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RasaRasika at 04:35, 14 December 2023

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	(sounds of people leaving and Śrīla Prabhupāda saying Hare Kṛṣṇa to individual people) You don't please worry. Hare Krsna. ''Jaya''. (break)		(sounds of people leaving and Śrīla Prabhupāda saying Hare Kṛṣṇa to individual people) You don't please worry. Hare Krsna. ''Jaya''. (break)

	Guest (2) (Indian man): . . . by working towards perfection in my duty . . .		'''Guest (2) (Indian man):''' . . . by working towards perfection in my duty . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that perfection is to please Kṛṣṇa. If by . . . you are doing everything, that's all right but if by your working Kṛṣṇa is satisfied, then that working is perfect. If Kṛṣṇa is not satisfied, then it is useless, waste of time.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that perfection is to please Kṛṣṇa. If by . . . you are doing everything, that's all right but if by your working Kṛṣṇa is satisfied, then that working is perfect. If Kṛṣṇa is not satisfied, then it is useless, waste of time.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no profit-making, no business that, "I give you something. I must have something from you." No, no. Love means without any desire, ''anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam'' (Brs. 1.1.11), without any motive. That is pure love. If I give you something without any motive, that is pure love.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no profit-making, no business that, "I give you something. I must have something from you." No, no. Love means without any desire, ''anyābhilāṣitā-śūnyam'' (Brs. 1.1.11), without any motive. That is pure love. If I give you something without any motive, that is pure love.

	Guest (3) (Indian man): (indistinct) . . . there are three factors: one, duty towards God, duty towards the family, duty towards the business, duty towards the country, duty towards the society. Then how is he to balance himself in these duties?		'''Guest (3) (Indian man):''' (indistinct) . . . there are three factors: one, duty towards God, duty towards the family, duty towards the business, duty towards the country, duty towards the society. Then how is he to balance himself in these duties?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Duty, there are so many duties. Therefore ''Bhagavad-gītā'' says:		'''Prabhupāda:''' Duty, there are so many duties. Therefore ''Bhagavad-gītā'' says:

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' God does not expect. It is for your good. If you are simply taking from God, now if you learn how to give God, that is your perfection. That is your perfection. Why God will ask from you? He is all-perfect. He does not want. He is not hungry. He is feeding millions of living entities. ''Eko yo bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). Why God will ask from you? But if you give your life to God, then you become perfect. God is not want of, in your service or anything. He is complete. If He is not complete, He is not God. These are all mental concoction. What you can do? What you have got to give charity?		'''Prabhupāda:''' God does not expect. It is for your good. If you are simply taking from God, now if you learn how to give God, that is your perfection. That is your perfection. Why God will ask from you? He is all-perfect. He does not want. He is not hungry. He is feeding millions of living entities. ''Eko yo bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). Why God will ask from you? But if you give your life to God, then you become perfect. God is not want of, in your service or anything. He is complete. If He is not complete, He is not God. These are all mental concoction. What you can do? What you have got to give charity?

	Guest (4) (Indian man): What is the position of man . . .		'''Guest (4) (Indian man):''' What is the position of man . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You are poor man. What you can give, charity? Why you are thinking that you can give in charity? Therefore God says, dadāsi yat: "If you are thinking to make some charity, give it to Me. Come on." Just like Bali Mahārāja was approached by Vāmanadeva. The Supreme Lord went to Bali Mahārāja, "Bali Mahārāja, give Me some land." You see? So these are all mental concoction. Therefore ''Bhagavad-gītā'' says that, "If you have got such mentality to give some charity, give it to Me. Come on." The first thing is you try to learn how to give God.		'''Prabhupāda:''' You are poor man. What you can give, charity? Why you are thinking that you can give in charity? Therefore God says, dadāsi yat: "If you are thinking to make some charity, give it to Me. Come on." Just like Bali Mahārāja was approached by Vāmanadeva. The Supreme Lord went to Bali Mahārāja, "Bali Mahārāja, give Me some land." You see? So these are all mental concoction. Therefore ''Bhagavad-gītā'' says that, "If you have got such mentality to give some charity, give it to Me. Come on." The first thing is you try to learn how to give God.

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	'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, one girl, she is Hindu, but she is studying in a convent. And she was . . . they were catching butterflies in the garden. So the head Sister said: "No, don't harm them because they are God's creatures." So she said: "Well, why do you eat meat?" So the Sister left, but she failed her. She failed her in her classes. She gave her failing grades, because she spoke back to her.		'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, one girl, she is Hindu, but she is studying in a convent. And she was . . . they were catching butterflies in the garden. So the head Sister said: "No, don't harm them because they are God's creatures." So she said: "Well, why do you eat meat?" So the Sister left, but she failed her. She failed her in her classes. She gave her failing grades, because she spoke back to her.

