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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, thank you.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, thank you.

	'''Yadubara:''' . . . I'm happy to say.		'''Yadubara:''' . . . I'm happy to say.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You begin . . . (break) So who will go to Hong Kong?		'''Prabhupāda:''' You begin . . . (break) So who will go to Hong Kong?
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	The Supreme Absolute Truth is that from which or from whom everything emanates. So wherefrom this naughtiness comes if it is not in the person of God? Wherefrom this stealing propensity comes if it is not in God? But because He is absolute, His stealing is also as good as his blessing. ''Mākhan-cora''. Kṛṣṇa was stealing butter, that is worshiped, ''mākhana'', by the very name. Is just like in another temple, Kṣīra-cora-gopīnātha. Gopīnātha is known as condensed milk thief, Kṣīra-cora. He is famous by the name ''cora'', thief.		The Supreme Absolute Truth is that from which or from whom everything emanates. So wherefrom this naughtiness comes if it is not in the person of God? Wherefrom this stealing propensity comes if it is not in God? But because He is absolute, His stealing is also as good as his blessing. ''Mākhan-cora''. Kṛṣṇa was stealing butter, that is worshiped, ''mākhana'', by the very name. Is just like in another temple, Kṣīra-cora-gopīnātha. Gopīnātha is known as condensed milk thief, Kṣīra-cora. He is famous by the name ''cora'', thief.

	But that ''cora'' and this ''cora'', you cannot compare. He is famous as ''cora'', or thief, but thousands of people go every day to worship that ''cora'', that thief. And in the material, if one is known as thief, then thousands of people will beat him with shoes. (laughter) That is the difference. If you say: "Oh, Kṛṣṇa was a thief, then I can become a thief," then your will be beating of shoes on your head, and Kṛṣṇa will be eternally worshiped because He is thief. That is the difference. That is Absolute. He will be worshiped as thief, and He will be worshiped as very honest. That is Absolute. (aside:) No, no, this . . . (indistinct) . . . is not good. Will take little fruit.		But that ''cora'' and this ''cora'', you cannot compare. He is famous as ''cora'', or thief, but thousands of people go every day to worship that ''cora'', that thief. And in the material, if one is known as thief, then thousands of people will beat him with shoes. (laughter) That is the difference. If you say: "Oh, Kṛṣṇa was a thief, then I can become a thief," then your will be beating of shoes on your head, and Kṛṣṇa will be eternally worshiped because He is thief. That is the difference. That is Absolute. He will be worshiped as thief, and He will be worshiped as very honest. That is Absolute. (aside) No, no, this . . . (indistinct) . . . is not good. Will take little fruit.

	Kṛṣṇa is a woman-hunter. That is the highest pastimes of Kṛṣṇa, ''rāsa-līlā''. But here if a man becomes woman-hunter, he will be most abominable person. That is the mistake of the people: they consider Kṛṣṇa as ordinary man. ''Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā'' ([[BG 9.11 (1972)\|BG 9.11]]). They are rascals, fools, ''mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam''.		Kṛṣṇa is a woman-hunter. That is the highest pastimes of Kṛṣṇa, ''rāsa-līlā''. But here if a man becomes woman-hunter, he will be most abominable person. That is the mistake of the people: they consider Kṛṣṇa as ordinary man. ''Avajānanti māṁ mūḍhā'' ([[BG 9.11 (1972)\|BG 9.11]]). They are rascals, fools, ''mānuṣīṁ tanum āśritam''.
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	''Vaiṣṇavera kriyā'', ''mudrā vijñeha nā bujhaya''. In the ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta'', Vaiṣṇava ''ācārya'', his activities is not understood even by the wisest man. ''Vaiṣṇavera kriyā'', ''mudrā vijñeha nā bujhaya''. ''Brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. ''Ācārya'', ''guru'', he is completely surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. He has taken the shelter of Kṛṣṇa, being completely freed from all material affection. ''Brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. Everything . . . everyone has got some material desire to fulfill, but a ''guru'' or ''ācārya'' has no such business. That is the symptom of ''ācārya''. He has no more any material business.		''Vaiṣṇavera kriyā'', ''mudrā vijñeha nā bujhaya''. In the ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta'', Vaiṣṇava ''ācārya'', his activities is not understood even by the wisest man. ''Vaiṣṇavera kriyā'', ''mudrā vijñeha nā bujhaya''. ''Brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. ''Ācārya'', ''guru'', he is completely surrendered to Kṛṣṇa. He has taken the shelter of Kṛṣṇa, being completely freed from all material affection. ''Brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. Everything . . . everyone has got some material desire to fulfill, but a ''guru'' or ''ācārya'' has no such business. That is the symptom of ''ācārya''. He has no more any material business.

