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RasaRasika at 04:23, 14 December 2023

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	Sometimes the same Supreme Personality of Godhead is taking birth in a ''brāhmaṇa'' family, accepting the renounced order of life, and playing the part of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There appears to be some contradiction, that how is that the same person who as Kṛṣṇa is accepting the ecstasy of the gopīs?" The original says, uh, how should I put it? It says, ''ei kona virodhera sthala ei yei jini kṛṣṇa tini e gopi hoya te chen''.		Sometimes the same Supreme Personality of Godhead is taking birth in a ''brāhmaṇa'' family, accepting the renounced order of life, and playing the part of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There appears to be some contradiction, that how is that the same person who as Kṛṣṇa is accepting the ecstasy of the gopīs?" The original says, uh, how should I put it? It says, ''ei kona virodhera sthala ei yei jini kṛṣṇa tini e gopi hoya te chen''.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Gopī-bhava. Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī-kallola-magnau muhur'' (''Śrī Sad-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka'' verse 4).		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Gopī-bhava. Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī-kallola-magnau muhur'' (Śrī Sad-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka verse 4).

	'''Pradyumna:''' "There appears to be some contradiction"? That, uh . . .		'''Pradyumna:''' "There appears to be some contradiction"? That, uh . . .
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	:''piśācī pāile yena mati-cchanna haya''		:''piśācī pāile yena mati-cchanna haya''
	:''māyā-grasta jīvera se dāsa udāya''		:''māyā-grasta jīvera se dāsa udāya''
	:(''Prema Vivarta'' 1)		:(Prema Vivarta 1)

	Anyone who is infected with this material energy, he is just like a man ghostly haunted. You have any experience of ghostly haunted men? A ghost captures him?		Anyone who is infected with this material energy, he is just like a man ghostly haunted. You have any experience of ghostly haunted men? A ghost captures him?

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "''gopīs''" to "gopīs"

2023-12-03T05:55:13Z

Text replacement - "''gopīs''" to "gopīs"

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right.

	'''Pradyumna:''' And then, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' . . ."		'''Pradyumna:''' And then, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the gopīs . . ."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' And where is that plate?		'''Prabhupāda:''' And where is that plate?
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	'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yeah.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yeah.

	'''Pradyumna:''' So, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' did not take very much care for this form. They were not very much intimate . . ." No.		'''Pradyumna:''' So, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the gopīs did not take very much care for this form. They were not very much intimate . . ." No.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Interested"?		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Interested"?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Interested.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Interested.

	'''Pradyumna:''' Ah, "not very much interested." And just one more thing. It says that, er . . . you say, so far it talks about Lord Caitanya was experiencing these four forms of ''bhāva, vicāri bhāva'', and then, "So far as Lord Nītyānanda is concerned, He is in ecstasy of parental love, servitude and fraternal attraction. Similarly, Śrī Advaita Prabhu is both, the same, in both the ecstasies of . . . ecstasy of . . . the ecstatic position of fraternity and servitude." And then, uh, and then there was one more thing. It said: "Lord Cai . . . Kṛṣṇa, the same Absolute Truth is playing as Kṛṣṇa, the player of the flute, and dancing with the ''gopīs'', the color of Śyāmasundara, Kṛṣṇa.		'''Pradyumna:''' Ah, "not very much interested." And just one more thing. It says that, er . . . you say, so far it talks about Lord Caitanya was experiencing these four forms of ''bhāva, vicāri bhāva'', and then, "So far as Lord Nītyānanda is concerned, He is in ecstasy of parental love, servitude and fraternal attraction. Similarly, Śrī Advaita Prabhu is both, the same, in both the ecstasies of . . . ecstasy of . . . the ecstatic position of fraternity and servitude." And then, uh, and then there was one more thing. It said: "Lord Cai . . . Kṛṣṇa, the same Absolute Truth is playing as Kṛṣṇa, the player of the flute, and dancing with the gopīs, the color of Śyāmasundara, Kṛṣṇa.

