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Visnu Murti at 09:45, 13 January 2026

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	'''Śyāmasundara:''' Because they promise something they don't deliver?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Because they promise something they don't deliver?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no. Even if you get it, what do you get? You go to . . . ~~supposed~~ you go to church: "God, give us our daily bread." God is giving, then what do you get? Bread is given to the animals also. Why you are going to the church? That is the Communist say that, "We shall give you bread. Why you waste your time with so-called religion?" The politician says that "You want to be happy, there is technology.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no. Even if you get it, what do you get? You go to . . . suppose you go to church: "God, give us our daily bread." God is giving, then what do you get? Bread is given to the animals also. Why you are going to the church? That is the Communist say that, "We shall give you bread. Why you waste your time with so-called religion?" The politician says that "You want to be happy, there is technology. Why you are going to pray to God? This is all nonsense." They are thinking that. But prayer is not meant for that purpose. Prayer . . . just like we are praying, but our prayer is, "Kṛṣṇa, kindly engage me in Your service," Hare Kṛṣṇa. "O the energy of Kṛṣṇa, O the Lord Kṛṣṇa, please engage me in Your service." This is our prayer. We are not going to pray, "O God, give us our daily bread." And if you get bread, then what do you gain?

	Why you are going to pray to God? This is all nonsense." They are thinking that. But prayer is not meant for that purpose. Prayer . . . just like we are praying, but our prayer is, "Kṛṣṇa, kindly engage me in Your service," Hare Kṛṣṇa. "O the energy of Kṛṣṇa, O the Lord Kṛṣṇa, please engage me in Your service." This is our prayer. We are not going to pray, "O God, give us our daily bread." And if you get bread, then what do you gain?

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' We've all experienced that. We've had so much bread. What did we get?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' We've all experienced that. We've had so much bread. What did we get?

RasaRasika at 04:24, 20 December 2023

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	The whole program is to create some fools and rascals, that's all. Any philosopher, any scientist comes, I can say that, "You are simply creating fools and rascals, because you are also fools and rascals." I can say, challenge. Then let us come to argument. "You are such a fool and rascal, and you are creating fools and rascals, that's all. That is your business." And that is going on as the advancement of education. You do not know. What do you . . . how do you explain? You say nature. That means you are fool.		The whole program is to create some fools and rascals, that's all. Any philosopher, any scientist comes, I can say that, "You are simply creating fools and rascals, because you are also fools and rascals." I can say, challenge. Then let us come to argument. "You are such a fool and rascal, and you are creating fools and rascals, that's all. That is your business." And that is going on as the advancement of education. You do not know. What do you . . . how do you explain? You say nature. That means you are fool.

	We have got our explanation: Kṛṣṇa. His energy is working. ''Svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca'' (''Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad'' 6.8). His energy is so fine and nice that automatically it appears that the color has come, the painting has come, but there is working, very fine work, working. The modern science, you want to talk with a friend, immediately you pay something, telephone, "Yes, I am speaking." Actually the man is there, he is talking and I am hearing, but by scientific arrangement it is so that he is thousand miles away, just like speaking with him. But he has come before me. Although he is away thousand miles, it appears that he has come before me and talking.		We have got our explanation: Kṛṣṇa. His energy is working. ''Svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca'' (Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 6.8). His energy is so fine and nice that automatically it appears that the color has come, the painting has come, but there is working, very fine work, working. The modern science, you want to talk with a friend, immediately you pay something, telephone, "Yes, I am speaking." Actually the man is there, he is talking and I am hearing, but by scientific arrangement it is so that he is thousand miles away, just like speaking with him. But he has come before me. Although he is away thousand miles, it appears that he has come before me and talking.

