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	So Lord Caitanya teaches that if you want to be subordinate or if you want to worship somebody . . . who worships somebody? Unless you feel somebody is greater than you, why shall you worship? I worship my boss because I think that he is greater than me. He gives me wages, salary, monthly six hundred dollars. Therefore I must worship him, I must please him.		So Lord Caitanya teaches that if you want to be subordinate or if you want to worship somebody . . . who worships somebody? Unless you feel somebody is greater than you, why shall you worship? I worship my boss because I think that he is greater than me. He gives me wages, salary, monthly six hundred dollars. Therefore I must worship him, I must please him.

	So Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that you become a subordinate of Kṛṣṇa. ''Ārādhyo bhagavān vrajeśa-tanayaḥ'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		So Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that you become a subordinate of Kṛṣṇa. ''Ārādhyo bhagavān vrajeśa-tanayaḥ'' (Caitanya-maṣjusā).

	If you want to worship, worship Kṛṣṇa. And next? ''Tad-dhāmaṁ vṛndāvanam''. If you want to worship somebody, then love Kṛṣṇa or worship Kṛṣṇa or His place, Vṛndāvana. Because everyone wants to love some place. That is now nationalism—some country. Somebody says, "I love this American land." Somebody says: "I love this Chinese land." Somebody says: "I love the Russian land." So everyone wants to love some land. ''Bhauma ijya-dhīḥ. Bhauma ijya-dhīḥ'' ([[SB 10.84.13]]).		If you want to worship, worship Kṛṣṇa. And next? ''Tad-dhāmaṁ vṛndāvanam''. If you want to worship somebody, then love Kṛṣṇa or worship Kṛṣṇa or His place, Vṛndāvana. Because everyone wants to love some place. That is now nationalism—some country. Somebody says, "I love this American land." Somebody says: "I love this Chinese land." Somebody says: "I love the Russian land." So everyone wants to love some land. ''Bhauma ijya-dhīḥ. Bhauma ijya-dhīḥ'' ([[SB 10.84.13]]).
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	People are naturally inclined to love some material land. Generally, where he is born he tries to love.		People are naturally inclined to love some material land. Generally, where he is born he tries to love.

	So Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that, "Because you are inclined to love some person, you love Kṛṣṇa. Because you want to love some land, you love Vṛndāvana." ''Ārādhyo bhagavān vrajeśa-tanayas tad-dhāma vṛndāvanam'' (from Śrīnātha Cakravartī's commentary on ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''). But if somebody says, "How to love Kṛṣṇa? I cannot see Kṛṣṇa. How to love Kṛṣṇa?" then Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		So Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that, "Because you are inclined to love some person, you love Kṛṣṇa. Because you want to love some land, you love Vṛndāvana." ''Ārādhyo bhagavān vrajeśa-tanayas tad-dhāma vṛndāvanam'' (from Śrīnātha Cakravartī's commentary on ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''). But if somebody says, "How to love Kṛṣṇa? I cannot see Kṛṣṇa. How to love Kṛṣṇa?" then Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā'' (Caitanya-maṣjusā).

	If you want to learn, if you want to know the process of worshiping Kṛṣṇa, or loving Kṛṣṇa, just try to follow the footprints of the ''gopīs. Gopīs''. The gopīs, their love, the highest perfectional love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā''.		If you want to learn, if you want to know the process of worshiping Kṛṣṇa, or loving Kṛṣṇa, just try to follow the footprints of the ''gopīs. Gopīs''. The gopīs, their love, the highest perfectional love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā''.
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	There are injunction. ''Proṣita bhartṛkā''. There are different dresses of woman. By seeing the dress one will understand what she is. One can understand by seeing the dress that she is unmarried girl. One can see simply by the dress that she is married wife. One can see by the dress that she is widow. One can see by the dress that she is prostitute. So dress is so important. So ''proṣita bhartṛkā''.		There are injunction. ''Proṣita bhartṛkā''. There are different dresses of woman. By seeing the dress one will understand what she is. One can understand by seeing the dress that she is unmarried girl. One can see simply by the dress that she is married wife. One can see by the dress that she is widow. One can see by the dress that she is prostitute. So dress is so important. So ''proṣita bhartṛkā''.

