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	''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). Simply by legal obligation one cannot be purified. You may enact thousands of rules and regulation and laws. You cannot purify the heart of the people. Here is the process to purify the heart of the people. Therefore they should be taken advantage of. Simply by saying that, "If you do this, then you'll be punished," nobody cares for that. Just like a child. The parents daily says: "My dear boy, don't do this. This is mischievous." But he does. Just like a dog, animal. Because the heart is not purified. The knowledge is not there. So this is the process for purifying the heart. ''Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). This is the process. So one should take advantage of this process, how to purify the mind, how to purify the heart. Then you will be a perfect personality, perfect man. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ''. So we don't say that "You change your profession, you change your position or occupation," no. Please come and hear. Please . . . if you don't chant, please hear. That hearing process also will cure you. ''Śravaṇam kīrtanam''. So people should come to our temple and hear this chanting, this . . . we are not taxing. We are not asking any . . . if you give some contribution, there is temple and management, there is expenditure, heavy expenditure, in this country. If you so kind . . . it is very kind of you. Even if you do not pay, you don't like, please come. Please come and hear. Please bring your friends if you are really friend. So it is very nice thing. ''Sthāne sthitaḥ śruti-gatāṁ tanu-vāṅ-manobhir''. You remain what you are. We don't say that you change, but you hear. ''Śruti-gatāṁ. Śruti'' means this ear. God has given you this nice thing. You just inject this transcendental vibration through this ear. And when you will, you purify yourself, then you'll know how to make your life successful by your occupation.		''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). Simply by legal obligation one cannot be purified. You may enact thousands of rules and regulation and laws. You cannot purify the heart of the people. Here is the process to purify the heart of the people. Therefore they should be taken advantage of. Simply by saying that, "If you do this, then you'll be punished," nobody cares for that. Just like a child. The parents daily says: "My dear boy, don't do this. This is mischievous." But he does. Just like a dog, animal. Because the heart is not purified. The knowledge is not there. So this is the process for purifying the heart. ''Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). This is the process. So one should take advantage of this process, how to purify the mind, how to purify the heart. Then you will be a perfect personality, perfect man. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ kṛṣṇaḥ''. So we don't say that "You change your profession, you change your position or occupation," no. Please come and hear. Please . . . if you don't chant, please hear. That hearing process also will cure you. ''Śravaṇam kīrtanam''. So people should come to our temple and hear this chanting, this . . . we are not taxing. We are not asking any . . . if you give some contribution, there is temple and management, there is expenditure, heavy expenditure, in this country. If you so kind . . . it is very kind of you. Even if you do not pay, you don't like, please come. Please come and hear. Please bring your friends if you are really friend. So it is very nice thing. ''Sthāne sthitaḥ śruti-gatāṁ tanu-vāṅ-manobhir''. You remain what you are. We don't say that you change, but you hear. ''Śruti-gatāṁ. Śruti'' means this ear. God has given you this nice thing. You just inject this transcendental vibration through this ear. And when you will, you purify yourself, then you'll know how to make your life successful by your occupation.

	''Sva-karmaṇā tam abhyarcya saṁsiddhiṁ labhate param'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). ''Saṁsiddhi. Saṁsiddhi'' means perfection. So even fifty years . . . not fifty. About sixty years before, in our childhood, or more than, sixty-five years before, when we were five, six years old, this system of hearing in the evening, in every village there was current. And my maternal uncle's house was in the suburb of Calcutta. So in our childhood, when we used to go to our maternal uncle's house, all the ladies and members being discussed. They will sit down. All the members of the neighboring people, they will come, very big crowd, and they will hear, and whatever they can pay, they will pay. And with that impression, at nine o'clock or ten o'clock, they will go to bed. Very nice arrangement. Usually the meeting was taking place after night, dinner, you see? Say, about at nine o'clock. And from nine to ten, eleven, the discussion would go on, and then the members dispersed and go to their respective home. We have seen. And all the ladies, whole road, they were discussing, "The priest told me . . ." They discussed very seriously to understand. So they don't require any education. Simply by hearing they become advanced. This is recommended. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ . . . ~~Śṛṇvatāṁ~~''. Just try to hear, hear, hear. Very nice process. So we are inviting people. We have got so much big space. Unfortunately, nobody is coming to hear. Mr. Khanvar? Why they do not come?		''Sva-karmaṇā tam abhyarcya saṁsiddhiṁ labhate param'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). ''Saṁsiddhi. Saṁsiddhi'' means perfection. So even fifty years . . . not fifty. About sixty years before, in our childhood, or more than, sixty-five years before, when we were five, six years old, this system of hearing in the evening, in every village there was current. And my maternal uncle's house was in the suburb of Calcutta. So in our childhood, when we used to go to our maternal uncle's house, all the ladies and members being discussed. They will sit down. All the members of the neighboring people, they will come, very big crowd, and they will hear, and whatever they can pay, they will pay. And with that impression, at nine o'clock or ten o'clock, they will go to bed. Very nice arrangement. Usually the meeting was taking place after night, dinner, you see? Say, about at nine o'clock. And from nine to ten, eleven, the discussion would go on, and then the members dispersed and go to their respective home. We have seen. And all the ladies, whole road, they were discussing, "The priest told me . . ." They discussed very seriously to understand. So they don't require any education. Simply by hearing they become advanced. This is recommended. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ . . . śṛṇvatāṁ''. Just try to hear, hear, hear. Very nice process. So we are inviting people. We have got so much big space. Unfortunately, nobody is coming to hear. Mr. Khanvar? Why they do not come?