	''Brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. He has finished all business of material satisfaction. That is the symptom of ''ācārya''. And ''śābde pare ca niṣṇātam''. And he has taken full bath in the ocean of transcendental . . . (indistinct) . . . ''~~Śābde~~ pare ca niṣṇātaṁ brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. ''Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta'' ([[SB 11.3.21\|SB 11.3.21]]), one should surrender to such spiritual master. ''Jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam'', when he is actually serious about inquiring the transcendental subject matter.		''Brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. He has finished all business of material satisfaction. That is the symptom of ''ācārya''. And ''śābde pare ca niṣṇātam''. And he has taken full bath in the ocean of transcendental . . . (indistinct) . . . ''śābde pare ca niṣṇātaṁ brahmaṇy upaśamāśrayam''. ''Tasmād guruṁ prapadyeta'' ([[SB 11.3.21\|SB 11.3.21]]), one should surrender to such spiritual master. ''Jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam'', when he is actually serious about inquiring the transcendental subject matter.

	Otherwise there is no need of accepting ''guru'' or ''ācārya''. He has no business. If one is not interested in the transcendental subject matter . . . just as so many people come, they have no interest. Unnecessarily they talk and waste time. As soon as I asked that man that, "If I say something, whether you will accept?" He said, "If I like it, then I shall accept." Then why come to waste my time to inquire from me?		Otherwise there is no need of accepting ''guru'' or ''ācārya''. He has no business. If one is not interested in the transcendental subject matter . . . just as so many people come, they have no interest. Unnecessarily they talk and waste time. As soon as I asked that man that, "If I say something, whether you will accept?" He said, "If I like it, then I shall accept." Then why come to waste my time to inquire from me?

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	If you are in doubt, then don't go there. That is the position. It is freedom. It is not that you have to accept some ''ācārya'' particular by canvassing. No, you should be satisfied that, "Yes, here I can surrender, here I can gain something." Then surrender. In the spiritual science, there is no bluffing. Everything must be very clear-cut. Otherwise it will be not very satisfactory. (break) Hear this sound, ''ca-caw caw''. (laughter) Because nobody keeps this rooster.		If you are in doubt, then don't go there. That is the position. It is freedom. It is not that you have to accept some ''ācārya'' particular by canvassing. No, you should be satisfied that, "Yes, here I can surrender, here I can gain something." Then surrender. In the spiritual science, there is no bluffing. Everything must be very clear-cut. Otherwise it will be not very satisfactory. (break) Hear this sound, ''ca-caw caw''. (laughter) Because nobody keeps this rooster.

	Yamunā: Oh, that's chicken? Oh.		'''Yamunā:''' Oh, that's chicken? Oh.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, what is . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, what is . . .

	Yamunā: Peacock?		'''Yamunā:''' Peacock?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Peacock, yes. ''Yak, yak'', like that. That sound he makes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Peacock, yes. ''Yak, yak'', like that. That sound he makes.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' They will mislead some white man and . . . in India also there is this class. In Assam side. They eat man. Man mean, they regularly sacrifice before the Goddess Durgā and eat. Ahiravan, Rāvaṇa's brother. The Red Indians, they also eat, in America. Do they not?		'''Prabhupāda:''' They will mislead some white man and . . . in India also there is this class. In Assam side. They eat man. Man mean, they regularly sacrifice before the Goddess Durgā and eat. Ahiravan, Rāvaṇa's brother. The Red Indians, they also eat, in America. Do they not?

	Yamunā: They used to. There are no left anymore.		'''Yamunā:''' They used to. There are no left anymore.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Used to" means who knows what they are doing now.		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Used to" means who knows what they are doing now.

