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	So these foolish persons are taking as chance, but it is not chance. God is omnipotent. As soon as He understands that I want this, He gives me some facility so that I get it. So it is not chance. It is by arrangement of superior authority. But because they are atheist, they have no sense of God consciousness, they are taking as chance, that necessity creates that chance; automatically it is coming. Not automatically.		So these foolish persons are taking as chance, but it is not chance. God is omnipotent. As soon as He understands that I want this, He gives me some facility so that I get it. So it is not chance. It is by arrangement of superior authority. But because they are atheist, they have no sense of God consciousness, they are taking as chance, that necessity creates that chance; automatically it is coming. Not automatically.

	Chance does not mean automatically. I cannot see something, but all of a sudden falls . . . ~~j ust~~ like I am hungry, I want some food. So Kṛṣṇa knows it that you want some . . . some way or other, the food comes to me. So it is the arrangement of Kṛṣṇa, but I see it is chance: "I was hungry, and by chance the food has come." That is my less intelligence. It is not chance; it is plan. Otherwise, you cannot adjust the meaning of chance in that way, that as soon as there is necessity, immediately the opportune chance comes before us.		Chance does not mean automatically. I cannot see something, but all of a sudden falls . . . just like I am hungry, I want some food. So Kṛṣṇa knows it that you want some . . . some way or other, the food comes to me. So it is the arrangement of Kṛṣṇa, but I see it is chance: "I was hungry, and by chance the food has come." That is my less intelligence. It is not chance; it is plan. Otherwise, you cannot adjust the meaning of chance in that way, that as soon as there is necessity, immediately the opportune chance comes before us.

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' They say: "Well, it's my luck," or "My bad luck."		'''Śyāmasundara:''' They say: "Well, it's my luck," or "My bad luck."

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. We have not tried hundreds of others. There was a plan.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. We have not tried hundreds of others. There was a plan.

	Sudāmā: But even where does . . . in my mind, if I hear the word "chance," where does chance . . . how does chance come about, if there is such a thing?		'''Sudāmā:''' But even where does . . . in my mind, if I hear the word "chance," where does chance . . . how does chance come about, if there is such a thing?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. The rascal says that I am trying in so many ways; one of them by chance becomes favorable. But I am not working in so many ways. We had a plan, to come here, to preach. So according to that plan, we arranged with this man. And it is not chance; it is all prearranged. Where is that I am trying this way or that way? We are going to preach. There is a plan. So our men go before that, before my reaching there, and they make nice arrangement, nice apartment. Then they receive me. These are not chances. This is all prearranged, plan.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. The rascal says that I am trying in so many ways; one of them by chance becomes favorable. But I am not working in so many ways. We had a plan, to come here, to preach. So according to that plan, we arranged with this man. And it is not chance; it is all prearranged. Where is that I am trying this way or that way? We are going to preach. There is a plan. So our men go before that, before my reaching there, and they make nice arrangement, nice apartment. Then they receive me. These are not chances. This is all prearranged, plan.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Why they don't acknowledge? Everything is being done by plan. The rascal who is speaking like that, he is educated by a plan, by his parents. And therefore he is able now to talk nonsense and get the Nobel Prize for talking all these rascals. His education was planned.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Why they don't acknowledge? Everything is being done by plan. The rascal who is speaking like that, he is educated by a plan, by his parents. And therefore he is able now to talk nonsense and get the Nobel Prize for talking all these rascals. His education was planned.

