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	(aside) I was expecting you earlier because I speak in English for them.		(aside) I was expecting you earlier because I speak in English for them.

	'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Mahāraja ab hum pratidin 5 baje aa jayenge. Koi baat nahi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Mahāraja, from now on everyday I will come at 5. It's all right?)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Mahāraja ab hum pratidin 5 baje aa jayenge. Koi baat nahi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Mahāraja, from now on everyday I will come at 5. It's all right?)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Haan, aap thoda translation karke Hindi mei samjha dijiyega.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, you please translate and make them understand in Hindi a little bit.)</span> So one who cannot understand English, they can hear that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Haan, aap thoda translation karke Hindi mei samjha dijiyega.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, you please translate and make them understand in Hindi a little bit.)</span> So one who cannot understand English, they can hear that.

	'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ab hum aayega na. Bilkul time pe aa jayega. Aaj hum isi time mei aaye. Kal bhi aaye savere se, jab se aaye hain tab se.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I will certainly come on time from now. Today I also came at the same time. Yesterday I also came in the morning, ever since I have come here.)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Ab hum aayega na. Bilkul time pe aa jayega. Aaj hum isi time mei aaye. Kal bhi aaye savere se, jab se aaye hain tab se.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I will certainly come on time from now. Today I also came at the same time. Yesterday I also came in the morning, ever since I have come here.)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Is jagah mei koi sasta ādami hai kya?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is there someone affordable to hire here?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Is jagah mei koi sasta ādami hai kya?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is there someone affordable to hire here?)</span>

	'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Jee, uske baare mei kal hum aapko pura batayenge. Savere jab hum aayenge.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, I will let you know everything about that tomorrow morning when I come.)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Jee, uske baare mei kal hum aapko pura batayenge. Savere jab hum aayenge.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, I will let you know everything about that tomorrow morning when I come.)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Everyone is requesting to have a temple here. Some police officers, they are very much appreciating. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Toh hum logo ko kya kahin jagaha mil sakta hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(So can we get some place here?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' Everyone is requesting to have a temple here. Some police officers, they are very much appreciating. <span style="color:#ec710e">Toh hum logo ko kya kahin jagaha mil sakta hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(So can we get some place here?)</span>

	'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Meri aise hai ki jo do baar dekh lega aakar ke, toh un logon ko, aaj ho sakta hai unko mai kehta hoon ki ek baar aap aake Bhagvan ki pooja dekhiye, aaj hi. Unke baad aap ye . . . (indistinct) . . . ho jayegi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I think once or twice if someone comes here and sees for themselves, maybe I can do it today. I will tell them to come and see Bhagavān pūjā once, after that . . . (indistinct) . . . it will be done.)</span> (pause)		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Meri aise hai ki jo do baar dekh lega aakar ke, toh un logon ko, aaj ho sakta hai unko mai kehta hoon ki ek baar aap aake Bhagvan ki pooja dekhiye, aaj hi. Unke baad aap ye . . . (indistinct) . . . ho jayegi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I think once or twice if someone comes here and sees for themselves, maybe I can do it today. I will tell them to come and see Bhagavān pūjā once, after that . . . (indistinct) . . . it will be done.)</span> (pause)

	So Śrīdhāra Swami is very nicely explaining the omnipotency of chanting the holy name. So he says, ''tasmād idam upapannam iti tatrāha etāvad iti''. If one takes shelter of the transcendental holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he hasn't got to go through the ''dharma śāstras'' or abiding by the rules and regulation of different kinds of religious scripture. ''Etāvat''. ''Etāvad iti''. Simply by surrendering to the holy name.		So Śrīdhāra Swami is very nicely explaining the omnipotency of chanting the holy name. So he says, ''tasmād idam upapannam iti tatrāha etāvad iti''. If one takes shelter of the transcendental holy name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he hasn't got to go through the ''dharma śāstras'' or abiding by the rules and regulation of different kinds of religious scripture. ''Etāvat''. ''Etāvad iti''. Simply by surrendering to the holy name.

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	Because a person who is fixed up in devotional service, he is a ''brāhmin''. He is a ''brāhmin''. He is no more any other, because he has cleansed almost the bad habits and the unclean state of mind. ''Naṣṭa prāyeṣu abhadreṣu''. Just see. It is, whatever we are doing, it is all according to the ''śāstra''. Not that he has completely become free, but ''naṣṭa prāyeṣu''. ''Prāya'' means almost. Almost he has finished the contamination. Therefore he is fixed up. The first test is whether he is fixed up. As soon as he is fixed up, that means he is fixed up in the brahminical stage.		Because a person who is fixed up in devotional service, he is a ''brāhmin''. He is a ''brāhmin''. He is no more any other, because he has cleansed almost the bad habits and the unclean state of mind. ''Naṣṭa prāyeṣu abhadreṣu''. Just see. It is, whatever we are doing, it is all according to the ''śāstra''. Not that he has completely become free, but ''naṣṭa prāyeṣu''. ''Prāya'' means almost. Almost he has finished the contamination. Therefore he is fixed up. The first test is whether he is fixed up. As soon as he is fixed up, that means he is fixed up in the brahminical stage.