	Sometimes the same Supreme Personality of Godhead is taking birth in a ''brāhmaṇa'' family, accepting the renounced order of life, and playing the part of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There appears to be some contradiction, that how is that the same person who as Kṛṣṇa is accepting the ecstasy of the ''gopīs''?" The original says, uh, how should I put it? It says, ''ei kona virodhera sthala ei yei jini kṛṣṇa tini e gopi hoya te chen''.		Sometimes the same Supreme Personality of Godhead is taking birth in a ''brāhmaṇa'' family, accepting the renounced order of life, and playing the part of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There appears to be some contradiction, that how is that the same person who as Kṛṣṇa is accepting the ecstasy of the gopīs?" The original says, uh, how should I put it? It says, ''ei kona virodhera sthala ei yei jini kṛṣṇa tini e gopi hoya te chen''.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Gopī-bhava. Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī-kallola-magnau muhur'' (''Śrī Sad-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka'' verse 4).		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Gopī-bhava. Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī-kallola-magnau muhur'' (''Śrī Sad-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka'' verse 4).
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' The mood of the ''gopī''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' The mood of the ''gopī''.

	'''Pradyumna:''' Oh. "There appears to be some contradiction that, how is it that the same person that, that Kṛṣṇa, the same person Kṛṣṇa, is accepting the ecstasy of the ''gopīs''?"		'''Pradyumna:''' Oh. "There appears to be some contradiction that, how is it that the same person that, that Kṛṣṇa, the same person Kṛṣṇa, is accepting the ecstasy of the gopīs?"

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm. Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm. Yes.

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Dr. Hauser:" to "'''Dr. Hauser:'''"

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RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Śyāmasundara:" to "'''Śyāmasundara:'''"

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' As soon as you say, I leave.		'''Prabhupāda:''' As soon as you say, I leave.

	Śyāmasundara: It's seven o'clock now.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' It's seven o'clock now.

	Dr. Hauser: It's seven now.		Dr. Hauser: It's seven now.

	Śyāmasundara: I have five minutes to.		'''Śyāmasundara:''' I have five minutes to.

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Why don't you come with us?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Why don't you come with us?
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	'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Does he speak on any special topic tonight? Is he speaking on any special topic tonight?		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Does he speak on any special topic tonight? Is he speaking on any special topic tonight?

	Śyāmasundara: No, I don't think he's . . . (indistinct) . . . (end)		'''Śyāmasundara:''' No, I don't think he's . . . (indistinct) . . . (end)

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Pradyumna:" to "'''Pradyumna:'''"

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	'''Devotee:''' Yes.		'''Devotee:''' Yes.

	Pradyumna: She says that, erm, it says, "The Lord . . . Lord Kṛṣṇa tasted four kinds of transcendental mellows in devotional service in His form of Śacīnandana, the son of Mother Śacī, and at last, in order to understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī's ecstatic love for Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Lord has assumed the form of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.		'''Pradyumna:''' She says that, erm, it says, "The Lord . . . Lord Kṛṣṇa tasted four kinds of transcendental mellows in devotional service in His form of Śacīnandana, the son of Mother Śacī, and at last, in order to understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī's ecstatic love for Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Lord has assumed the form of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

	Amongst all kinds of devotional mentality, the attitude of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is considered to be the superex . . . superexcellent. No other devotee than Kṛṣṇa Hims . . ." It says: "No other devotee than Kṛṣṇa Himself can assume such part to taste the ecstatic situation"? Part? " . . . to taste the ecstatic situation of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. Therefore, He, Himself, as Caitanya Mahāprabhu . . ."		Amongst all kinds of devotional mentality, the attitude of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is considered to be the superex . . . superexcellent. No other devotee than Kṛṣṇa Hims . . ." It says: "No other devotee than Kṛṣṇa Himself can assume such part to taste the ecstatic situation"? Part? " . . . to taste the ecstatic situation of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī. Therefore, He, Himself, as Caitanya Mahāprabhu . . ."
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	Pradyumna: When Śrī Cai . . . when, uh . . .		'''Pradyumna:''' When Śrī Cai . . . when, uh . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Where is that small?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Where is that small?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right.

	Pradyumna: And then, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' . . ."		'''Pradyumna:''' And then, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' . . ."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' And where is that plate?		'''Prabhupāda:''' And where is that plate?
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	'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yeah.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yeah.