	Yamunā: The white men came and killed them.		'''Yamunā:''' The white men came and killed them.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is another thing, but they kill for eating. That is . . . fighting or for taking possession, killing, that is everywhere. That is not extraordinary. But killing for eating a man, that is extraordinary. (chuckles)		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is another thing, but they kill for eating. That is . . . fighting or for taking possession, killing, that is everywhere. That is not extraordinary. But killing for eating a man, that is extraordinary. (chuckles)
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. You can discuss with these boys and girls. Try to understand. Here there is nothing dogmatic. Even something appears to be dogmatic, it is not dogmatic.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. You can discuss with these boys and girls. Try to understand. Here there is nothing dogmatic. Even something appears to be dogmatic, it is not dogmatic.

	Yamunā: Even if we have dog's obstinacy, Prabhupāda . . .		'''Yamunā:''' Even if we have dog's obstinacy, Prabhupāda . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Yamunā: Even if we have dog's obstinacy, if we just associate long enough, then it will act upon you.		'''Yamunā:''' Even if we have dog's obstinacy, if we just associate long enough, then it will act upon you.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, if we open our heart, then open-heartedly, then it will be nice. No reservation. And that open-heartedness means free from designation. That is open-heartedness. If I think, "Oh, I am American. Why shall I take this Indian philosophy?" Or if I think, "I am Christian. Why shall I take the philosophy of ''Bhagavad-gītā''?" then it will not work. One has to be free from these designations. Then it will be easy. I am . . . God is God, and I am also part and parcel of God, my relationship with God.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, if we open our heart, then open-heartedly, then it will be nice. No reservation. And that open-heartedness means free from designation. That is open-heartedness. If I think, "Oh, I am American. Why shall I take this Indian philosophy?" Or if I think, "I am Christian. Why shall I take the philosophy of ''Bhagavad-gītā''?" then it will not work. One has to be free from these designations. Then it will be easy. I am . . . God is God, and I am also part and parcel of God, my relationship with God.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' They eat man also. Yes. There was a case in Calcutta—they were eating man. They will call a hawker, "Come in, I shall purchase." And as soon as he enters, he never comes back. There were two hawkers. So one entered the house and other was waiting. But when he saw that he is not coming, he went to the police that, "My friend, he went but he is not coming." The police inquired and made a search, whole house, there were so many human bones, they're eating. Man-eater. Man-eater, in Africa there are many.		'''Prabhupāda:''' They eat man also. Yes. There was a case in Calcutta—they were eating man. They will call a hawker, "Come in, I shall purchase." And as soon as he enters, he never comes back. There were two hawkers. So one entered the house and other was waiting. But when he saw that he is not coming, he went to the police that, "My friend, he went but he is not coming." The police inquired and made a search, whole house, there were so many human bones, they're eating. Man-eater. Man-eater, in Africa there are many.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're called cannibals.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They're called cannibals.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They're called cannibals.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They're called cannibals.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Cannibals, and they eat white man very . . . they like white.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Cannibals, and they eat white man very . . . they like white.

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	Śyāmasundara: Shall we decide now, or shall we wait until tomorrow?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Shall we decide now, or shall we wait until tomorrow?

	'''Devotee:''' I met one man from Hong Kong yesterday, Dr. Bali, so Body and he said he'd give us financial help in Hong Kong. I will go to see him this morning. I already told him about getting here.		'''Devotee:''' I met one man from Hong Kong yesterday, Dr. Bali, so Body and he said he'd give us financial help in Hong Kong. I will go to see him this morning. I already told him about getting here.

	Śyāmasundara: To Singapore also?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' To Singapore also?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Śyāmasundara: To Singapore also, the same men? The same two men will go to Singapore and Hong Kong. (devotees chant ''japa'') Do you think Revatīnandana could go? You said Revatīnandana should go?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' To Singapore also, the same men? The same two men will go to Singapore and Hong Kong. (devotees chant ''japa'') Do you think Revatīnandana could go? You said Revatīnandana should go?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, he can go. (''japa'' continues) Are you getting some interest with our association?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, he can go. (''japa'' continues) Are you getting some interest with our association?
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	(aside) What is this?		(aside) What is this?