	So we are not going to discuss about the social; we are discussing about love affairs of Kṛṣṇa. So gopīs . . . Kṛṣṇa and ''gopī'', the relationship was so intimate and so unalloyed that Kṛṣṇa Himself admitted, "My dear gopīs, it is not in My power to repay you about your loving affairs." Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He became bankrupt, that "My dear gopīs, it is not possible for Me to repay your debts which you have created by loving Me." So that is the highest perfection of love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		So we are not going to discuss about the social; we are discussing about love affairs of Kṛṣṇa. So gopīs . . . Kṛṣṇa and ''gopī'', the relationship was so intimate and so unalloyed that Kṛṣṇa Himself admitted, "My dear gopīs, it is not in My power to repay you about your loving affairs." Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He became bankrupt, that "My dear gopīs, it is not possible for Me to repay your debts which you have created by loving Me." So that is the highest perfection of love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū'' (Caitanya-maṣjusā).

	I'm just describing the mission of Lord Caitanya. He is giving us instruction, His mission, that the only lovable object is Kṛṣṇa and His land Vṛndāvana. And the process of loving Him is the vivid example, the gopīs. Nobody can reach. There are different stages of devotees, and gopīs are supposed to be on the highest platform. And amongst the gopīs, the supreme is Rādhārāṇī. Therefore nobody can surpass the love of Rādhārāṇī. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā, śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		I'm just describing the mission of Lord Caitanya. He is giving us instruction, His mission, that the only lovable object is Kṛṣṇa and His land Vṛndāvana. And the process of loving Him is the vivid example, the gopīs. Nobody can reach. There are different stages of devotees, and gopīs are supposed to be on the highest platform. And amongst the gopīs, the supreme is Rādhārāṇī. Therefore nobody can surpass the love of Rādhārāṇī. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā, śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam'' (Caitanya-maṣjusā).

	Now to learn this, all this science of loving God, there must be some book, some authoritative literature. Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam''. The ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', it is spotless description of understanding how to love God. There is no other description. From the beginning it is teaching how to love God. Those who have studied ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', the first verse in the First Canto is, ''janmādy asya yataḥ, satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi'' ([[SB 1.1.1]]).		Now to learn this, all this science of loving God, there must be some book, some authoritative literature. Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam''. The ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', it is spotless description of understanding how to love God. There is no other description. From the beginning it is teaching how to love God. Those who have studied ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', the first verse in the First Canto is, ''janmādy asya yataḥ, satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi'' ([[SB 1.1.1]]).

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	So Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that, "Because you are inclined to love some person, you love Kṛṣṇa. Because you want to love some land, you love Vṛndāvana." ''Ārādhyo bhagavān vrajeśa-tanayas tad-dhāma vṛndāvanam'' (from Śrīnātha Cakravartī's commentary on ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''). But if somebody says, "How to love Kṛṣṇa? I cannot see Kṛṣṇa. How to love Kṛṣṇa?" then Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		So Caitanya Mahāprabhu says that, "Because you are inclined to love some person, you love Kṛṣṇa. Because you want to love some land, you love Vṛndāvana." ''Ārādhyo bhagavān vrajeśa-tanayas tad-dhāma vṛndāvanam'' (from Śrīnātha Cakravartī's commentary on ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''). But if somebody says, "How to love Kṛṣṇa? I cannot see Kṛṣṇa. How to love Kṛṣṇa?" then Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').

	If you want to learn, if you want to know the process of worshiping Kṛṣṇa, or loving Kṛṣṇa, just try to follow the footprints of the ''gopīs. Gopīs''. The ''gopīs'', their love, the highest perfectional love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā''.		If you want to learn, if you want to know the process of worshiping Kṛṣṇa, or loving Kṛṣṇa, just try to follow the footprints of the ''gopīs. Gopīs''. The gopīs, their love, the highest perfectional love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā''.

	There are different kinds of love, or worship, in the world. The beginning is, "O God, give us our daily bread." This is beginning. When we are, I mean to say, taught to love God, we are instructed that "You go to temple, go to church, and pray to God for your necessities, for your grievances." That is the beginning. But that is not pure love. Pure love, perfection of pure love, can be found amongst the ''gopīs''. That is the example.		There are different kinds of love, or worship, in the world. The beginning is, "O God, give us our daily bread." This is beginning. When we are, I mean to say, taught to love God, we are instructed that "You go to temple, go to church, and pray to God for your necessities, for your grievances." That is the beginning. But that is not pure love. Pure love, perfection of pure love, can be found amongst the gopīs. That is the example.