	'''Mr. Khanvar:''' I don't know.		'''Mr. Khanvar:''' I don't know.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Expert means whatever he is doing, he must do it very nicely That's all. Suppose you are sweeping this room. You can do it very nicely, to your best knowledge. That is expert. The people will say, "Oh, you have very nicely done." Any work you do, do it very nicely. That is expert. Don't do it haphazardly. To your best talent, to your best capacity, try to finish it very nicely, whatever it may be. You are entrusted with some work. Do it nicely. That is expert. If you think that you are unable to do that work, then whatever work you can do, you take. But do it nicely. That is expert. Don't imitate. "Oh, I have no capacity to work in that way, but I want to imitate. Oh, he is doing that. I shall do that." Don't do that. That is not expert. You take up what you can do very nicely and do it nicely. We have so many works. Kṛṣṇa is not that He is static. He is dynamic force. Just like Arjuna, he was not a Vedantist, he was not a ''brāhmaṇa'', he was not a ''sannyāsī''. He was householder. He was military man. But he knew his business, how to do it nicely. So you do your business nicely. That is expert. And when it is dovetailed in Kṛṣṇa, there is no gradation that this business is better and that business is lower because everything is for Kṛṣṇa. So that business becomes Kṛṣṇa. Do it nicely and Kṛṣṇa is satisfied. And that is your success. ''Avyāpare suvyaparam yo naraḥ kartum icchati, sa-mulo hanyate 'khila pārthiva vānaraḥ''. Expert.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Expert means whatever he is doing, he must do it very nicely That's all. Suppose you are sweeping this room. You can do it very nicely, to your best knowledge. That is expert. The people will say, "Oh, you have very nicely done." Any work you do, do it very nicely. That is expert. Don't do it haphazardly. To your best talent, to your best capacity, try to finish it very nicely, whatever it may be. You are entrusted with some work. Do it nicely. That is expert. If you think that you are unable to do that work, then whatever work you can do, you take. But do it nicely. That is expert. Don't imitate. "Oh, I have no capacity to work in that way, but I want to imitate. Oh, he is doing that. I shall do that." Don't do that. That is not expert. You take up what you can do very nicely and do it nicely. We have so many works. Kṛṣṇa is not that He is static. He is dynamic force. Just like Arjuna, he was not a Vedantist, he was not a ''brāhmaṇa'', he was not a ''sannyāsī''. He was householder. He was military man. But he knew his business, how to do it nicely. So you do your business nicely. That is expert. And when it is dovetailed in Kṛṣṇa, there is no gradation that this business is better and that business is lower because everything is for Kṛṣṇa. So that business becomes Kṛṣṇa. Do it nicely and Kṛṣṇa is satisfied. And that is your success. ''Avyāpare suvyaparam yo naraḥ kartum icchati, sa-mulo hanyate 'khila pārthiva vānaraḥ''. Expert.