	Sudāmā: Just like his book was planned, so now he is given the Nobel Prize. He won't say: "By chance I won."		'''Sudāmā:''' Just like his book was planned, so now he is given the Nobel Prize. He won't say: "By chance I won."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. His plan to misguide the people, that is a plan.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. His plan to misguide the people, that is a plan.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' At once. Yes. The newspaper said that, "Mr. such-and-such went to moon planet." Oh, immediately believe. See? A newspaper, ten-cent-worth newspaper. And in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' Kṛṣṇa says, ''yānti deva vratā devān'' ([[BG 9.25 (1972)\|BG 9.25]]): "One who can . . . one can go to the demigods' planet by worshiping them. You can go, ''yānti deva vratā devān'', as others. Similarly, one can come to Me by worshiping Me," ''mad yājino 'pi yānti mām''. So they never worshiped Candra, and how they can go to the Candra planet, moon planet? Then Kṛṣṇa is false. Kṛṣṇa is imperfect; they become perfect. They are defying Kṛṣṇa's instruction. They have gone to moon planet. Then our whole propaganda, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, becomes bogus. Therefore I always protest.		'''Prabhupāda:''' At once. Yes. The newspaper said that, "Mr. such-and-such went to moon planet." Oh, immediately believe. See? A newspaper, ten-cent-worth newspaper. And in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' Kṛṣṇa says, ''yānti deva vratā devān'' ([[BG 9.25 (1972)\|BG 9.25]]): "One who can . . . one can go to the demigods' planet by worshiping them. You can go, ''yānti deva vratā devān'', as others. Similarly, one can come to Me by worshiping Me," ''mad yājino 'pi yānti mām''. So they never worshiped Candra, and how they can go to the Candra planet, moon planet? Then Kṛṣṇa is false. Kṛṣṇa is imperfect; they become perfect. They are defying Kṛṣṇa's instruction. They have gone to moon planet. Then our whole propaganda, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, becomes bogus. Therefore I always protest.

	Sudāmā: They have not gone.		'''Sudāmā:''' They have not gone.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' They have not gone. We have got our test. I am speaking from the very beginning, "They have not gone." And practically you see, even if you have gone, what utility you have made? They are simply planning, again planning. "We shall get petrol from there. We shall have defense from there." Simply bluffing. Simply bluffing. The Americans should go to the moon planet to defend his country from the Russians. Just see. And we have to believe all these nonsense proposal. What defense they will do from there? Is it not the proposal? Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' They have not gone. We have got our test. I am speaking from the very beginning, "They have not gone." And practically you see, even if you have gone, what utility you have made? They are simply planning, again planning. "We shall get petrol from there. We shall have defense from there." Simply bluffing. Simply bluffing. The Americans should go to the moon planet to defend his country from the Russians. Just see. And we have to believe all these nonsense proposal. What defense they will do from there? Is it not the proposal? Yes.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	Sudāmā: In Russia?		'''Sudāmā:''' In Russia?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. And they are advertising equal facility to everyone, to the worker. The worker is still working. They are going, still walking on the street to go to the factory. So in this way the whole civilization is going on simply by bluffing. And because men are made śūdra class, they are believing. They are accepting this bluff. This is the position. Besides that, if you . . . even if you are able to give everyone nice building and nice motorcar . . . already a few motorcars you have got, there is scarcity of space, from practical point of view. Ninety-nine percent of the population, they do not possess. Or say 50%. So already 50% men possessing motorcars, it has created problem—where to park the motorcar? How to supply petrol?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. And they are advertising equal facility to everyone, to the worker. The worker is still working. They are going, still walking on the street to go to the factory. So in this way the whole civilization is going on simply by bluffing. And because men are made śūdra class, they are believing. They are accepting this bluff. This is the position. Besides that, if you . . . even if you are able to give everyone nice building and nice motorcar . . . already a few motorcars you have got, there is scarcity of space, from practical point of view. Ninety-nine percent of the population, they do not possess. Or say 50%. So already 50% men possessing motorcars, it has created problem—where to park the motorcar? How to supply petrol?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' They feel pleasure to remain as an urchin.		'''Prabhupāda:''' They feel pleasure to remain as an urchin.

	Sudāmā: As their father supplies them with money and motorcar.		'''Sudāmā:''' As their father supplies them with money and motorcar.