	Śyāmasundara: It's salt and pepper.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' It's salt and pepper.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no. One has to learn how Kṛṣṇa is always God in any circumstance. And if he can understand this philosophy, then Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' he becomes immediately liberated. ''Janma karma me divyaṁ ye jānāti tattvataḥ''. "My activities, My birth, they are all transcendental. One who understands in truth," ''tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti'' ([[BG 4.9 (1972)\|BG 4.9]]), "after leaving this body, he no more comes to this material."		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no. One has to learn how Kṛṣṇa is always God in any circumstance. And if he can understand this philosophy, then Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' he becomes immediately liberated. ''Janma karma me divyaṁ ye jānāti tattvataḥ''. "My activities, My birth, they are all transcendental. One who understands in truth," ''tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti'' ([[BG 4.9 (1972)\|BG 4.9]]), "after leaving this body, he no more comes to this material."
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' British? I do not understand. What is his real question?		'''Prabhupāda:''' British? I do not understand. What is his real question?

	Śyāmasundara: Should the British have been violently thrown out of India?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Should the British have been violently thrown out of India?

	Yadubara: But if somebody is stepping on you, then you should take action to remove those people.		Yadubara: But if somebody is stepping on you, then you should take action to remove those people.
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	(aside) So when we shall have to go?		(aside) So when we shall have to go?

	Śyāmasundara: I'll just see if the car is here. (break)		'''Śyāmasundara:''' I'll just see if the car is here. (break)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . have to take away Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma. The Japanese, they also eat everything? No.		'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . have to take away Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma. The Japanese, they also eat everything? No.
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	And ''hy upadrutāḥ''. And over and above everything, they are always disturbed by external enemies. This is the position of Kali-yuga. And this life shortened, duration of life. So how they can advance by following the regular Vedic process? It is not possible. ''Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma'' ([[CC Adi 17.21]]). No car?		And ''hy upadrutāḥ''. And over and above everything, they are always disturbed by external enemies. This is the position of Kali-yuga. And this life shortened, duration of life. So how they can advance by following the regular Vedic process? It is not possible. ''Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma'' ([[CC Adi 17.21]]). No car?

	Śyāmasundara: Not yet come.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Not yet come.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Uh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Uh?

	Śyāmasundara: He will ring as soon as it comes. He telephoned it is on its way. It should be here any moment. (pause)		'''Śyāmasundara:''' He will ring as soon as it comes. He telephoned it is on its way. It should be here any moment. (pause)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' They are so slow. They do not understand the spiritual value of life, and simply they are satisfied with something hodgepodge, that's all. The entire population of the present-day world. (break) Just like the hippies. There are so many hippies. They want something spiritual, but no clear . . . something hodgepodge, that's all.		'''Prabhupāda:''' They are so slow. They do not understand the spiritual value of life, and simply they are satisfied with something hodgepodge, that's all. The entire population of the present-day world. (break) Just like the hippies. There are so many hippies. They want something spiritual, but no clear . . . something hodgepodge, that's all.

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	What is the use of her speaking if she has no clear idea? This is going on. Useless speaking. In India also, so many fools, they are accepted as very perfect. Just like Gandhi, take Gandhi. What was Gandhi? In spiritual consciousness, he is nothing. Nothing, no value. But if we say in the public, they will be angry, "Oh!" But actually there is no value, no spiritual value. He is known all over the world as a great spiritualist. He was a moralist, that's all. That is not a qualification for understanding God.		What is the use of her speaking if she has no clear idea? This is going on. Useless speaking. In India also, so many fools, they are accepted as very perfect. Just like Gandhi, take Gandhi. What was Gandhi? In spiritual consciousness, he is nothing. Nothing, no value. But if we say in the public, they will be angry, "Oh!" But actually there is no value, no spiritual value. He is known all over the world as a great spiritualist. He was a moralist, that's all. That is not a qualification for understanding God.

	Gurudas: It says: "Any activities sanctioned in the revealed scriptures and aiming at the satisfaction of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are accepted by saintly teachers as the regulative principles of devotional service. If somebody regularly executes such service unto the Personality of Godhead under the direction of a bona fide spiritual master, then gradually he rises to the platform of serving in pure love of God." (pause)		'''Gurudas:''' It says: "Any activities sanctioned in the revealed scriptures and aiming at the satisfaction of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are accepted by saintly teachers as the regulative principles of devotional service. If somebody regularly executes such service unto the Personality of Godhead under the direction of a bona fide spiritual master, then gradually he rises to the platform of serving in pure love of God." (pause)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That nonviolence. Kṛṣṇa is number one violent. (chuckles) Number one. There is no limit of His violence. Just see.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That nonviolence. Kṛṣṇa is number one violent. (chuckles) Number one. There is no limit of His violence. Just see.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Peacock, yes. ''Yak, yak'', like that. That sound he makes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Peacock, yes. ''Yak, yak'', like that. That sound he makes.