	Kīrtanānanda: It means they have no philosophy.		'''Kīrtanānanda:''' It means they have no philosophy.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. No authority, no philosophy.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. No authority, no philosophy.

	Kīrtanānanda: If they say: "One living entity has soul and another living entity doesn't," what is the difference? What is the principle of movement, they don't know.		'''Kīrtanānanda:''' If they say: "One living entity has soul and another living entity doesn't," what is the difference? What is the principle of movement, they don't know.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' What is that idea? I do not follow.		'''Prabhupāda:''' What is that idea? I do not follow.
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	'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, she failed her in the class.		'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, she failed her in the class.

	Kīrtanānanda: Because she asked, "Why do you eat meat?"		'''Kīrtanānanda:''' Because she asked, "Why do you eat meat?"

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.

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	Is there any question on this point?		Is there any question on this point?

	Guest (1) (Indian man): Lord Brahmā also prays for to be born into Vṛndāvana. Lord Brahmā prays for him . . . (indistinct) . . . his prayer . . . what is the purpose of that?		'''Guest (1) (Indian man):''' Lord Brahmā also prays for to be born into Vṛndāvana. Lord Brahmā prays for him . . . (indistinct) . . . his prayer . . . what is the purpose of that?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Yes. Because he will try to understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#ff9933">Aiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please come.)</span> Even Lord Brahmā could not understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#ff9933">Baithiye, baithiye. Yehi baithiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please take your seat. You can sit down here.)</span> (laughs) No. Therefore, to understand Kṛṣṇa he desired to take birth in Vṛndāvana.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Yes. Because he will try to understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#ff9933">Aiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please come.)</span> Even Lord Brahmā could not understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#ff9933">Baithiye, baithiye. Yehi baithiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please take your seat. You can sit down here.)</span> (laughs) No. Therefore, to understand Kṛṣṇa he desired to take birth in Vṛndāvana.

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	So ''brahma-jijñāsā'' is not for everyone. ''Brahma-jijñāsā'' . . . for ''brahma-jijñāsā'' one should make a ''guru'', not for any material welfare. If I get some money, if some ''guru'' gives me some money, some gold, I think he is Bhagavān, because I am attached to this gold and material things. That is not ''śreya''. But people like that. If somebody by miracles give you some money, some gold, they think, "Oh, here is God. Here is God. Here is God." But that is not ''śreya''. And if gold is the standard of happiness, then . . . there are many persons, Birlas and others, they possess huge stock of gold. Does it mean that they will not die? They will not suffer from disease? But foolish persons, they think, "If I get some gold, then I'll be happy." And that is foolishness. Nothing material will make you happy. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says real happiness means to approach Him. ''Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya'' ([[BG 9.32 (1972)\|BG 9.32]]). No? What is that? ''Duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ'' ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). Find out this verse. ''Duḥkhālayam aśāś'' . . . ''māṁ'' . . . the second line you can find out.		So ''brahma-jijñāsā'' is not for everyone. ''Brahma-jijñāsā'' . . . for ''brahma-jijñāsā'' one should make a ''guru'', not for any material welfare. If I get some money, if some ''guru'' gives me some money, some gold, I think he is Bhagavān, because I am attached to this gold and material things. That is not ''śreya''. But people like that. If somebody by miracles give you some money, some gold, they think, "Oh, here is God. Here is God. Here is God." But that is not ''śreya''. And if gold is the standard of happiness, then . . . there are many persons, Birlas and others, they possess huge stock of gold. Does it mean that they will not die? They will not suffer from disease? But foolish persons, they think, "If I get some gold, then I'll be happy." And that is foolishness. Nothing material will make you happy. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says real happiness means to approach Him. ''Māṁ hi pārtha vyapāśritya'' ([[BG 9.32 (1972)\|BG 9.32]]). No? What is that? ''Duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ'' ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). Find out this verse. ''Duḥkhālayam aśāś'' . . . ''māṁ'' . . . the second line you can find out.

