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	We can experiment, or verify, this knowledge even in this life. The same example: I was existing in my childhood body, I was existing in my boyhood body, I was existing in my youthhood body. The body is changing, but I am there. So I will exist when this body is changing. Is there any difficulty to understand?		We can experiment, or verify, this knowledge even in this life. The same example: I was existing in my childhood body, I was existing in my boyhood body, I was existing in my youthhood body. The body is changing, but I am there. So I will exist when this body is changing. Is there any difficulty to understand?

	'''Guest:''' (indistinct) . . . so one who then exists when the body is dead . . . (indistinct) ~~. . .?~~		'''Guest:''' (indistinct) . . . so one who then exists when the body is dead . . . (indistinct)

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' He is asking if God still exists.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' He is asking if God still exists.
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	This is very simple fact; try to understand. This is the first beginning of spiritual education. Unless one understands that spirit soul is everlasting, ''nityaḥśāśvato 'yaṁ'', ''na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre'' . . . ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]) That is the description in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', that the spirit soul is eternal; it does not annihilate after the annihilation of this body. And this spirit soul has no beginning. The spirit soul is part and parcel of God. As God is ever-existing, similarly, the spirit soul is ever-existing. Just like as the sun is existing, the sunshine is also existing.		This is very simple fact; try to understand. This is the first beginning of spiritual education. Unless one understands that spirit soul is everlasting, ''nityaḥśāśvato 'yaṁ'', ''na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre'' . . . ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]) That is the description in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', that the spirit soul is eternal; it does not annihilate after the annihilation of this body. And this spirit soul has no beginning. The spirit soul is part and parcel of God. As God is ever-existing, similarly, the spirit soul is ever-existing. Just like as the sun is existing, the sunshine is also existing.

	The example of the spirit soul is like the molecular parts in the sunshine. The sunshine is combination of so many atomic shining particles. This is natural. They are different. The sun-shining particles, they are different. But because they are combined together . . . ~~Everything~~ is atomic combination—in water also; in land also—similarly, the sunshine is combination of molecules, shining molecular parts. So as the sun is existing, the sunshine is also existing. Similarly, as God is existing, the part and parcel of God, shining particles, spirit souls, they are also existing. They are also existing.		The example of the spirit soul is like the molecular parts in the sunshine. The sunshine is combination of so many atomic shining particles. This is natural. They are different. The sun-shining particles, they are different. But because they are combined together . . . everything is atomic combination—in water also; in land also—similarly, the sunshine is combination of molecules, shining molecular parts. So as the sun is existing, the sunshine is also existing. Similarly, as God is existing, the part and parcel of God, shining particles, spirit souls, they are also existing. They are also existing.

	So clear this part. Any one of you, first of all clear this part. That is the first stage for advancing in spiritual education. What is the difficulty in understanding?		So clear this part. Any one of you, first of all clear this part. That is the first stage for advancing in spiritual education. What is the difficulty in understanding?
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	:''nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām''		:''nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām''
	:''eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān''		:''eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān''
	:(''Kaṭha Upaniṣad'' 2.2.13)		:(Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13)

	These are Vedic injunctions. As you have got a spiritual body, very small, similarly the Personality of Godhead, He has got a spiritual body. (aside) You are going?		These are Vedic injunctions. As you have got a spiritual body, very small, similarly the Personality of Godhead, He has got a spiritual body. (aside) You are going?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' But sometimes they fall out of the fire, and when it is out of the fire, it is no longer fire; it is extinguished. Is it not? You have seen in so many fireplace a ''phut! phut!'' There are so many sparks. And as soon as the spark out of the fire it is extinguished. A minute before it was fire, but as soon as it falls down, separated from the fire, it is no longer fire. It is fire, but the potency of fire, illumination is gone.		'''Prabhupāda:''' But sometimes they fall out of the fire, and when it is out of the fire, it is no longer fire; it is extinguished. Is it not? You have seen in so many fireplace a ''phut! phut!'' There are so many sparks. And as soon as the spark out of the fire it is extinguished. A minute before it was fire, but as soon as it falls down, separated from the fire, it is no longer fire. It is fire, but the potency of fire, illumination is gone.

	Similarly . . .		Similarly . . . (aside) Come on.

	(aside) Come on.

	Similarly, we are also fire, but as soon as we have separated from God, our that fire quality, illuminative quality, is lost, the spiritual illuminative quality. But it can be revived if that spark, that particle of coal or carbon, if it is again put into the fire it will be fire. It will become fire.		Similarly, we are also fire, but as soon as we have separated from God, our that fire quality, illuminative quality, is lost, the spiritual illuminative quality. But it can be revived if that spark, that particle of coal or carbon, if it is again put into the fire it will be fire. It will become fire.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Different minds, that the constitution of mind. Just like my . . . you are sitting here, but others, they left. The mind dictated, "Oh, what is the use of sitting?" They cannot utilize the situation. So that is the business of the mind: accepting and rejecting. We sometimes accept something which we like, and we sometimes reject if we do not like. That is the way of mind. Mind's constitutional position is like that: accepting and rejecting. And that we are doing. We are accepting so many things and rejecting again. This acceptance and rejection is going on perpetually, being controlled by the mind.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Different minds, that the constitution of mind. Just like my . . . you are sitting here, but others, they left. The mind dictated, "Oh, what is the use of sitting?" They cannot utilize the situation. So that is the business of the mind: accepting and rejecting. We sometimes accept something which we like, and we sometimes reject if we do not like. That is the way of mind. Mind's constitutional position is like that: accepting and rejecting. And that we are doing. We are accepting so many things and rejecting again. This acceptance and rejection is going on perpetually, being controlled by the mind.