	Pradyumna: So, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' did not take very much care for this form. They were not very much intimate . . ." No.		'''Pradyumna:''' So, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' did not take very much care for this form. They were not very much intimate . . ." No.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' "Interested"?		'''Prabhupāda:''' "Interested"?

	Pradyumna: And then it goes on at end of tape, and the, and the sentence got left off. It said in the . . . it said in the book in the trans . . . in the original Bengali, it says that they . . .		'''Pradyumna:''' And then it goes on at end of tape, and the, and the sentence got left off. It said in the . . . it said in the book in the trans . . . in the original Bengali, it says that they . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah.

	Pradyumna: . . . they did not make . . . they made obeisances to Nārāyaṇa, but then they, uh . . .		'''Pradyumna:''' . . . they did not make . . . they made obeisances to Nārāyaṇa, but then they, uh . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. It is Nārāyaṇa, that's all right . . . (indistinct)		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. It is Nārāyaṇa, that's all right . . . (indistinct)

	Pradyumna: So you say: "They did not take very much care for this form, but they were . . . showed respect, but they were not very much intimately . . ."?		'''Pradyumna:''' So you say: "They did not take very much care for this form, but they were . . . showed respect, but they were not very much intimately . . ."?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Interested.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Interested.

	Pradyumna: Ah, "not very much interested." And just one more thing. It says that, er . . . you say, so far it talks about Lord Caitanya was experiencing these four forms of ''bhāva, vicāri bhāva'', and then, "So far as Lord Nītyānanda is concerned, He is in ecstasy of parental love, servitude and fraternal attraction. Similarly, Śrī Advaita Prabhu is both, the same, in both the ecstasies of . . . ecstasy of . . . the ecstatic position of fraternity and servitude." And then, uh, and then there was one more thing. It said: "Lord Cai . . . Kṛṣṇa, the same Absolute Truth is playing as Kṛṣṇa, the player of the flute, and dancing with the ''gopīs'', the color of Śyāmasundara, Kṛṣṇa.		'''Pradyumna:''' Ah, "not very much interested." And just one more thing. It says that, er . . . you say, so far it talks about Lord Caitanya was experiencing these four forms of ''bhāva, vicāri bhāva'', and then, "So far as Lord Nītyānanda is concerned, He is in ecstasy of parental love, servitude and fraternal attraction. Similarly, Śrī Advaita Prabhu is both, the same, in both the ecstasies of . . . ecstasy of . . . the ecstatic position of fraternity and servitude." And then, uh, and then there was one more thing. It said: "Lord Cai . . . Kṛṣṇa, the same Absolute Truth is playing as Kṛṣṇa, the player of the flute, and dancing with the ''gopīs'', the color of Śyāmasundara, Kṛṣṇa.

	Sometimes the same Supreme Personality of Godhead is taking birth in a ''brāhmaṇa'' family, accepting the renounced order of life, and playing the part of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There appears to be some contradiction, that how is that the same person who as Kṛṣṇa is accepting the ecstasy of the ''gopīs''?" The original says, uh, how should I put it? It says, ''ei kona virodhera sthala ei yei jini kṛṣṇa tini e gopi hoya te chen''.		Sometimes the same Supreme Personality of Godhead is taking birth in a ''brāhmaṇa'' family, accepting the renounced order of life, and playing the part of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. There appears to be some contradiction, that how is that the same person who as Kṛṣṇa is accepting the ecstasy of the ''gopīs''?" The original says, uh, how should I put it? It says, ''ei kona virodhera sthala ei yei jini kṛṣṇa tini e gopi hoya te chen''.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Gopī-bhava. Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī-kallola-magnau muhur'' (''Śrī Sad-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka'' verse 4).		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Gopī-bhava. Gopī-bhāva-rasāmṛtābdhi-laharī-kallola-magnau muhur'' (''Śrī Sad-gosvāmy-aṣṭaka'' verse 4).

	Pradyumna: "There appears to be some contradiction"? That, uh . . .		'''Pradyumna:''' "There appears to be some contradiction"? That, uh . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' What is that? ''Gopī-bhāva'', not ''gopī''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' What is that? ''Gopī-bhāva'', not ''gopī''.

	Pradyumna: Oh.		'''Pradyumna:''' Oh.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' The mood of the ''gopī''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' The mood of the ''gopī''.