	My Guru Mahārāja introduced the sacred ceremony because foolish people, they used to . . . ''~~Vaiṣṇave~~ jāti-buddhiḥ''. They used to consider Vaiṣṇava as belonging to some ''jāta'', some particular caste. No. Vaiṣṇava is not in the particular caste. As soon as he is fixed up . . . he may be coming from the ''pāpa-yoni'', from the most abominable family, but as soon as he is fixed up, immediately he is fixed up in the position of a ''brāhmin'' because ''sattva-guṇa'' . . . ''~~Naṣṭa~~-prāyeṣu abhadreṣu''. ''Naṣṭa'' . . . ''~~Tato~~ rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.19\|SB 1.2.19]]). He has no more inclination to be attracted by the activities of ''tamo-guṇa'' and ''rajo-guṇa''. They have no more attraction for drinking, no more attraction for meat-eating, therefore no more attraction for smoking, drinking tea.		My Guru Mahārāja introduced the sacred ceremony because foolish people, they used to . . . ''vaiṣṇave jāti-buddhiḥ''. They used to consider Vaiṣṇava as belonging to some ''jāta'', some particular caste. No. Vaiṣṇava is not in the particular caste. As soon as he is fixed up . . . he may be coming from the ''pāpa-yoni'', from the most abominable family, but as soon as he is fixed up, immediately he is fixed up in the position of a ''brāhmin'' because ''sattva-guṇa'' . . . ''naṣṭa-prāyeṣu abhadreṣu''. ''Naṣṭa'' . . . ''tato rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.19\|SB 1.2.19]]). He has no more inclination to be attracted by the activities of ''tamo-guṇa'' and ''rajo-guṇa''. They have no more attraction for drinking, no more attraction for meat-eating, therefore no more attraction for smoking, drinking tea.

	This means that the ''rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'', ''kāma-lobha'', greediness. We are addicted to all these bad habits due to greediness. There is no other cause. A man will not die if he does not drink. A man will not die if he does not eat meat. He will not die. It is due to our greediness, "I want." And lusty. The illicit sex means lusty. So ''rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'' means lustiness and greediness.		This means that the ''rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'', ''kāma-lobha'', greediness. We are addicted to all these bad habits due to greediness. There is no other cause. A man will not die if he does not drink. A man will not die if he does not eat meat. He will not die. It is due to our greediness, "I want." And lusty. The illicit sex means lusty. So ''rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'' means lustiness and greediness.

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	(aside) You can hear now.		(aside) You can hear now.

	Yamunā: Yes.		'''Yamunā:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Ajāmila, there was not pure ''saṅkīrtana''. Just like we are advised when chanting the ''mantra'', ''mahā-mantra'', to avoid ten kinds of offenses. So Ajāmila had no such program. He never meant that he was chanting the holy name of Nārāyaṇa. This point is being stressed by Śrīdhāra Swami. He simply tried to call his son, whose name was Nārāyaṇa.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ajāmila, there was not pure ''saṅkīrtana''. Just like we are advised when chanting the ''mantra'', ''mahā-mantra'', to avoid ten kinds of offenses. So Ajāmila had no such program. He never meant that he was chanting the holy name of Nārāyaṇa. This point is being stressed by Śrīdhāra Swami. He simply tried to call his son, whose name was Nārāyaṇa.

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	I think it is now . . . so any questions?		I think it is now . . . so any questions?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda? You said . . . when you were speaking of ''bhāgavata-vidhi'', you said that of the nine devotional methods, it includes . . . I didn't understand which ones it includes, up to what point.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Prabhupāda? You said . . . when you were speaking of ''bhāgavata-vidhi'', you said that of the nine devotional methods, it includes . . . I didn't understand which ones it includes, up to what point.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Śravaṇam kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇam'' ([[SB 7.5.23-24\|SB 7.5.23]])—this is ''bhāgavata-mārga''. And ''arcanaṁ vandanaṁ dāsyaṁ sākhyam ātmā-nivedanam''—that is ''pañcarātrika'', ''arcanam''. So out of the nine—nine, eight, seven, six, five—whatever you do, that is sufficient because absolute. Any item, even one item, you can, if you perform perfectly, that is sufficient. But there are nine alternative items.		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Śravaṇam kīrtanaṁ viṣṇoḥ smaraṇam'' ([[SB 7.5.23-24\|SB 7.5.23]])—this is ''bhāgavata-mārga''. And ''arcanaṁ vandanaṁ dāsyaṁ sākhyam ātmā-nivedanam''—that is ''pañcarātrika'', ''arcanam''. So out of the nine—nine, eight, seven, six, five—whatever you do, that is sufficient because absolute. Any item, even one item, you can, if you perform perfectly, that is sufficient. But there are nine alternative items.