	There is a very nice story in Sanskrit. A monkey. A monkey . . . you might have some experience, that sawmen, who cut wood? Sawmen. So a sawman was cutting wood by the saw. So at the end of business it was half cut so he pulled down a, I mean to say, a plug so that next day he will come and he'll again begin sawing. So went away. So one monkey came. So monkey sat down there and began to pull on the plug because monkey's business is simply mischievous. So he did not know that his plough and some portion of his thigh was within the hole and when he took out this plug it was, (claps) I mean to say, clipped, and he could not get out and died. So the instruction is that . . . ''~~'Khila~~ pārthiva vānaraḥ, vyāpare suvyaparam. Avyāpara'' means a occupation, an occupation which is not fit for you. That is ''avyāpara. Avyāpara-suvyaparam''. And one occupation which is not exactly fitting you, you do not know how to do it, so ''avyāpare suvyaparam yo kartu ''. . . if one wants to act in a business in which he is unable to do, then he is killed just like this fool monkey. ''Avyāpare suvyaparam yo naraḥ kartum icchati, sa-mulo hanyate''. That foolish person is killed just like this monkey.		There is a very nice story in Sanskrit. A monkey. A monkey . . . you might have some experience, that sawmen, who cut wood? Sawmen. So a sawman was cutting wood by the saw. So at the end of business it was half cut so he pulled down a, I mean to say, a plug so that next day he will come and he'll again begin sawing. So went away. So one monkey came. So monkey sat down there and began to pull on the plug because monkey's business is simply mischievous. So he did not know that his plough and some portion of his thigh was within the hole and when he took out this plug it was, (claps) I mean to say, clipped, and he could not get out and died. So the instruction is that . . . ''khila pārthiva vānaraḥ, vyāpare suvyaparam. Avyāpara'' means a occupation, an occupation which is not fit for you. That is ''avyāpara. Avyāpara-suvyaparam''. And one occupation which is not exactly fitting you, you do not know how to do it, so ''avyāpare suvyaparam yo kartu ''. . . if one wants to act in a business in which he is unable to do, then he is killed just like this fool monkey. ''Avyāpare suvyaparam yo naraḥ kartum icchati, sa-mulo hanyate''. That foolish person is killed just like this monkey.

	The monkey's business was not to imitate the sawman, but he wanted to imitate. The result was that he was killed. So that is not expertness. Expertness is you just try to do which is easily performed by you. You don't accept anything heavy task because Kṛṣṇa does not want that you have to do this heavy task. Whatever you know, you just apply it. You dovetail it in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa does not say that you have to become like this, like that, like that, then you can serve Him. Does not say. Just like this cow. Just see. What does it know? He's an animal. You see? But the calf knows to brush his head and tongue like this, in love. It is doing and Kṛṣṇa accepting, "Yes." That is expert. First of all find out what is easily done by you. Don't take anything which is not easily done by you. You find out what is your occupation, what you can very nicely and easily perform, and do it for Kṛṣṇa. That's all. Is that clear? Expert? This is expert. Expert does not mean that I do not know how to drive motor car, and I will have to imitate somebody, "Oh, I shall become driver." Why? If you do not know driving, why should you attempt driving? Whatever you know, you just try it, that business, and try to satisfy Kṛṣṇa. If you know driving, that's all right. But don't take . . . my Guru Mahārāja explained that you haven't got to learn anything extra for Kṛṣṇa's service.		The monkey's business was not to imitate the sawman, but he wanted to imitate. The result was that he was killed. So that is not expertness. Expertness is you just try to do which is easily performed by you. You don't accept anything heavy task because Kṛṣṇa does not want that you have to do this heavy task. Whatever you know, you just apply it. You dovetail it in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Kṛṣṇa does not say that you have to become like this, like that, like that, then you can serve Him. Does not say. Just like this cow. Just see. What does it know? He's an animal. You see? But the calf knows to brush his head and tongue like this, in love. It is doing and Kṛṣṇa accepting, "Yes." That is expert. First of all find out what is easily done by you. Don't take anything which is not easily done by you. You find out what is your occupation, what you can very nicely and easily perform, and do it for Kṛṣṇa. That's all. Is that clear? Expert? This is expert. Expert does not mean that I do not know how to drive motor car, and I will have to imitate somebody, "Oh, I shall become driver." Why? If you do not know driving, why should you attempt driving? Whatever you know, you just try it, that business, and try to satisfy Kṛṣṇa. If you know driving, that's all right. But don't take . . . my Guru Mahārāja explained that you haven't got to learn anything extra for Kṛṣṇa's service.