	But when you become controller of the mind, then your life is successful. That is called in Sanskrit word ''svāmī'', ''gosvāmī''. At the present moment we are being controlled by the senses and the mind, and when you become actually the controller of the mind and senses . . . ~~Just~~ like a gentleman has got good business, and he has given all power to the manager.		But when you become controller of the mind, then your life is successful. That is called in Sanskrit word ''svāmī'', ''gosvāmī''. At the present moment we are being controlled by the senses and the mind, and when you become actually the controller of the mind and senses . . . just like a gentleman has got good business, and he has given all power to the manager.

	The manager has become so powerful that he is trying to control over the master. But if the master becomes strong and controls over the manager, then it is nice. And if the master becomes indolent and is controlled by the manager, then it is dangerous.		The manager has become so powerful that he is trying to control over the master. But if the master becomes strong and controls over the manager, then it is nice. And if the master becomes indolent and is controlled by the manager, then it is dangerous.
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	So if we study all these statements in the Vedic literature then we come to the light. These are the facts. So human life is meant for this purpose—understanding. It is not meant for imitating or being carried off by the propensities, like the animals. The animals have no other business than how to eat, how to sleep, how to have sense enjoyment and how to defend. That is animal life. Animals are very much busy, "Where is eating? Where I shall eat? Where I shall . . .? Where I can stay? So how can I defend? How can I mate? How can I have sex life?" These are the complete occupation of the mind and senses of the animals.		So if we study all these statements in the Vedic literature then we come to the light. These are the facts. So human life is meant for this purpose—understanding. It is not meant for imitating or being carried off by the propensities, like the animals. The animals have no other business than how to eat, how to sleep, how to have sense enjoyment and how to defend. That is animal life. Animals are very much busy, "Where is eating? Where I shall eat? Where I shall . . .? Where I can stay? So how can I defend? How can I mate? How can I have sex life?" These are the complete occupation of the mind and senses of the animals.

	But in the human form of life there must be something extra; therefore we find in human society there is some attempt for understanding God, and that is called religion. ''Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyam'' ([[BG 15.15 (1972)\|BG 15.15]]). The ''Vedas'' are giving instruction. But what is the purpose of ''Vedas''? The purpose of ''Vedas'' is to understand God, ''athāto brahma jijñāsā'' (''Vedānta-sūtra'' 1.1.1), the ''Vedānta-sūtra'', first verse.		But in the human form of life there must be something extra; therefore we find in human society there is some attempt for understanding God, and that is called religion. ''Vedaiś ca sarvair aham eva vedyam'' ([[BG 15.15 (1972)\|BG 15.15]]). The ''Vedas'' are giving instruction. But what is the purpose of ''Vedas''? The purpose of ''Vedas'' is to understand God, ''athāto brahma jijñāsā'' (Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.1), the ''Vedānta-sūtra'', first verse.

	The human body should be utilized properly. It is a chance, otherwise, which glides down again into the circle. If we remain in the circle . . . just like this morning I was explaining, there is a circle; it begins from here. So you are advancing, you are advancing, but if you remain in the same circle, that means advancing means again come to the same point.		The human body should be utilized properly. It is a chance, otherwise, which glides down again into the circle. If we remain in the circle . . . just like this morning I was explaining, there is a circle; it begins from here. So you are advancing, you are advancing, but if you remain in the same circle, that means advancing means again come to the same point.
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	"But I am also ''kṣetra-jñaṁ''. I am also present in every body." That is Supersoul, or big soul.		"But I am also ''kṣetra-jñaṁ''. I am also present in every body." That is Supersoul, or big soul.

	So just like there are two souls: big soul and a small soul. The small souls we are, and big soul is God. Big means all-pervading. God knows what you are thinking, what you are feeling; but I cannot know what you're thinking, what you are feeling. Therefore I am small soul and God is the big soul. Just like I may be proprietor of this house, and you may be proprietor of that house, but the state is proprietor of everything—so there is big proprietor, the king. Similarly we are soul, God is soul, ''nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām'' (''Kaṭha Upaniṣad'' 2.2.13). ''Cetanā'' means living; ''nitya'' means eternal. We are all living and eternal. God is also living and eternal, but ''eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān'', but that one maintains all the small.		So just like there are two souls: big soul and a small soul. The small souls we are, and big soul is God. Big means all-pervading. God knows what you are thinking, what you are feeling; but I cannot know what you're thinking, what you are feeling. Therefore I am small soul and God is the big soul. Just like I may be proprietor of this house, and you may be proprietor of that house, but the state is proprietor of everything—so there is big proprietor, the king. Similarly we are soul, God is soul, ''nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). ''Cetanā'' means living; ''nitya'' means eternal. We are all living and eternal. God is also living and eternal, but ''eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān'', but that one maintains all the small.