	Pradyumna: Oh. "There appears to be some contradiction that, how is it that the same person that, that Kṛṣṇa, the same person Kṛṣṇa, is accepting the ecstasy of the ''gopīs''?"		'''Pradyumna:''' Oh. "There appears to be some contradiction that, how is it that the same person that, that Kṛṣṇa, the same person Kṛṣṇa, is accepting the ecstasy of the ''gopīs''?"

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm. Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm. Yes.

	Pradyumna: And then it said: "This is of course very difficult for an ordinary person to understand, but we accept the inconceivable energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, everything is possible."		'''Pradyumna:''' And then it said: "This is of course very difficult for an ordinary person to understand, but we accept the inconceivable energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, everything is possible."

	(pause)		(pause)

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "Śrutakīrti:" to "'''Śrutakīrti:'''"

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Where is that small?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Where is that small?

	Śrutakīrti: Spoon?		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Spoon?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	Śrutakīrti: Maybe, it may be in the bag.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Maybe, it may be in the bag.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' And where is that plate?		'''Prabhupāda:''' And where is that plate?

	Śrutakīrti: That I have also.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' That I have also.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Why is it? Keep it here.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Why is it? Keep it here.

	Śrutakīrti: Yeah.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yeah.

	Pradyumna: So, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' did not take very much care for this form. They were not very much intimate . . ." No.		Pradyumna: So, "When Śrī Kṛṣṇa assumed the form of four-handed Nārāyaṇa, the ''gopīs'' did not take very much care for this form. They were not very much intimate . . ." No.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So, when you have to go?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So, when you have to go?

	Śrutakīrti: Oh, I think we'll be leaving at six-thirty.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Oh, I think we'll be leaving at six-thirty.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' The man has not yet come?		'''Prabhupāda:''' The man has not yet come?

	Śrutakīrti: The guest is here. Yes. He's waiting now.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' The guest is here. Yes. He's waiting now.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So, let him come.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So, let him come.

	Śrutakīrti: Yeah.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yeah.

	'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, this gentleman is Dr. Christian . . .		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, this gentleman is Dr. Christian . . .
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh. Johannesburg. What is called? South America. Oh, South Africa.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh. Johannesburg. What is called? South America. Oh, South Africa.

	Śrutakīrti: South America.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' South America.

	'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Oh, Johannesburg is South Africa. Yeah.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Oh, Johannesburg is South Africa. Yeah.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Śrutakīrti: Caracas also.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Caracas also.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Caracas.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Caracas.
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	(aside) Find out this verse, ''tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ''. Yes, first of all you see the index?		(aside) Find out this verse, ''tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ''. Yes, first of all you see the index?

	Śrutakīrti: What, this?		'''Śrutakīrti:''' What, this?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yellow book, you know.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yellow book, you know.

	Śrutakīrti: First Canto.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' First Canto.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. ''Tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. ''Tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ''.

	Śrutakīrti: ''Tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ''? 236.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' ''Tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavaḥ''? 236.

	:''tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavo''		:''tad-vāg-visargo janatāgha-viplavo''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Read it again.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Read it again.

	Śrutakīrti: "On the other hand, that literature which is full of descriptions of the transcendental glories of the name, fame, form, pastimes, etc., of the unlimited Supreme Lord is a different creation, full of transcendental words directed toward bringing about a revolution in the impious lives of the world's misdirected civilization. Such transcendental literatures, even though imperfectly composed, are heard, sung and accepted by purified men who are thoroughly honest."		'''Śrutakīrti:''' "On the other hand, that literature which is full of descriptions of the transcendental glories of the name, fame, form, pastimes, etc., of the unlimited Supreme Lord is a different creation, full of transcendental words directed toward bringing about a revolution in the impious lives of the world's misdirected civilization. Such transcendental literatures, even though imperfectly composed, are heard, sung and accepted by purified men who are thoroughly honest."