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	So there is a potter class, who flourish. They sell their products. Just like in your country also, so many things are thrown away so that the manufacturer get chance to sell again. So everyone has got a particular type of profession. The potter, the washerman, and the florist, the grain dealer, the silver or gold dealer, the banker, and . . . everything. And the priest, and the warrior. So even in India still, there is no difficulty for draftboard. There is a class, kṣatriya; they will be very glad to be recruited as soldier. They are very strong. Jat. They are called jat, Gurkha. They don't like any other occupation. Fighting they like. The Sikhs. The Sikhs they are jat class, and the Gurkha, oh, the whole British Empire was extended with the help of the Sikhs and the Gurkhas. The Britishers took these Gurkhas and the Sikhs to Burma, to Messopotamia. They liquidated the Empire because they lost India. The British soldiers were not helping to keep up their Empire. These Indians soldiers. In the first war they gained for these Indian soldiers. They fought in France and everywhere very nicely. They are fighter class. They like to fight. And fighting is not going every day. So the arrangement was . . . just like you have to fight for the state. So there is no monthly salary system. You are awarded by the government a certain tract of land free. You produce grains and utilize the land; no tax for you. But when there will be war, you shall fight. Very nice arrangement. Similarly, in temple, the florist has to supply flowers daily. Mr. Khanvar, am I right? You know this Indian system?		So there is a potter class, who flourish. They sell their products. Just like in your country also, so many things are thrown away so that the manufacturer get chance to sell again. So everyone has got a particular type of profession. The potter, the washerman, and the florist, the grain dealer, the silver or gold dealer, the banker, and . . . everything. And the priest, and the warrior. So even in India still, there is no difficulty for draftboard. There is a class, kṣatriya; they will be very glad to be recruited as soldier. They are very strong. Jat. They are called jat, Gurkha. They don't like any other occupation. Fighting they like. The Sikhs. The Sikhs they are jat class, and the Gurkha, oh, the whole British Empire was extended with the help of the Sikhs and the Gurkhas. The Britishers took these Gurkhas and the Sikhs to Burma, to Messopotamia. They liquidated the Empire because they lost India. The British soldiers were not helping to keep up their Empire. These Indians soldiers. In the first war they gained for these Indian soldiers. They fought in France and everywhere very nicely. They are fighter class. They like to fight. And fighting is not going every day. So the arrangement was . . . just like you have to fight for the state. So there is no monthly salary system. You are awarded by the government a certain tract of land free. You produce grains and utilize the land; no tax for you. But when there will be war, you shall fight. Very nice arrangement. Similarly, in temple, the florist has to supply flowers daily. Mr. Khanvar, am I right? You know this Indian system?