	How? How they love Kṛṣṇa? They love Kṛṣṇa . . . Kṛṣṇa went to . . . Kṛṣṇa was a cowherd's boy, and with His friends, other cowherd's boy, He used to go with His cows in the pasturing ground the whole day. That was the system. Because people at that time were satisfied with land and cows. That's all. That is the means of solution of all economic problems. They were not industrial; they were not servant of anyone. Simply get production from the land and take milk from the cows, the whole food problem solved.		How? How they love Kṛṣṇa? They love Kṛṣṇa . . . Kṛṣṇa went to . . . Kṛṣṇa was a cowherd's boy, and with His friends, other cowherd's boy, He used to go with His cows in the pasturing ground the whole day. That was the system. Because people at that time were satisfied with land and cows. That's all. That is the means of solution of all economic problems. They were not industrial; they were not servant of anyone. Simply get production from the land and take milk from the cows, the whole food problem solved.

	So Kṛṣṇa used to go to the pasturing ground, and the ''gopīs'' at home . . . they were girls or women. They . . . women or girls were not allowed to work. That is the Vedic system. They should keep at home, and they should be given protection by the father, by the husband or elderly sons. They were not meant for going out.		So Kṛṣṇa used to go to the pasturing ground, and the gopīs at home . . . they were girls or women. They . . . women or girls were not allowed to work. That is the Vedic system. They should keep at home, and they should be given protection by the father, by the husband or elderly sons. They were not meant for going out.

	So they kept themselves at home. But Kṛṣṇa was, say, miles away in the pasturing ground, and the ''gopīs'' at home thinking, "Oh, Kṛṣṇa's feet is so soft. Now He's walking on the rough grounds. The particles of stones are pricking His sole. So He must be feeling some pain." In this way thinking, they used to cry. Just see.		So they kept themselves at home. But Kṛṣṇa was, say, miles away in the pasturing ground, and the gopīs at home thinking, "Oh, Kṛṣṇa's feet is so soft. Now He's walking on the rough grounds. The particles of stones are pricking His sole. So He must be feeling some pain." In this way thinking, they used to cry. Just see.

	Kṛṣṇa is miles away, and what Kṛṣṇa is feeling, they are simply thinking of that feeling, "Kṛṣṇa may be feeling like that." This is love. This is love. They are not asking Kṛṣṇa, "My dear Kṛṣṇa, what You have brought from Your pasturing ground? How is Your pocket? Let me see." No. Simply thinking of Kṛṣṇa, how Kṛṣṇa will be satisfied.		Kṛṣṇa is miles away, and what Kṛṣṇa is feeling, they are simply thinking of that feeling, "Kṛṣṇa may be feeling like that." This is love. This is love. They are not asking Kṛṣṇa, "My dear Kṛṣṇa, what You have brought from Your pasturing ground? How is Your pocket? Let me see." No. Simply thinking of Kṛṣṇa, how Kṛṣṇa will be satisfied.
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	There are injunction. ''Proṣita bhartṛkā''. There are different dresses of woman. By seeing the dress one will understand what she is. One can understand by seeing the dress that she is unmarried girl. One can see simply by the dress that she is married wife. One can see by the dress that she is widow. One can see by the dress that she is prostitute. So dress is so important. So ''proṣita bhartṛkā''.		There are injunction. ''Proṣita bhartṛkā''. There are different dresses of woman. By seeing the dress one will understand what she is. One can understand by seeing the dress that she is unmarried girl. One can see simply by the dress that she is married wife. One can see by the dress that she is widow. One can see by the dress that she is prostitute. So dress is so important. So ''proṣita bhartṛkā''.