	Dr. Hauser: Um-huh. Yes.		Dr. Hauser: Um-huh. Yes.
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	But he has no faith in God. He thinks Prabhu Hitler is greater than Lord. Prabhu Hitler. That is the difference between the crows and the swans. The crows think that we have got food in the garbage. And the swans think that we have got food in nice garden, in the clear water. And that is the difference, even in the birds kingdom. That is explained in the previous verse. ''Na tad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo, pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham'' ([[SB 1.5.10\|SB 1.5.10]]). Read that, previous to this verse.		But he has no faith in God. He thinks Prabhu Hitler is greater than Lord. Prabhu Hitler. That is the difference between the crows and the swans. The crows think that we have got food in the garbage. And the swans think that we have got food in nice garden, in the clear water. And that is the difference, even in the birds kingdom. That is explained in the previous verse. ''Na tad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo, pragṛṇīta karhicit, tad vāyasaṁ tīrtham'' ([[SB 1.5.10\|SB 1.5.10]]). Read that, previous to this verse.

	Śrutakīrti:		'''Śrutakīrti:'''

	:''na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo''		:''na yad vacaś citra-padaṁ harer yaśo''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Niramanty uśik-kṣayāḥ.'' Translation.		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Niramanty uśik-kṣayāḥ.'' Translation.

	Śrutakīrti: "Those words which do not describe the glories of the Lord, who alone can sanctify the atmosphere of the whole universe, are considered by saintly persons to be like unto a place of pilgrimage for crows. Since the all-perfect persons are inhabitants of the transcendental abode, they do not derive any pleasure there."		'''Śrutakīrti:''' "Those words which do not describe the glories of the Lord, who alone can sanctify the atmosphere of the whole universe, are considered by saintly persons to be like unto a place of pilgrimage for crows. Since the all-perfect persons are inhabitants of the transcendental abode, they do not derive any pleasure there."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. It is a question of taste. Just see birds, two kinds of birds, crows and the swans, different taste. Therefore we are trying to create taste for Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then these crows' place, newspaper, will not . . . we don't read newspaper. We don't touch it unless there is some news of ours. (laughs) We don't touch it. What is the use of wasting time?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. It is a question of taste. Just see birds, two kinds of birds, crows and the swans, different taste. Therefore we are trying to create taste for Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Then these crows' place, newspaper, will not . . . we don't read newspaper. We don't touch it unless there is some news of ours. (laughs) We don't touch it. What is the use of wasting time?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, if you do. (laughter) We have got the . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, if you do. (laughter) We have got the . . .

	Śrutakīrti: You can do that.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' You can do that.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Some Sanskrit scholar in Swedish language must come forward. Then it can be done. But he must be a good scholar, because each word is meaningful. Yes. Just like beginning of the ''Bhāgavata, janmādi asya'' ([[SB 1.1.1\|SB 1.1.1]]). ''Janmādi''. Now this one word has volumes of meaning. ''Janmādi'' means beginning from ''janma''. So beginning from ''janma'', birth, how many things are there? Generally, birth, ''janmastiti-lata'', birth, then you stay for some time and then you become vanquished. This body. ''Janmādi asya. Asya,'' "of this material world." ''Janma'', creation, then situation, then annihilation. Now how many volumes of books you can write on these three words? How this universe was created, how it is being maintained and how it will be annihilated—these three words. How many books you can write?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Some Sanskrit scholar in Swedish language must come forward. Then it can be done. But he must be a good scholar, because each word is meaningful. Yes. Just like beginning of the ''Bhāgavata, janmādi asya'' ([[SB 1.1.1\|SB 1.1.1]]). ''Janmādi''. Now this one word has volumes of meaning. ''Janmādi'' means beginning from ''janma''. So beginning from ''janma'', birth, how many things are there? Generally, birth, ''janmastiti-lata'', birth, then you stay for some time and then you become vanquished. This body. ''Janmādi asya. Asya,'' "of this material world." ''Janma'', creation, then situation, then annihilation. Now how many volumes of books you can write on these three words? How this universe was created, how it is being maintained and how it will be annihilated—these three words. How many books you can write?
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	(aside) You have got that verse? You show him.		(aside) You have got that verse? You show him.

	Śrutakīrti: Yes. Right here. (showing book to the psychiatrist) Here's the translation, the verse.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Yes. Right here. (showing book to the psychiatrist) Here's the translation, the verse.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is very short description.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is very short description.