	So if this energy, electric energy, can work so wonderful, how much wonderful energies are there in Kṛṣṇa that He is working and it is coming out, automatically. You say . . . cannot explain, you will say it is nature. No. The same working is there. Just like if you paint one flower, you have to take the brush, color, and nicely . . . you cannot do as nice. So Kṛṣṇa has also to do the same thing, but the energy is so fine and quick, ''svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca''. Kṛṣṇa's energies will go on. Just like if you want to create something, a house, you have to apply your engineer, your contractor, the ingredients. But Kṛṣṇa also will do the same thing. But His energies are so fine and expert, He desires, "Let there be a skyscraper," immediately there is. But the process is there. Don't think it has come automatically.		So if this energy, electric energy, can work so wonderful, how much wonderful energies are there in Kṛṣṇa that He is working and it is coming out, automatically. You say . . . cannot explain, you will say it is nature. No. The same working is there. Just like if you paint one flower, you have to take the brush, color, and nicely . . . you cannot do as nice. So Kṛṣṇa has also to do the same thing, but the energy is so fine and quick, ''svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca''. Kṛṣṇa's energies will go on. Just like if you want to create something, a house, you have to apply your engineer, your contractor, the ingredients. But Kṛṣṇa also will do the same thing. But His energies are so fine and expert, He desires, "Let there be a skyscraper," immediately there is. But the process is there. Don't think it has come automatically.
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	Just like if a man asks you one thousand dollar, he is thinking, "He has to collect and pay me." But if you write a note, give it to Nanda-kumāra, and he keeps it as check, and Nanda-kumāra pays immediately one thousand dollar. So he will be surprised, "How is that? What is this writing, this immediately one thousand dollar came?" Because he is thinking, "To all one thousand dollar, it will take one thousand days, and Swāmījī wrote like this, and immediately." The process is there. One thousand dollar collection, I have to do something and it has come there, it is . . . but the energy is so quick, energy is so perfect, that simply by giving a note and he gets it. You cannot say the process is not there. The process is there.		Just like if a man asks you one thousand dollar, he is thinking, "He has to collect and pay me." But if you write a note, give it to Nanda-kumāra, and he keeps it as check, and Nanda-kumāra pays immediately one thousand dollar. So he will be surprised, "How is that? What is this writing, this immediately one thousand dollar came?" Because he is thinking, "To all one thousand dollar, it will take one thousand days, and Swāmījī wrote like this, and immediately." The process is there. One thousand dollar collection, I have to do something and it has come there, it is . . . but the energy is so quick, energy is so perfect, that simply by giving a note and he gets it. You cannot say the process is not there. The process is there.

	Just like modern scientific method has minimized space and time. For coming to Australia, fifty years ago it would have taken six months. Now we come six hours. The process coming is there. By scientific method, the space and time has been shortened. Similarly, in manufacturing this flower, the process is there; but the system of Kṛṣṇa's energy is so perfect, it has shortened. ''Parāsya śaktir vividhaiva . . . svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca'' (''Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad'' 6.8, [[CC Madhya 13.65\|CC Madhya 13.65, purport]]). Just like . . . what is that machine, IBM?		Just like modern scientific method has minimized space and time. For coming to Australia, fifty years ago it would have taken six months. Now we come six hours. The process coming is there. By scientific method, the space and time has been shortened. Similarly, in manufacturing this flower, the process is there; but the system of Kṛṣṇa's energy is so perfect, it has shortened. ''Parāsya śaktir vividhaiva . . . svābhāvikī jñāna-bala-kriyā ca'' (Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 6.8, [[CC Madhya 13.65\|CC Madhya 13.65, purport]]). Just like . . . what is that machine, IBM?

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' Computer.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Computer.

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	Śyāmasundara: They made a study. They know what's going . . . they want all of your books. In the contract for ''Topmost Yoga'' and ''Easy Journey'' they have the option to take your next big book.		Śyāmasundara: They made a study. They know what's going . . . they want all of your books. In the contract for ''Topmost Yoga'' and ''Easy Journey'' they have the option to take your next big book.

	Pradyumna: In Harvard Library, your ''Bhagavad-gītā''—they have many, many ''Bhagavad-gītās'', about four hundred, many—and ''Bhagavad-gītā'' ''As It Is'' was taken out, of late, since it's been in there, more than any other ones. They all have dust, and yours has been taken out. And ''Kṛṣṇa'' book, ''Kṛṣṇa'' book was never in. I could never see it in, because it was always out, from the very first day it was in. In fact, when it was going into the library, the head of the department, he took it right away.		'''Pradyumna:''' In Harvard Library, your ''Bhagavad-gītā''—they have many, many ''Bhagavad-gītās'', about four hundred, many—and ''Bhagavad-gītā'' ''As It Is'' was taken out, of late, since it's been in there, more than any other ones. They all have dust, and yours has been taken out. And ''Kṛṣṇa'' book, ''Kṛṣṇa'' book was never in. I could never see it in, because it was always out, from the very first day it was in. In fact, when it was going into the library, the head of the department, he took it right away.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Another thing happened in Los Angeles. I wanted some quotation from a place of this ''Teachings of Lord Caitanya''. So the man came, he said: "Swāmījī, first of all I must buy this book. Either you accept or not accept our quotation, what price I shall pay you?" I said: "Give me six dollars." Immediately he took this book. "Such a nice book I have never read. So either it is printed or not printed in our press, I must take this book." Actually, these ideas what we have explained in our books, they're unknown to the modern world. Unknown.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Another thing happened in Los Angeles. I wanted some quotation from a place of this ''Teachings of Lord Caitanya''. So the man came, he said: "Swāmījī, first of all I must buy this book. Either you accept or not accept our quotation, what price I shall pay you?" I said: "Give me six dollars." Immediately he took this book. "Such a nice book I have never read. So either it is printed or not printed in our press, I must take this book." Actually, these ideas what we have explained in our books, they're unknown to the modern world. Unknown.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.