	'''Pradyumna:''' He built this house, and this house had a very nice view over the whole place. But another man built another building here. And now the view is . . . right next to, he built this building. That's why this apartment is vacant.		'''Pradyumna:''' He built this house, and this house had a very nice view over the whole place. But another man built another building here. And now the view is . . . right next to, he built this building. That's why this apartment is vacant.
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	'''Śyāmasundara:''' No one will live here. The apartments are vacant.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' No one will live here. The apartments are vacant.

	Sudāmā: He's losing money.		'''Sudāmā:''' He's losing money.

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' Someone has built in front of him.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Someone has built in front of him.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That we have . . . we say in our ''śāstra'' that this sense gratification facility is there to the hogs and dogs—better sense gratification. If you have to enjoy sex life, you'll have to find out some room. You see? Either you go to a hotel or have your own apartment, otherwise you cannot have sex life on the street, although you are too much lusty. But you have to arrange for it. But the dogs and hogs, they have no such restriction. Immediately, "Come on. Let us enjoy." So they are better, in better position for sense gratification.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That we have . . . we say in our ''śāstra'' that this sense gratification facility is there to the hogs and dogs—better sense gratification. If you have to enjoy sex life, you'll have to find out some room. You see? Either you go to a hotel or have your own apartment, otherwise you cannot have sex life on the street, although you are too much lusty. But you have to arrange for it. But the dogs and hogs, they have no such restriction. Immediately, "Come on. Let us enjoy." So they are better, in better position for sense gratification.

	Sudāmā: So better to become hog and dog.		'''Sudāmā:''' So better to become hog and dog.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The hog . . . the hog has no restriction, mother, sister or anyone. You have seen?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The hog . . . the hog has no restriction, mother, sister or anyone. You have seen?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Why? There are so many books, they are advocating that, "You can have sex life. It doesn't matter whether it is mother or sister or daughter. Why should be the restriction there? It is bodily necessity, that's all." They are advocating. There are so many books. You do not know? Huh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Why? There are so many books, they are advocating that, "You can have sex life. It doesn't matter whether it is mother or sister or daughter. Why should be the restriction there? It is bodily necessity, that's all." They are advocating. There are so many books. You do not know? Huh?

	Sudāmā: Yes, there are.		'''Sudāmā:''' Yes, there are.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, there are books. In India, what to speak of other, in India some European or American book was written on the theme that a man fell in love with his daughter. And that book is the greatest . . . highest selling book. What is that book? You know?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, there are books. In India, what to speak of other, in India some European or American book was written on the theme that a man fell in love with his daughter. And that book is the greatest . . . highest selling book. What is that book? You know?
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	'''Śyāmasundara:''' Lolita? There was one, Lolita it was called, about . . .		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Lolita? There was one, Lolita it was called, about . . .

	Sudāmā: The same theme.		'''Sudāmā:''' The same theme.

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' The same theme.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' The same theme.

	Sudāmā: It was also very popular in America.		'''Sudāmā:''' It was also very popular in America.

	'''Śyāmasundara:''' One of the most popular books of all. Some man and a twelve-year-old niece, nephew, daughter?		'''Śyāmasundara:''' One of the most popular books of all. Some man and a twelve-year-old niece, nephew, daughter?
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	'''Śyāmasundara:''' Nice girls, nicer, more beautiful girls will only go to the most beautiful apartment. So there is competition.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' Nice girls, nicer, more beautiful girls will only go to the most beautiful apartment. So there is competition.

	Sudāmā: Everyone is competing. Now the girls, they want handsome man, so man is trying to get his face fixed and buy new clothes and . . .		'''Sudāmā:''' Everyone is competing. Now the girls, they want handsome man, so man is trying to get his face fixed and buy new clothes and . . .

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Trying to keep himself young.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Trying to keep himself young.

	Sudāmā: Trying to keep himself young, yes.		'''Sudāmā:''' Trying to keep himself young, yes.

	'''Bhūrijana:''' So we must propagate your message very loud.		'''Bhūrijana:''' So we must propagate your message very loud.

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