	Śrutakīrti: Short. (laughs) Similarly for the next verse also.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Short. (laughs) Similarly for the next verse also.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So it is so meaningful. All learned scholars of the world must read ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'' if they want actually good for themselves and good for the world.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So it is so meaningful. All learned scholars of the world must read ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'' if they want actually good for themselves and good for the world.
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	'''Haṁsadūta:''' So the program actually . . .		'''Haṁsadūta:''' So the program actually . . .

	Śrutakīrti: If we can leave at seven o'clock, Śrīla Prabhupāda.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' If we can leave at seven o'clock, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' As soon as you say, I leave.		'''Prabhupāda:''' As soon as you say, I leave.
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	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Oh, I see.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Oh, I see.

	Śrutakīrti: Tomorrow morning Śrīla Prabhupāda's leaving at 8:30. If you'd like to come . . . he has a morning walk at six o'clock if you'd like to come for that.		'''Śrutakīrti:''' Tomorrow morning Śrīla Prabhupāda's leaving at 8:30. If you'd like to come . . . he has a morning walk at six o'clock if you'd like to come for that.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is not so important. Nobody can rise at six o'clock.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is not so important. Nobody can rise at six o'clock.

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	Śrutakīrti: Yeah.		Śrutakīrti: Yeah.

	Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, this gentleman is Dr. Christian . . .		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, this gentleman is Dr. Christian . . .

	'''Devotee:''' Hauser?		'''Devotee:''' Hauser?

	Paramahaṁsa: Oh, I see. And he's a very good friend of Gauracandra. He's a devotee from Amsterdam. And he's a professional psychiatrist.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Oh, I see. And he's a very good friend of Gauracandra. He's a devotee from Amsterdam. And he's a professional psychiatrist.

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Prabhupāda's just saying his ''mantra'', ''Gāyatrī''.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Prabhupāda's just saying his ''mantra'', ''Gāyatrī''.

	Paramahaṁsa: ''Jaya''.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' ''Jaya''.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So very glad to see you. (break)		'''Prabhupāda:''' So very glad to see you. (break)
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	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Psychiatric.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Psychiatric.

	Paramahaṁsa: Psychiatric movement.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Psychiatric movement.

	Dr. Hauser: Oh, yes, yes. In a way . . . I . . . yes.		Dr. Hauser: Oh, yes, yes. In a way . . . I . . . yes.
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	Śrutakīrti: South America.		Śrutakīrti: South America.

	Paramahaṁsa: Oh, Johannesburg is South Africa. Yeah.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Oh, Johannesburg is South Africa. Yeah.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You lived in South America?		'''Prabhupāda:''' You lived in South America?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Caracas.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Caracas.

	Paramahaṁsa: And Trinidad.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' And Trinidad.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Trinidad.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Trinidad.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. Human beings exist eternal. He's existing. But he accepting, he's accepting different situation.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. Human beings exist eternal. He's existing. But he accepting, he's accepting different situation.

	Paramahaṁsa: There's proof of this in that recently there was a discovery in South America—I think it was in Kenya—where they discovered a skeletal remains that were over hundreds of thousands of years old that was pre-, what is it? Mag . . . what is it?		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' There's proof of this in that recently there was a discovery in South America—I think it was in Kenya—where they discovered a skeletal remains that were over hundreds of thousands of years old that was pre-, what is it? Mag . . . what is it?

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Pre-magnon.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Pre-magnon.

	Paramahaṁsa: Pre-magnon, and it was the same human body as now, as we have now. They have discovered. And with this discovery, they say, completely all of Darwin's theories have been destroyed. This is a fact. Immediately, see. He overlooked. He says: "I do not see any proof that human beings lived millions of years ago. Therefore I think apes were existing." But what proof does he have? And now they have discovered bones, and they have proven by tests that Pre-magnon era there was the same human body. It's a fact. And completely his, all his theories have been destroyed. Because he again, he was working with his illusory senses.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Pre-magnon, and it was the same human body as now, as we have now. They have discovered. And with this discovery, they say, completely all of Darwin's theories have been destroyed. This is a fact. Immediately, see. He overlooked. He says: "I do not see any proof that human beings lived millions of years ago. Therefore I think apes were existing." But what proof does he have? And now they have discovered bones, and they have proven by tests that Pre-magnon era there was the same human body. It's a fact. And completely his, all his theories have been destroyed. Because he again, he was working with his illusory senses.