	So we are not going to discuss about the social; we are discussing about love affairs of Kṛṣṇa. So ''gopīs'' . . . Kṛṣṇa and ''gopī'', the relationship was so intimate and so unalloyed that Kṛṣṇa Himself admitted, "My dear ''gopīs'', it is not in My power to repay you about your loving affairs." Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He became bankrupt, that "My dear ''gopīs'', it is not possible for Me to repay your debts which you have created by loving Me." So that is the highest perfection of love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		So we are not going to discuss about the social; we are discussing about love affairs of Kṛṣṇa. So gopīs . . . Kṛṣṇa and ''gopī'', the relationship was so intimate and so unalloyed that Kṛṣṇa Himself admitted, "My dear gopīs, it is not in My power to repay you about your loving affairs." Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He became bankrupt, that "My dear gopīs, it is not possible for Me to repay your debts which you have created by loving Me." So that is the highest perfection of love. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').

	I'm just describing the mission of Lord Caitanya. He is giving us instruction, His mission, that the only lovable object is Kṛṣṇa and His land Vṛndāvana. And the process of loving Him is the vivid example, the ''gopīs''. Nobody can reach. There are different stages of devotees, and ''gopīs'' are supposed to be on the highest platform. And amongst the ''gopīs'', the supreme is Rādhārāṇī. Therefore nobody can surpass the love of Rādhārāṇī. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā, śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').		I'm just describing the mission of Lord Caitanya. He is giving us instruction, His mission, that the only lovable object is Kṛṣṇa and His land Vṛndāvana. And the process of loving Him is the vivid example, the gopīs. Nobody can reach. There are different stages of devotees, and gopīs are supposed to be on the highest platform. And amongst the gopīs, the supreme is Rādhārāṇī. Therefore nobody can surpass the love of Rādhārāṇī. ''Ramyā kācid upāsanā vraja-vadhū-vargeṇa yā kalpitā, śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam'' (''Caitanya-maṣjusā'').

	Now to learn this, all this science of loving God, there must be some book, some authoritative literature. Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam''. The ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', it is spotless description of understanding how to love God. There is no other description. From the beginning it is teaching how to love God. Those who have studied ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', the first verse in the First Canto is, ''janmādy asya yataḥ, satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi'' ([[SB 1.1.1]]).		Now to learn this, all this science of loving God, there must be some book, some authoritative literature. Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu says, ''śrīmad-bhāgavatam amalaṁ purāṇam''. The ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', it is spotless description of understanding how to love God. There is no other description. From the beginning it is teaching how to love God. Those who have studied ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', the first verse in the First Canto is, ''janmādy asya yataḥ, satyaṁ paraṁ dhīmahi'' ([[SB 1.1.1]]).

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. In the absolute platform everything is identical. In the relative world also. Just like anything you take, it is material. So material identity. Similarly, in the spiritual world everything is spiritual. So in the spiritual world God and God's son or God's friend or God's lover, anyone is the . . . they're in the same platform, spiritual. Therefore they are identical.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. In the absolute platform everything is identical. In the relative world also. Just like anything you take, it is material. So material identity. Similarly, in the spiritual world everything is spiritual. So in the spiritual world God and God's son or God's friend or God's lover, anyone is the . . . they're in the same platform, spiritual. Therefore they are identical.

	Lady guest (2): But doesn't Rāma refer to a man that was born . . . I'm not sure . . . India or something, and Christ was born in Europe? Two different men, but still the same, the same . . .		'''Lady guest (2):''' But doesn't Rāma refer to a man that was born . . . I'm not sure . . . India or something, and Christ was born in Europe? Two different men, but still the same, the same . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The sun is every day born in India, born in Europe, born in America. Does it mean that he's Indian or American or Chinese?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The sun is every day born in India, born in Europe, born in America. Does it mean that he's Indian or American or Chinese?

	Lady guest (2): No, that's not what I mean.		'''Lady guest (2):''' No, that's not what I mean.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Then? Therefore it is like that. When . . . this is our limited knowledge. We have been taught in that way. But "God is great." Just like the sun is great, therefore even the sun is seen in India or in America or China, anywhere, any part of the world, any part of the universe, the sun is one. Nobody can say: "Oh, it is American sun" or "It is Indian sun."		'''Prabhupāda:''' Then? Therefore it is like that. When . . . this is our limited knowledge. We have been taught in that way. But "God is great." Just like the sun is great, therefore even the sun is seen in India or in America or China, anywhere, any part of the world, any part of the universe, the sun is one. Nobody can say: "Oh, it is American sun" or "It is Indian sun."

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