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	'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our relatives, long, long ago, he happened to be, as my grandmother . . . my cousin's, oh, grandfather. He went to England in those old days, and he became a . . . (indistinct) . . . doctor, very . . . when he came home, the brahmins prescribed that, "You went to England, so you have to make this prāyaścitta and this and so many prescription, and unless you follow the prāyaścitta (atonement) you cannot live at home. Then your family will be extricated." So when these things were presented to him he said, "Then I am going out of home." His mother and father, everyone requested, <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">"Beta, tumko ye karna padhega." "To wo bolta hai jo hum fir ghar se jata hai." Wo ghar se nikal gaya aur Christian hogaya . . . ye jitna Christian, Muhammedan hua hai isliye . . . (indistinct) . . . ye itna Christian, Muhammedan kya bahar se aya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">("Son, you will have to do this." Then he says, "So I am leaving home." Then he left and became a Christian and . . . all these Christians and Mohammedans are because of this . . . (indistinct) . . . so many Christians and Mohammedans, you think they have come from outside?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our relatives, long, long ago, he happened to be, as my grandmother . . . my cousin's, oh, grandfather. He went to England in those old days, and he became a . . . (indistinct) . . . doctor, very . . . when he came home, the brahmins prescribed that, "You went to England, so you have to make this prāyaścitta and this and so many prescription, and unless you follow the prāyaścitta (atonement) you cannot live at home. Then your family will be extricated." So when these things were presented to him he said, "Then I am going out of home." His mother and father, everyone requested, <span style="color:#ec710e">"Beta, tumko ye karna padhega." "To wo bolta hai jo hum fir ghar se jata hai." Wo ghar se nikal gaya aur Christian hogaya . . . ye jitna Christian, Muhammedan hua hai isliye . . . (indistinct) . . . ye itna Christian, Muhammedan kya bahar se aya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">("Son, you will have to do this." Then he says, "So I am leaving home." Then he left and became a Christian and . . . all these Christians and Mohammedans are because of this . . . (indistinct) . . . so many Christians and Mohammedans, you think they have come from outside?)</span>

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	To become ''sādhu'' and to become a Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. These idle questions, why they publish? I do not know. This is idle question. It never becomes. Lord Kṛṣṇa personally says that, "You simply surrender unto Me." How many have surrendered till now? Lord Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' that "You give up everything and surrender unto Me." ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]) So how many have done that?		To become ''sādhu'' and to become a Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. These idle questions, why they publish? I do not know. This is idle question. It never becomes. Lord Kṛṣṇa personally says that, "You simply surrender unto Me." How many have surrendered till now? Lord Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' that "You give up everything and surrender unto Me." ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]) So how many have done that?

	So this is a rascal question, "If everyone surrenders, then what will happen to the world?" But that will never happen. It is very difficult to surrender. That he does not know . . . <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Samajh me aya? Bhai jab Bhagavan ka baat nahi sunta hai to humara baat kaun sunega?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Have you understood? Well, when they don't listen to God then who is going to listen to us?)</span> It is not expected that everyone become sādhu. To become sādhu is not so easy thing, especially this nature of sādhu, pure. How many are there? We have given the prescription that, "Give up this, give up this." How many have given up this? So that is not possible, but still, these nonsense questions are raised.		So this is a rascal question, "If everyone surrenders, then what will happen to the world?" But that will never happen. It is very difficult to surrender. That he does not know . . . <span style="color:#ec710e">Samajh me aya? Bhai jab Bhagavan ka baat nahi sunta hai to humara baat kaun sunega?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Have you understood? Well, when they don't listen to God then who is going to listen to us?)</span> It is not expected that everyone become sādhu. To become sādhu is not so easy thing, especially this nature of sādhu, pure. How many are there? We have given the prescription that, "Give up this, give up this." How many have given up this? So that is not possible, but still, these nonsense questions are raised.

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' I go on?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' I go on?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Not for helping the politicians who are very much eager to join Pakistan. Our joining is different. Even in India we have got so many enemies like this who are criticizing Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So there are rascals everywhere, either in Pakistan or India. So we are not satisfy the rascals. We are meant for intelligent persons." Write that, like that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Not for helping the politicians who are very much eager to join Pakistan. Our joining is different. Even in India we have got so many enemies like this who are criticizing Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So there are rascals everywhere, either in Pakistan or India. So we are not satisfy the rascals. We are meant for intelligent persons." Write that, like that.