	So God has provided food for everyone, all living entities. There are hundreds and thousands of living entities other than human beings. They have no business, they have no profession, but they have no economic problem. You may have never seen that a bird has died fasting or without food, or elephant has died without food. The elephant eats at a time hundred pounds, but he has got eating arrangement by God. The ant is eating only one grain, and it has got also arrangement.		So God has provided food for everyone, all living entities. There are hundreds and thousands of living entities other than human beings. They have no business, they have no profession, but they have no economic problem. You may have never seen that a bird has died fasting or without food, or elephant has died without food. The elephant eats at a time hundred pounds, but he has got eating arrangement by God. The ant is eating only one grain, and it has got also arrangement.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is God. ''Eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān'' (''Kaṭha Upaniṣad'' 2.2.13). ''Kāmān'' means all things I want. So Kṛṣṇa is supplying, God is supplying. We require sufficient water, so there are oceans, there are seas, stocked, and the water is salty so that it may not decompose. And the sun is engaged to evaporate the water and make it cloud and distribute all over the globe. And it is stored on the mountain, just like tank, and it is coming down like pipe, rivers. Every element is there. ''Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvaṁ'' ([[ISO 1\|ISO 1]]): everything is being controlled by God.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is God. ''Eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). ''Kāmān'' means all things I want. So Kṛṣṇa is supplying, God is supplying. We require sufficient water, so there are oceans, there are seas, stocked, and the water is salty so that it may not decompose. And the sun is engaged to evaporate the water and make it cloud and distribute all over the globe. And it is stored on the mountain, just like tank, and it is coming down like pipe, rivers. Every element is there. ''Īśāvāsyam idaṁ sarvaṁ'' ([[ISO 1\|ISO 1]]): everything is being controlled by God.

	:''pūrṇam idaṁ pūrṇam adaḥ''		:''pūrṇam idaṁ pūrṇam adaḥ''
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	Mahātmā means he is under the spiritual nature, ''daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''. And what is the symptom? ''Bhajanty ananya'': he has no more business except serving Kṛṣṇa. He does not want anything more. ''Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha'', ''daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ bhajanty''. To keep oneself under the protection of spiritual nature means he becomes liberated; he has no other aim. ''Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha'', ''daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''.		Mahātmā means he is under the spiritual nature, ''daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''. And what is the symptom? ''Bhajanty ananya'': he has no more business except serving Kṛṣṇa. He does not want anything more. ''Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha'', ''daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ bhajanty''. To keep oneself under the protection of spiritual nature means he becomes liberated; he has no other aim. ''Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha'', ''daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''.

	'''Guest:''' I have got another question. This is, or is not so . . . I read in a certain book that a . . . say first of all taking into consideration that life . . . (indistinct) . . . in other planets apart from theirs . . . (indistinct) . . . I read in a certain book that these people, they normally visit earth . . . (indistinct) . . . whether it is true or not I don't know, but I have heard it. . . . (indistinct) . . . (break)		'''Guest:''' I have got another question. This is, or is not so . . . I read in a certain book that a . . . say first of all taking into consideration that life . . . (indistinct) . . . in other planets apart from theirs . . . (indistinct) . . . I read in a certain book that these people, they normally visit earth . . . (indistinct) . . . whether it is true or not I don't know, but I have heard it . . . (indistinct) . . . (break)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . residents of those, that planet, they can fly, and they can go from one planet to another. Just like ''siddha-loka''. By mystic perfection in ''yoga'' you can do that also. ''Aṇimā'', ''laghimā siddhi''—you become light.		'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . residents of those, that planet, they can fly, and they can go from one planet to another. Just like ''siddha-loka''. By mystic perfection in ''yoga'' you can do that also. ''Aṇimā'', ''laghimā siddhi''—you become light.
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	'''Guest (2):''' Most essential; an essential animal. Therefore I . . . more respect with me.		'''Guest (2):''' Most essential; an essential animal. Therefore I . . . more respect with me.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' In the prayers of Kṛṣṇa it is said, ''namo brahmaṇya-devāya go-brāhmaṇa-hitāya'' (''Viṣṇu Purāṇa'' 1.19.65). Why especially the cow's name is there? When Kṛṣṇa, when He was present on this planet, He remained as a cowherds boy in His childhood. He gave protection to the cows. So it is the essential part of civilization.		'''Prabhupāda:''' In the prayers of Kṛṣṇa it is said, ''namo brahmaṇya-devāya go-brāhmaṇa-hitāya'' (Viṣṇu Purāṇa 1.19.65). Why especially the cow's name is there? When Kṛṣṇa, when He was present on this planet, He remained as a cowherds boy in His childhood. He gave protection to the cows. So it is the essential part of civilization.

	'''Guest:''' He protect the . . . all animals?		'''Guest:''' He protect the . . . all animals?

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