	Guru dāsa: And ''kīrtana''.		'''Guru dāsa:''' And ''kīrtana''.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh?

	Guru dāsa: We can hear ''kīrtana''.		'''Guru dāsa:''' We can hear ''kīrtana''.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Kīrtana'' and bell in the temple, ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong''. This sound we will hear early in . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Kīrtana'' and bell in the temple, ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong'', ''dong''. This sound we will hear early in . . .
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So this Calcutta story is not a story, it is fact. Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So this Calcutta story is not a story, it is fact. Hmm?

	Guru dāsa: I was asking Yamunā about the tape.		'''Guru dāsa:''' I was asking Yamunā about the tape.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Tape?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Tape?

	Guru dāsa: About this tape recording.		'''Guru dāsa:''' About this tape recording.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. It is not the question of, "The Chinese are eating, I am not eating." It is a question that how many number of different types of body I got. It is not that I am talking of Chinaman eating man or dog. I may be in that form, next life. So, therefore, the problem is how to stop this transmigration of the soul. That is the problem. Not that because the Chinese man eats something else other than I eat, that does not mean that I am very much . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. It is not the question of, "The Chinese are eating, I am not eating." It is a question that how many number of different types of body I got. It is not that I am talking of Chinaman eating man or dog. I may be in that form, next life. So, therefore, the problem is how to stop this transmigration of the soul. That is the problem. Not that because the Chinese man eats something else other than I eat, that does not mean that I am very much . . .

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	Śyāmasundara: Shall we decide now, or shall we wait until tomorrow?		Śyāmasundara: Shall we decide now, or shall we wait until tomorrow?

	Devotee: I met one man from Hong Kong yesterday, Dr. Bali, so Body and he said he'd give us financial help in Hong Kong. I will go to see him this morning. I already told him about getting here.		'''Devotee:''' I met one man from Hong Kong yesterday, Dr. Bali, so Body and he said he'd give us financial help in Hong Kong. I will go to see him this morning. I already told him about getting here.

	Śyāmasundara: To Singapore also?		Śyāmasundara: To Singapore also?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Surat?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Surat?

	Devotee: In Surat.		'''Devotee:''' In Surat.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Surat, what happened? One man questioned?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Surat, what happened? One man questioned?

	Devotee: A man in Surat brought up the question of whether the British should be removed from India.		'''Devotee:''' A man in Surat brought up the question of whether the British should be removed from India.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' British? I do not understand. What is his real question?		'''Prabhupāda:''' British? I do not understand. What is his real question?
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	The means is also Kṛṣṇa, and the end is also Kṛṣṇa. That is Absolute. Absolute . . . we must have clear conception of what is the Absolute. In any circumstances, the quality of the Absolute remains the same. What was the question in Surat?		The means is also Kṛṣṇa, and the end is also Kṛṣṇa. That is Absolute. Absolute . . . we must have clear conception of what is the Absolute. In any circumstances, the quality of the Absolute remains the same. What was the question in Surat?

	Devotee: Whether the British should have been forcibly removed from India.		'''Devotee:''' Whether the British should have been forcibly removed from India.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is ordinary duty. If you encroach upon my freedom, I have the right to kill you. That is recommended. Then . . . clearly said in the ''śāstras''. If anyone sets fire in another's house, if anyone kidnaps his wife, if anyone takes his money—so many list—he is to be killed. There is no question. He can be killed immediately. That action-reaction is going on in the material world, that is a different thing. That is ''karma-bandha''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is ordinary duty. If you encroach upon my freedom, I have the right to kill you. That is recommended. Then . . . clearly said in the ''śāstras''. If anyone sets fire in another's house, if anyone kidnaps his wife, if anyone takes his money—so many list—he is to be killed. There is no question. He can be killed immediately. That action-reaction is going on in the material world, that is a different thing. That is ''karma-bandha''.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' In Hawaii, this disturbance is there. (laughter) Always, ''ca-caw'', ''caw''. (laughter)		'''Prabhupāda:''' In Hawaii, this disturbance is there. (laughter) Always, ''ca-caw'', ''caw''. (laughter)

	Devotee: There's not so much at Advaita Bhavan.		'''Devotee:''' There's not so much at Advaita Bhavan.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Devotee: There's not chickens at Advaita Bhavan.		'''Devotee:''' There's not chickens at Advaita Bhavan.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, in neighborhood. In Hawaii, they are very much fond of. Some of them eat dogs also.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, in neighborhood. In Hawaii, they are very much fond of. Some of them eat dogs also.