	'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Wo to . . . (indistinct) . . . me hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That is there in . . . (indistinct) . . . is in.)</span>		'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Wo to . . . (indistinct) . . . me hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That is there in . . . (indistinct) . . . is in.)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Then anything more?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Then anything more?

	'''Haṁsadūta:'' I think that's it. Oh . . . (break) (end)		'''Haṁsadūta:'' I think that's it. Oh . . . (break) (end)

RasaRasika at 03:27, 7 February 2024

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Not for helping the politicians who are very much eager to join Pakistan. Our joining is different. Even in India we have got so many enemies like this who are criticizing Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So there are rascals everywhere, either in Pakistan or India. So we are not satisfy the rascals. We are meant for intelligent persons." Write that, like that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Not for helping the politicians who are very much eager to join Pakistan. Our joining is different. Even in India we have got so many enemies like this who are criticizing Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So there are rascals everywhere, either in Pakistan or India. So we are not satisfy the rascals. We are meant for intelligent persons." Write that, like that.

	'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo to . . . (indistinct) . . . me hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That is there in . . . (indistinct) . . .)</span>		'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo to . . . (indistinct) . . . me hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That is there in . . . (indistinct) . . . is in.)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Then anything more?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Then anything more?

	'''Haṁsadūta:'' I think that's it. Oh . . . (break) (end)		'''Haṁsadūta:'' I think that's it. Oh . . . (break) (end)

RasaRasika at 02:27, 14 October 2023

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our relatives, long, long ago, he happened to be, as my grandmother . . . my cousin's, oh, grandfather. He went to England in those old days, and he became a . . . (indistinct) . . . doctor, very . . . when he came home, the brahmins prescribed that, "You went to England, so you have to make this prāyaścitta and this and so many prescription, and unless you follow the prāyaścitta (atonement) you cannot live at home. Then your family will be extricated." So when these things were presented to him he said, "Then I am going out of home." His mother and father, everyone requested, <span style="color:#ff9933">"Beta, tumko ye karna padhega." "To wo bolta hai jo hum fir ghar se jata hai." Wo ghar se nikal gaya aur Christian hogaya . . . ye jitna Christian, Muhammedan hua hai isliye . . . (indistinct) . . . ye itna Christian, Muhammedan kya bahar se aya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">("Son, you will have to do this." Then he says, "so I am leaving home." Then he left and became Christian and . . . all these Christians and ~~Muhammedans~~ are because of this . . . (indistinct) . . . so many Christians and ~~Muhammedans~~, you think they have come from outside.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our relatives, long, long ago, he happened to be, as my grandmother . . . my cousin's, oh, grandfather. He went to England in those old days, and he became a . . . (indistinct) . . . doctor, very . . . when he came home, the brahmins prescribed that, "You went to England, so you have to make this prāyaścitta and this and so many prescription, and unless you follow the prāyaścitta (atonement) you cannot live at home. Then your family will be extricated." So when these things were presented to him he said, "Then I am going out of home." His mother and father, everyone requested, <span style="color:#ff9933">"Beta, tumko ye karna padhega." "To wo bolta hai jo hum fir ghar se jata hai." Wo ghar se nikal gaya aur Christian hogaya . . . ye jitna Christian, Muhammedan hua hai isliye . . . (indistinct) . . . ye itna Christian, Muhammedan kya bahar se aya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">("Son, you will have to do this." Then he says, "So I am leaving home." Then he left and became a Christian and . . . all these Christians and Mohammedans are because of this . . . (indistinct) . . . so many Christians and Mohammedans, you think they have come from outside?)</span>

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Payal at 20:53, 13 October 2023

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Not for helping the politicians who are very much eager to join Pakistan. Our joining is different. Even in India we have got so many enemies like this who are criticizing Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So there are rascals everywhere, either in Pakistan or India. So we are not satisfy the rascals. We are meant for intelligent persons." Write that, like that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Not for helping the politicians who are very much eager to join Pakistan. Our joining is different. Even in India we have got so many enemies like this who are criticizing Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. So there are rascals everywhere, either in Pakistan or India. So we are not satisfy the rascals. We are meant for intelligent persons." Write that, like that.