	Dr. Hauser: Hmm. But there are the dinosaurs, for example. The dinosaurs, yes, which died and disappeared from the earth. And that is also a kind of evolution that has taken place.		Dr. Hauser: Hmm. But there are the dinosaurs, for example. The dinosaurs, yes, which died and disappeared from the earth. And that is also a kind of evolution that has taken place.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. He believed in God. Yes. He believed in God. He was not a rascal. A sane man.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. He believed in God. Yes. He believed in God. He was not a rascal. A sane man.

	Paramahaṁsa: Carl Jung also.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Carl Jung also.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. He believed in God.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. He believed in God.
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	Dr. Hauser: Are you leaving for . . .		Dr. Hauser: Are you leaving for . . .

	Paramahaṁsa: Six-ten. We leave in ten, fifteen minutes. Would you care to go?		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Six-ten. We leave in ten, fifteen minutes. Would you care to go?

	Dr. Hauser: No, I have to go back to my, to this emergency ward. One of my colleagues was . . . were ill today, and I had to replace him.		Dr. Hauser: No, I have to go back to my, to this emergency ward. One of my colleagues was . . . were ill today, and I had to replace him.

	Paramahaṁsa: I see. As far as Nixon is concerned, we can see from his activities that he doesn't . . . he may say he's a believer in God, but his actions prove contrary. You see, that's . . . you see, you can judge a person by his activities. With someone like Śrīla Prabhupāda, you can judge that actually he is the only person I have ever met within my short span who is actually . . . (break)		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' I see. As far as Nixon is concerned, we can see from his activities that he doesn't . . . he may say he's a believer in God, but his actions prove contrary. You see, that's . . . you see, you can judge a person by his activities. With someone like Śrīla Prabhupāda, you can judge that actually he is the only person I have ever met within my short span who is actually . . . (break)

	Dr. Hauser: . . . I was also thinking that it was a little bit hard for me to get into the language, or the Indian words. And I felt that one has to be rather intellectually sharp to be able to go into these matters.		Dr. Hauser: . . . I was also thinking that it was a little bit hard for me to get into the language, or the Indian words. And I felt that one has to be rather intellectually sharp to be able to go into these matters.
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	Dr. Hauser: Thank you.		Dr. Hauser: Thank you.

	Paramahaṁsa: Does he speak on any special topic tonight? Is he speaking on any special topic tonight?		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' Does he speak on any special topic tonight? Is he speaking on any special topic tonight?

	Śyāmasundara: No, I don't think he's . . . (indistinct) . . . (end)		Śyāmasundara: No, I don't think he's . . . (indistinct) . . . (end)

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Somebody is coming?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Somebody is coming?

	Devotee: Yes.		'''Devotee:''' Yes.

	Pradyumna: She says that, erm, it says, "The Lord . . . Lord Kṛṣṇa tasted four kinds of transcendental mellows in devotional service in His form of Śacīnandana, the son of Mother Śacī, and at last, in order to understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī's ecstatic love for Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Lord has assumed the form of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.		Pradyumna: She says that, erm, it says, "The Lord . . . Lord Kṛṣṇa tasted four kinds of transcendental mellows in devotional service in His form of Śacīnandana, the son of Mother Śacī, and at last, in order to understand Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī's ecstatic love for Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Lord has assumed the form of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
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	Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, this gentleman is Dr. Christian . . .		Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, this gentleman is Dr. Christian . . .

	Devotee: Hauser?		'''Devotee:''' Hauser?

	Paramahaṁsa: Oh, I see. And he's a very good friend of Gauracandra. He's a devotee from Amsterdam. And he's a professional psychiatrist.		Paramahaṁsa: Oh, I see. And he's a very good friend of Gauracandra. He's a devotee from Amsterdam. And he's a professional psychiatrist.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Ocean.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ocean.

	Devotee: Ocean.		'''Devotee:''' Ocean.

	Dr. Hauser: Ocean.		Dr. Hauser: Ocean.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' We have got our temple in Mexico.		'''Prabhupāda:''' We have got our temple in Mexico.

	Devotee: And in Caracas.		'''Devotee:''' And in Caracas.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

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