	Pradyumna: They landed by ship in northern Australia, Perth, where our plane first landed that night.		'''Pradyumna:''' They landed by ship in northern Australia, Perth, where our plane first landed that night.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' He is very energetic.		'''Prabhupāda:''' He is very energetic.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.

	Pradyumna: He said aborigines live there.		'''Pradyumna:''' He said aborigines live there.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, they may attack.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, they may attack.
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	Śyāmasundara: Yes, semi-desert.		Śyāmasundara: Yes, semi-desert.

	Pradyumna: There are many strange animals in Australia.		'''Pradyumna:''' There are many strange animals in Australia.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Predators?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Predators?

	Pradyumna: Just strange. The marsupials.		'''Pradyumna:''' Just strange. The marsupials.

	Śyāmasundara: Those animals that bear their young in a pouch.		Śyāmasundara: Those animals that bear their young in a pouch.

	Pradyumna: The pouch here, kangaroo.		'''Pradyumna:''' The pouch here, kangaroo.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is kangaroo.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is kangaroo.
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	'''Devotee (1):''' Yeah, it's part . . . it has some snake features, it has webbed feet, it has a duck like a beaver, a body like a . . .		'''Devotee (1):''' Yeah, it's part . . . it has some snake features, it has webbed feet, it has a duck like a beaver, a body like a . . .

	Pradyumna: A tail like a beaver.		'''Pradyumna:''' A tail like a beaver.

	Śyāmasundara: A bill like a duck.		Śyāmasundara: A bill like a duck.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' You have kept there some other razor?		'''Prabhupāda:''' You have kept there some other razor?

	Nanda-kumāra: I have put yours back. Yours was in a bag I could not find immediately, so I put another one there, and now I've changed it back again. (break)		'''Nanda-kumāra:''' I have put yours back. Yours was in a bag I could not find immediately, so I put another one there, and now I've changed it back again. (break)

	Upendra: . . . at least half of the energy that you have to preach.		Upendra: . . . at least half of the energy that you have to preach.

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	'''Devotee (1):''' And platypuses.		'''Devotee (1):''' And platypuses.

	Devotee (4): And platypus, the platypus animal.		'''Devotee (4):''' And platypus, the platypus animal.

	Śyāmasundara: Half bird, half . . .		Śyāmasundara: Half bird, half . . .

	Devotee (4): Half snake.		'''Devotee (4):''' Half snake.

	Śyāmasundara: Under water.		Śyāmasundara: Under water.

	Devotee (4): Half beaver?		'''Devotee (4):''' Half beaver?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm, snake? Snake?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm, snake? Snake?

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, I desired that, "Such a wonderful message, why not preach?"		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, I desired that, "Such a wonderful message, why not preach?"

	Devotee (3): And you got buildings also.		'''Devotee (3):''' And you got buildings also.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Devotee (3): You got buildings . . .		'''Devotee (3):''' You got buildings . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Building automatically comes. But rascal fools, they do not understand this. That is mentioned in the . . . in ''bhakti'', other success follows. Just like when the queen goes, there are many maidservants catching the . . . what is called?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Building automatically comes. But rascal fools, they do not understand this. That is mentioned in the . . . in ''bhakti'', other success follows. Just like when the queen goes, there are many maidservants catching the . . . what is called?
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	Śyāmasundara: That's it, same, that art of striking someone if he is off balance a certain way.		Śyāmasundara: That's it, same, that art of striking someone if he is off balance a certain way.

	Devotee (3): Karate is the art of hitting your nerve points. You can paralyze people with it. Just with one finger hitting on a certain nerve junction, you can paralyze a person.		'''Devotee (3):''' Karate is the art of hitting your nerve points. You can paralyze people with it. Just with one finger hitting on a certain nerve junction, you can paralyze a person.

	Devotee (1): They do. They show movies of one man who has killed his nerves in the hand, and a bull will be running like this, and he can put his hand through the bull and grab the heart. They're like that. They show movies like that. They develop like that.		Devotee (1): They do. They show movies of one man who has killed his nerves in the hand, and a bull will be running like this, and he can put his hand through the bull and grab the heart. They're like that. They show movies like that. They develop like that.

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