	'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo to . . . (indistinct) . . . ~~nahi tha~~.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That ~~was not~~ . . . (indistinct) . . ~~. not that~~.)</span>		'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo to . . . (indistinct) . . . me hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That is there in . . . (indistinct) . . .)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Then anything more?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Then anything more?

	'''Haṁsadūta:'' I think that's it. Oh . . . (break) (end)		'''Haṁsadūta:'' I think that's it. Oh . . . (break) (end)

Payal at 20:51, 13 October 2023

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	To become ''sādhu'' and to become a Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. These idle questions, why they publish? I do not know. This is idle question. It never becomes. Lord Kṛṣṇa personally says that, "You simply surrender unto Me." How many have surrendered till now? Lord Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' that "You give up everything and surrender unto Me." ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]) So how many have done that?		To become ''sādhu'' and to become a Vaiṣṇava is not so easy thing. These idle questions, why they publish? I do not know. This is idle question. It never becomes. Lord Kṛṣṇa personally says that, "You simply surrender unto Me." How many have surrendered till now? Lord Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' that "You give up everything and surrender unto Me." ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]) So how many have done that?

	So this is a rascal question, "If everyone surrenders, then what will happen to the world?" But that will never happen. It is very difficult to surrender. That he does not know . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">Samajh me aya? Bhai jab Bhagavan ka baat nahi sunta hai to humara baat kaun sunega?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Have you understood? Well, when they don't listen to God then who is going to listen to me?)</span> It is not expected that everyone become sādhu. To become sādhu is not so easy thing, especially this nature of sādhu, pure. How many are there? We have given the prescription that, "Give up this, give up this." How many have given up this? So that is not possible, but still, these nonsense questions are raised.		So this is a rascal question, "If everyone surrenders, then what will happen to the world?" But that will never happen. It is very difficult to surrender. That he does not know . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">Samajh me aya? Bhai jab Bhagavan ka baat nahi sunta hai to humara baat kaun sunega?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Have you understood? Well, when they don't listen to God then who is going to listen to us?)</span> It is not expected that everyone become sādhu. To become sādhu is not so easy thing, especially this nature of sādhu, pure. How many are there? We have given the prescription that, "Give up this, give up this." How many have given up this? So that is not possible, but still, these nonsense questions are raised.

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' I go on?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' I go on?

Payal at 20:49, 13 October 2023

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our relatives, long, long ago, he happened to be, as my grandmother . . . my cousin's, oh, grandfather. He went to England in those old days, and he became a . . . (indistinct) . . . doctor, very . . . when he came home, the brahmins prescribed that, "You went to England, so you have to make this prāyaścitta and this and so many prescription, and unless you follow the prāyaścitta (atonement) you cannot live at home. Then your family will be extricated." So when these things were presented to him he said, "Then I am going out of home." His mother and father, everyone requested, <span style="color:#ff9933">"Beta, tumko ye karna padhega." "Wo bolta hai to hum fir ghar se jata hai." Wo ghar se nikal gaya aur Christian ~~aur~~ . . . ye jitna Christian, Muhammedan hua hai isliye . . . (indistinct) . . . ye itna Christian, Muhammedan kya bahar se aya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">("Son you will have to do this." "So I am leaving home." Then he left and ~~then~~ Christian and . . . all these Christians and Muhammedans are because of this . . . (indistinct) . . . so many Christians and Muhammedans, you think they have come from outside.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our relatives, long, long ago, he happened to be, as my grandmother . . . my cousin's, oh, grandfather. He went to England in those old days, and he became a . . . (indistinct) . . . doctor, very . . . when he came home, the brahmins prescribed that, "You went to England, so you have to make this prāyaścitta and this and so many prescription, and unless you follow the prāyaścitta (atonement) you cannot live at home. Then your family will be extricated." So when these things were presented to him he said, "Then I am going out of home." His mother and father, everyone requested, <span style="color:#ff9933">"Beta, tumko ye karna padhega." "To wo bolta hai jo hum fir ghar se jata hai." Wo ghar se nikal gaya aur Christian hogaya . . . ye jitna Christian, Muhammedan hua hai isliye . . . (indistinct) . . . ye itna Christian, Muhammedan kya bahar se aya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">("Son, you will have to do this." Then he says, "so I am leaving home." Then he left and became Christian and . . . all these Christians and Muhammedans are because of this . . . (indistinct) . . . so many Christians and Muhammedans, you think they have come from outside.)</span>

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RasaRasika at 01:41, 11 October 2023

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	'''Guest (1):''' It is published from Bombay and Delhi both.		'''Guest (1):''' It is published from Bombay and Delhi both.