	Mr. Khanvar: Yes.		'''Mr. Khanvar:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So the florist is given a certain tract of land free, and let him produce flower and make business. But the quantity of flower I require for my temple, he must supply daily. Similarly, the bandsman, he should come and play band. Everything was on land distribution. That was the system. And tax was paid to the government. Not by assessment. Uh, assessment . . . whatever your land production is there, you give to the government one-fourth. That's all. If you have produced 1,000 mound grains, you have to give to the government 250 mounds. And if you have produced 100, then you give 25. So there is no question of harassment. Whatever is the production is there . . . so these profession is accepted from Vedic time, different kinds of men engaged in different kinds of activities. Maybe a florist, maybe a potter, maybe a cobbler, maybe anything, grain producer . . . so many, society requires so many things. So according to Vedic system, there is a class, and ''Bhāgavata'' says that, "You are engaged in your occupational duty; so whether you are getting success by such occupational duty?" The Vedic system does not condemn anyone. "You are a potter. Oh, you are lower." No. You are as good as a priest because you are doing your duty. That's all right. Never condemns. This is development of later age when the so-called ''brāhmaṇas'' became, I mean to say, treacherous. They began to condemn so-called lower class. There was disruption, the whole social system. But in the beginning it was not. So they have got respectable terms. Just like a ''brāhmaṇa'' is addressed as ''paṇḍita mahārāja''. A ''kṣatriya'' is addressed ''ṭhākura saheb, ṭhākur''. And a merchant is addressed: ''sethji''. And the laborer class addressed as ''choudhari'', means leader. In this way everyone has got respectable position. Why? Because the test of their success was one, Viṣṇu.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So the florist is given a certain tract of land free, and let him produce flower and make business. But the quantity of flower I require for my temple, he must supply daily. Similarly, the bandsman, he should come and play band. Everything was on land distribution. That was the system. And tax was paid to the government. Not by assessment. Uh, assessment . . . whatever your land production is there, you give to the government one-fourth. That's all. If you have produced 1,000 mound grains, you have to give to the government 250 mounds. And if you have produced 100, then you give 25. So there is no question of harassment. Whatever is the production is there . . . so these profession is accepted from Vedic time, different kinds of men engaged in different kinds of activities. Maybe a florist, maybe a potter, maybe a cobbler, maybe anything, grain producer . . . so many, society requires so many things. So according to Vedic system, there is a class, and ''Bhāgavata'' says that, "You are engaged in your occupational duty; so whether you are getting success by such occupational duty?" The Vedic system does not condemn anyone. "You are a potter. Oh, you are lower." No. You are as good as a priest because you are doing your duty. That's all right. Never condemns. This is development of later age when the so-called ''brāhmaṇas'' became, I mean to say, treacherous. They began to condemn so-called lower class. There was disruption, the whole social system. But in the beginning it was not. So they have got respectable terms. Just like a ''brāhmaṇa'' is addressed as ''paṇḍita mahārāja''. A ''kṣatriya'' is addressed ''ṭhākura saheb, ṭhākur''. And a merchant is addressed: ''sethji''. And the laborer class addressed as ''choudhari'', means leader. In this way everyone has got respectable position. Why? Because the test of their success was one, Viṣṇu.
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	''Sva-karmaṇā tam abhyarcya saṁsiddhiṁ labhate param'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). ''Saṁsiddhi. Saṁsiddhi'' means perfection. So even fifty years . . . not fifty. About sixty years before, in our childhood, or more than, sixty-five years before, when we were five, six years old, this system of hearing in the evening, in every village there was current. And my maternal uncle's house was in the suburb of Calcutta. So in our childhood, when we used to go to our maternal uncle's house, all the ladies and members being discussed. They will sit down. All the members of the neighboring people, they will come, very big crowd, and they will hear, and whatever they can pay, they will pay. And with that impression, at nine o'clock or ten o'clock, they will go to bed. Very nice arrangement. Usually the meeting was taking place after night, dinner, you see? Say, about at nine o'clock. And from nine to ten, eleven, the discussion would go on, and then the members dispersed and go to their respective home. We have seen. And all the ladies, whole road, they were discussing, "The priest told me . . ." They discussed very seriously to understand. So they don't require any education. Simply by hearing they become advanced. This is recommended. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ . . . Śṛṇvatāṁ''. Just try to hear, hear, hear. Very nice process. So we are inviting people. We have got so much big space. Unfortunately, nobody is coming to hear. Mr. Khanvar? Why they do not come?		''Sva-karmaṇā tam abhyarcya saṁsiddhiṁ labhate param'' ([[SB 1.2.13]]). ''Saṁsiddhi. Saṁsiddhi'' means perfection. So even fifty years . . . not fifty. About sixty years before, in our childhood, or more than, sixty-five years before, when we were five, six years old, this system of hearing in the evening, in every village there was current. And my maternal uncle's house was in the suburb of Calcutta. So in our childhood, when we used to go to our maternal uncle's house, all the ladies and members being discussed. They will sit down. All the members of the neighboring people, they will come, very big crowd, and they will hear, and whatever they can pay, they will pay. And with that impression, at nine o'clock or ten o'clock, they will go to bed. Very nice arrangement. Usually the meeting was taking place after night, dinner, you see? Say, about at nine o'clock. And from nine to ten, eleven, the discussion would go on, and then the members dispersed and go to their respective home. We have seen. And all the ladies, whole road, they were discussing, "The priest told me . . ." They discussed very seriously to understand. So they don't require any education. Simply by hearing they become advanced. This is recommended. ''Śṛṇvatāṁ sva-kathāḥ . . . Śṛṇvatāṁ''. Just try to hear, hear, hear. Very nice process. So we are inviting people. We have got so much big space. Unfortunately, nobody is coming to hear. Mr. Khanvar? Why they do not come?

	Mr. Khanvar: I don't know.		'''Mr. Khanvar:''' I don't know.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' (laughs) No, can you guess any reason?		'''Prabhupāda:''' (laughs) No, can you guess any reason?

	Mr. Khanvar: Many people don't know about temple. Many people are not aware of the temple.		'''Mr. Khanvar:''' Many people don't know about temple. Many people are not aware of the temple.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Well, these are . . . so many people came on that day. At least, they know. They have no interest. That is the thing. That this life is meant for perfection in self-realization or Kṛṣṇa consciousness, their dull brain does not allow to understand this fact. Therefore I was explaining last night, ''su-medhasaḥ'' good brain substance. So people are becoming dull, and talking all nonsense. They are interested with so many nonsense things. Just like yesterday that gentleman came. You were present?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Well, these are . . . so many people came on that day. At least, they know. They have no interest. That is the thing. That this life is meant for perfection in self-realization or Kṛṣṇa consciousness, their dull brain does not allow to understand this fact. Therefore I was explaining last night, ''su-medhasaḥ'' good brain substance. So people are becoming dull, and talking all nonsense. They are interested with so many nonsense things. Just like yesterday that gentleman came. You were present?

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