	Devotee: Yes, the Filipinos eat dogs.		'''Devotee:''' Yes, the Filipinos eat dogs.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Filipino.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Filipino.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is another thing, but they kill for eating. That is . . . fighting or for taking possession, killing, that is everywhere. That is not extraordinary. But killing for eating a man, that is extraordinary. (chuckles)		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is another thing, but they kill for eating. That is . . . fighting or for taking possession, killing, that is everywhere. That is not extraordinary. But killing for eating a man, that is extraordinary. (chuckles)

	Devotee: That's only in Kali-yuga, yes, Prabhupāda?		'''Devotee:''' That's only in Kali-yuga, yes, Prabhupāda?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Devotee: Only in . . .		'''Devotee:''' Only in . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, all the ''yugas''. More or less.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, all the ''yugas''. More or less.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . have to take away Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma. The Japanese, they also eat everything? No.		'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . have to take away Kṛṣṇa and Balarāma. The Japanese, they also eat everything? No.

	Devotee: Not now.		'''Devotee:''' Not now.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Some of them?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Some of them?

	Devotee: In times of war, I think all people . . .		'''Devotee:''' In times of war, I think all people . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is another thing, but generally.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is another thing, but generally.

	Devotee: No, they don't. In China, the island of Taiwan, the original inhabitants, they were known as man-eaters.		'''Devotee:''' No, they don't. In China, the island of Taiwan, the original inhabitants, they were known as man-eaters.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Man-eaters?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Man-eaters?

	Devotee: Yes.		'''Devotee:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So this Calcutta story is not a story, it is fact. Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So this Calcutta story is not a story, it is fact. Hmm?
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	So let me understand what is that relationship, what is God, what I am. That freedom, that open-heartedness will make it. But if I try to understand as Christian, as Englishman, as Japanese, as Indian, then it will be difficult. Many of our students joined, even initiated, but they could not make them free from these stereotyped ideas. ''Sarvopādhi vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). One must be free from the . . . ''aiye aiye''. So let us go. Take the box. (break)		So let me understand what is that relationship, what is God, what I am. That freedom, that open-heartedness will make it. But if I try to understand as Christian, as Englishman, as Japanese, as Indian, then it will be difficult. Many of our students joined, even initiated, but they could not make them free from these stereotyped ideas. ''Sarvopādhi vinirmuktaṁ tat-paratvena nirmalam'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). One must be free from the . . . ''aiye aiye''. So let us go. Take the box. (break)

	Devotee: I'll try and please you, but I don't think I can do such a nice job.		'''Devotee:''' I'll try and please you, but I don't think I can do such a nice job.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' I have seen the Sai's photo. From his photograph, it appears he has a ''guru''. From his appearance, I can understand. (break)		'''Prabhupāda:''' I have seen the Sai's photo. From his photograph, it appears he has a ''guru''. From his appearance, I can understand. (break)

	Devotee: I feel that it is my duty to see that the devotees who are staying at the other temples are respectful and are following your wishes.		'''Devotee:''' I feel that it is my duty to see that the devotees who are staying at the other temples are respectful and are following your wishes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	Devotee: Some things that Sai mentioned in that letter that I should answer, he asked about photographs, spiritual photographs.		'''Devotee:''' Some things that Sai mentioned in that letter that I should answer, he asked about photographs, spiritual photographs.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' My photograph?		'''Prabhupāda:''' My photograph?

	Devotee: Yes, he said something about photographs, that the devotees had photographs of him and he didn't want them to have them if you didn't want them to.		'''Devotee:''' Yes, he said something about photographs, that the devotees had photographs of him and he didn't want them to have them if you didn't want them to.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, that is not harmful. He can . . . (break) (end)		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, that is not harmful. He can . . . (break) (end)

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