	'''Haṁsadūta: Yes. I think in Bombay there was a large article.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Yes. I think in Bombay there was a large article.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' What about? Favorable or unfavorable?		'''Prabhupāda:''' What about? Favorable or unfavorable?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, oh. Yes, yes. I remember. She is envious, that "Why two-page advertisement publicity has been . . ." That's all.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, oh. Yes, yes. I remember. She is envious, that "Why two-page advertisement publicity has been . . ." That's all.

	'''Haṁsadūta:'''There's another letter. It says: "Your leading article on the Kṛṣṇa cult makes interesting reading. A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, the Indian founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, ISKCON, and his American disciples repeatedly told K.R. Sundarajan, the author of the article in the Times Weekly, November 8th, 1970, during their brief stay in Bombay that theirs was not strictly a Hindu movement.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' There's another letter. It says: "Your leading article on the Kṛṣṇa cult makes interesting reading. A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, the Indian founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, ISKCON, and his American disciples repeatedly told K.R. Sundarajan, the author of the article in the Times Weekly, November 8th, 1970, during their brief stay in Bombay that theirs was not strictly a Hindu movement.

	They explained to him that Kṛṣṇa was above all religions, the universal teacher, the supreme man, the purification of the Absolute Truth. If it is so, then why can't they go to Pakistan and China for chanting of Kṛṣṇa's name and ask them to vacate aggression? The soil of this land where the great master was born . . ."		They explained to him that Kṛṣṇa was above all religions, the universal teacher, the supreme man, the purification of the Absolute Truth. If it is so, then why can't they go to Pakistan and China for chanting of Kṛṣṇa's name and ask them to vacate aggression? The soil of this land where the great master was born . . ."

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' They are not doing anything. Actually they are not doing anything. They are preaching only.		'''Prabhupāda:''' They are not doing anything. Actually they are not doing anything. They are preaching only.

	'''Guest (1) (Indian man:)''' No, but he says that legions of such ''sādhus'', such white men, persons from West, become ''sādhus'', then who will do this job of earning a living?		'''Guest (1) (Indian man):''' No, but he says that legions of such ''sādhus'', such white men, persons from West, become ''sādhus'', then who will do this job of earning a living?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Why he is crying? If he is hungry, let him come here. We shall provide him. Why he is crying for that? What business he has got to cry, "What will they do?" What they will, that they know. Why he is crying? What is his business for crying for this future? If he is hungry, let him come and we shall provide him. This is not . . . that is a childish conception. "If everybody becomes ''sādhu'', then what will be the nature of the society?" That is . . . never becomes. That never becomes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Why he is crying? If he is hungry, let him come here. We shall provide him. Why he is crying for that? What business he has got to cry, "What will they do?" What they will, that they know. Why he is crying? What is his business for crying for this future? If he is hungry, let him come and we shall provide him. This is not . . . that is a childish conception. "If everybody becomes ''sādhu'', then what will be the nature of the society?" That is . . . never becomes. That never becomes.

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	'''Guest (1):''' That article, original article, was quite favorable. It was all praiseworthy and all that. That is why these two letters say that author of that article is unnecessarily being sentimental and this and that.		'''Guest (1):''' That article, original article, was quite favorable. It was all praiseworthy and all that. That is why these two letters say that author of that article is unnecessarily being sentimental and this and that.

	Revatīnandana: That was the Sunday edition of ''Times of India.''		'''Revatīnandana:''' That was the Sunday edition of ''Times of India.''

	Haṁsadūta: November 8th.		Haṁsadūta: November 8th.

	Revatīnandana: The magazine section. Two-page article with nice pictures. You liked it very much.		'''Revatīnandana:''' The magazine section. Two-page article with nice pictures. You liked it very much.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, oh. Yes, yes. I remember. She is envious, that "Why two-page advertisement publicity has been . . ." That's all.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, oh. Yes, yes. I remember. She is envious, that "Why two-page advertisement publicity has been . . ." That's all.