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	People are . . . they come . . . mostly people, they are being conducted by passion and ignorance. Therefore they cannot understand. They say: "Such and such person is greater than Kṛṣṇa," because they are captivated by ignorance. They do not know, and therefore talk so many nonsense. Unless we are freed from the ''rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'' . . . they advise, "You can do whatever you like. You can eat whatever you like. Now you are liberated, you can indulge in all kinds of nonsense, but still, you are God. You are Brahman." These things are going on. How they can understand Kṛṣṇa? It is not possible.		People are . . . they come . . . mostly people, they are being conducted by passion and ignorance. Therefore they cannot understand. They say: "Such and such person is greater than Kṛṣṇa," because they are captivated by ignorance. They do not know, and therefore talk so many nonsense. Unless we are freed from the ''rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ'' . . . they advise, "You can do whatever you like. You can eat whatever you like. Now you are liberated, you can indulge in all kinds of nonsense, but still, you are God. You are Brahman." These things are going on. How they can understand Kṛṣṇa? It is not possible.

	Revatīnandana: Śrīla Prabhupāda? If they were more intelligent in previous ages, then why didn't they take to the chanting process? Why did they do it, the more difficult method, if they were more intelligent?		'''Revatīnandana:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda? If they were more intelligent in previous ages, then why didn't they take to the chanting process? Why did they do it, the more difficult method, if they were more intelligent?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' They do not care. They say: "What is this chanting? Let me perform a big sacrifice." That is explained. ''Jaḍi-kṛta-matiḥ''. They are so materialized, they do not understand the importance of chanting. For them, they should be called, "Come on. Here is a big ''yajña''. Bring three hundred pounds of ''ghee''." "Oh, it is something." You see? "It is something."		'''Prabhupāda:''' They do not care. They say: "What is this chanting? Let me perform a big sacrifice." That is explained. ''Jaḍi-kṛta-matiḥ''. They are so materialized, they do not understand the importance of chanting. For them, they should be called, "Come on. Here is a big ''yajña''. Bring three hundred pounds of ''ghee''." "Oh, it is something." You see? "It is something."

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Chanting . . . chanting? What is your question?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Chanting . . . chanting? What is your question?

	Haṁsadūta: Right now we have so many preachers, so many other kinds of preachers in India. Then how can they get rid of them just by chanting?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Right now we have so many preachers, so many other kinds of preachers in India. Then how can they get rid of them just by chanting?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the difficulty. That is the difficulty. But you have to got little intelligent associate. Just like if you want to purchase something, once or twice you may be cheated. A third time, you are very intelligent. (chuckles) So even despite being cheated, you should try to find out who is the real preacher. That requires little intelligence.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the difficulty. That is the difficulty. But you have to got little intelligent associate. Just like if you want to purchase something, once or twice you may be cheated. A third time, you are very intelligent. (chuckles) So even despite being cheated, you should try to find out who is the real preacher. That requires little intelligence.
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	Then when there is date for appearance in the court, in the court the man was brought, and ''yogī''. You see? And Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura asked . . . Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura was suffering still in fever. Still, he attended the court and asked the constables that, "Cut his ''jāta''."		Then when there is date for appearance in the court, in the court the man was brought, and ''yogī''. You see? And Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura asked . . . Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura was suffering still in fever. Still, he attended the court and asked the constables that, "Cut his ''jāta''."

	Haṁsadūta: What is ''jāta''?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' What is ''jāta''?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Jāta'' is hair. Hair. ''Jāta''. So no barber was available. (laughter) Because they knew that Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, after arresting, he is suffering from fever. Whole family is lying down in fever. So nobody came forward to cut his ''jāta''. So Bhaktivinoda, "All right, bring one scissor. I shall cut." So he personally cut, and personally cut, and that man became very thin immediately after cutting his ''jāta''. He had some power in the ''jāta''. And he ordered six months' imprisonment. And in the prison he managed to take some poison and die.		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Jāta'' is hair. Hair. ''Jāta''. So no barber was available. (laughter) Because they knew that Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura, after arresting, he is suffering from fever. Whole family is lying down in fever. So nobody came forward to cut his ''jāta''. So Bhaktivinoda, "All right, bring one scissor. I shall cut." So he personally cut, and personally cut, and that man became very thin immediately after cutting his ''jāta''. He had some power in the ''jāta''. And he ordered six months' imprisonment. And in the prison he managed to take some poison and die.

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	Therefore, in the Kali-yuga there is no other alternative than to chant peacefully, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare. There is no protection. And what does the executive heads, the presidents or secretaries? They simply manipulate some votes, third-class men. Who has written that article?		Therefore, in the Kali-yuga there is no other alternative than to chant peacefully, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare. There is no protection. And what does the executive heads, the presidents or secretaries? They simply manipulate some votes, third-class men. Who has written that article?

	Devotees: Satsvarūpa.		'''Devotees:''' Satsvarūpa.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' (chuckles) What he has written? "In this age government is ruled by . . .?"		'''Prabhupāda:''' (chuckles) What he has written? "In this age government is ruled by . . .?"

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	Therefore ''vaidhi-bhakti,'' as it is enunciated in the ''Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu'', ''Nectar of Devotion'', by the Gosvāmīs, we shall try to follow as far as possible. Be sincere and hard-working. Then the success is sure. Not to be bewildered, misled by the so-called ''avatāra'', incarnation. You see? The so-called ''avatāras'', they are simply rascals. Especially in Bengal, every day there is an ''avatāra''. (laughter)		Therefore ''vaidhi-bhakti,'' as it is enunciated in the ''Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu'', ''Nectar of Devotion'', by the Gosvāmīs, we shall try to follow as far as possible. Be sincere and hard-working. Then the success is sure. Not to be bewildered, misled by the so-called ''avatāra'', incarnation. You see? The so-called ''avatāras'', they are simply rascals. Especially in Bengal, every day there is an ''avatāra''. (laughter)

	Devotee: The other day I received a postcard . . . (indistinct) . . . that, "Some Viṣṇu has appeared in some temple, next to . . . (indistinct) . . . please come and see us."		'''Devotee:''' The other day I received a postcard . . . (indistinct) . . . that, "Some Viṣṇu has appeared in some temple, next to . . . (indistinct) . . . please come and see us."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see. So many. Everyone.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see. So many. Everyone.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' "The lowest class of men." He is bold enough to declare like that. One of our students, he has written an article in which he has said that, "At the present moment, everywhere, the government is ruled by lowest class of men." And he's right in this sense, because this is the verdict of the ''Vedas''. ''Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad guṇā'' ([[SB 5.18.12\|SB 5.18.12]]). Unless one is a devotee of the Personality of Godhead, he cannot have any good qualification. That's a fact. And one who is a devotee, all good qualifications automatically develop. (noise) What is this? Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' "The lowest class of men." He is bold enough to declare like that. One of our students, he has written an article in which he has said that, "At the present moment, everywhere, the government is ruled by lowest class of men." And he's right in this sense, because this is the verdict of the ''Vedas''. ''Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad guṇā'' ([[SB 5.18.12\|SB 5.18.12]]). Unless one is a devotee of the Personality of Godhead, he cannot have any good qualification. That's a fact. And one who is a devotee, all good qualifications automatically develop. (noise) What is this? Hmm?

	Devotee: He tipped a glass of water.		'''Devotee:''' He tipped a glass of water.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So as far as possible, let us follow the footsteps of ''mahājana''—''mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ'' ([[CC Madhya 17.186\|CC Madhya 17.186]])—and depend on Kṛṣṇa and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Everything will be all right. The simple method. Try to follow Caitanya Mahāprabhu's teachings. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mantra'' and be sincere, and, as far as possible, worship the Deity. Everything is all right.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So as far as possible, let us follow the footsteps of ''mahājana''—''mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ'' ([[CC Madhya 17.186\|CC Madhya 17.186]])—and depend on Kṛṣṇa and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Everything will be all right. The simple method. Try to follow Caitanya Mahāprabhu's teachings. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa ''mantra'' and be sincere, and, as far as possible, worship the Deity. Everything is all right.

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	Gorgeousness. They want gorgeousness. And people come to show them gorgeousness to cheat. Because although it is not possible to perform properly ''yajña'', but people are . . . want that, so there are many cheaters. They say: "Oh, this ''yajña'', that ''yajña'', that ''yajña''," and people will be attracted. ''Jaḍi-kṛta-matiḥ'', materialized. Their brain cannot accommodate that the Hare Kṛṣṇa, this Kṛṣṇa name, is Kṛṣṇa. It is very difficult for them to understand.		Gorgeousness. They want gorgeousness. And people come to show them gorgeousness to cheat. Because although it is not possible to perform properly ''yajña'', but people are . . . want that, so there are many cheaters. They say: "Oh, this ''yajña'', that ''yajña'', that ''yajña''," and people will be attracted. ''Jaḍi-kṛta-matiḥ'', materialized. Their brain cannot accommodate that the Hare Kṛṣṇa, this Kṛṣṇa name, is Kṛṣṇa. It is very difficult for them to understand.

	Guest (Indian man): Just you have told by chanting holy name one can attain the ''sattva-guṇa'' standard.		'''Guest (Indian man):''' Just you have told by chanting holy name one can attain the ''sattva-guṇa'' standard.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.