	Pradyumna: Seventh Chapter?		'''Pradyumna:''' Seventh Chapter?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, it may be.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, it may be.
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	''Nāpnuvanti''? ''Nāpnuvanti'' means "By coming to Me, one does not again get this place, which is ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam''" ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). ''Nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' . . . this place is ''duḥkhālayam''. ''Duḥkha ālayam''. Here we create miseries. Or it is a miserable place. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, who has created this cosmic manifestation as ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'', "It is a place of miserable condition. And that is also ''aśāśvatam'', not permanent, nonpermanent." You cannot make any compromise that, "All right, let it be ''duḥkhālayam''. I shall stay here." You cannot stay. You'll be kicked out. You cannot stay. Therefore it is called ''aśāśvatam'', non-permanent. This is our . . . but we are seeking after permanent bliss, permanent, eternal life. That is our searching out. That is real ''jijñāsā'': "Where I can get eternal life of bliss and knowledge?" That is ''brahma-jijñāsā''. So this life, this human . . . you have got it?		''Nāpnuvanti''? ''Nāpnuvanti'' means "By coming to Me, one does not again get this place, which is ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam''" ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). ''Nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' . . . this place is ''duḥkhālayam''. ''Duḥkha ālayam''. Here we create miseries. Or it is a miserable place. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, who has created this cosmic manifestation as ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'', "It is a place of miserable condition. And that is also ''aśāśvatam'', not permanent, nonpermanent." You cannot make any compromise that, "All right, let it be ''duḥkhālayam''. I shall stay here." You cannot stay. You'll be kicked out. You cannot stay. Therefore it is called ''aśāśvatam'', non-permanent. This is our . . . but we are seeking after permanent bliss, permanent, eternal life. That is our searching out. That is real ''jijñāsā'': "Where I can get eternal life of bliss and knowledge?" That is ''brahma-jijñāsā''. So this life, this human . . . you have got it?

	Pradyumna: Yes.		'''Pradyumna:''' Yes.

	:''mām upetya punar janma''		:''mām upetya punar janma''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah, this is ''saṁsiddhiṁ paramām'', highest perfection. What is the translation?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah, this is ''saṁsiddhiṁ paramām'', highest perfection. What is the translation?

	Pradyumna: "After attaining Me, the great souls who are ''yogīs'' in devotion never return to this temporary world, which is full of miseries, because they have attained the highest perfection."		'''Pradyumna:''' "After attaining Me, the great souls who are ''yogīs'' in devotion never return to this temporary world, which is full of miseries, because they have attained the highest perfection."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the highest perfection. ''Nāpnuvanti'' . . . what is that?		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the highest perfection. ''Nāpnuvanti'' . . . what is that?

	Pradyumna: ''Nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ''.		'''Pradyumna:''' ''Nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ''.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah, ''mahātmāna''. This ''mahātmāna'' means devotees of Lord. ''Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ'', ''bhajanty ananya-manasaḥ'' ([[BG 9.13 (1972)\|BG 9.13]]). This is ''mahātmā''. Not by stamping "''mahātmā''." ''Mahātmā'' means . . . ''mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''. ''Mahātmās'', they are under the protection of spiritual energy. And what is the sign? That ''bhajanty ananya-manasaḥ''. Find out this verse, ''mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''. Just like we are under the material energy. This is called . . . this is also ''daivī-prakṛti'', but it is inferior.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah, ''mahātmāna''. This ''mahātmāna'' means devotees of Lord. ''Mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ'', ''bhajanty ananya-manasaḥ'' ([[BG 9.13 (1972)\|BG 9.13]]). This is ''mahātmā''. Not by stamping "''mahātmā''." ''Mahātmā'' means . . . ''mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''. ''Mahātmās'', they are under the protection of spiritual energy. And what is the sign? That ''bhajanty ananya-manasaḥ''. Find out this verse, ''mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha daivīṁ prakṛtim āśritāḥ''. Just like we are under the material energy. This is called . . . this is also ''daivī-prakṛti'', but it is inferior.
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	''Parā-prakṛti'' and ''aparā-prakṛti''. That is described. That real ''daivī-prakṛti'' is transcendental. Everything is Kṛṣṇa's energy. Just like heat and light, they are different energies of the fire. But heat or light, light is superior than the heat. Both of them coming from the same source, heat and light. Just like sun, the heat and light. But we are more concerned with the light, sunlight. Similarly, the spiritual world and the material world, both of them are creation or emanation, ''mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate'', from God. But the light energy is more perfect. ''Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām''. What is that verse? You have found out? Read it.		''Parā-prakṛti'' and ''aparā-prakṛti''. That is described. That real ''daivī-prakṛti'' is transcendental. Everything is Kṛṣṇa's energy. Just like heat and light, they are different energies of the fire. But heat or light, light is superior than the heat. Both of them coming from the same source, heat and light. Just like sun, the heat and light. But we are more concerned with the light, sunlight. Similarly, the spiritual world and the material world, both of them are creation or emanation, ''mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate'', from God. But the light energy is more perfect. ''Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakṛtiṁ parām''. What is that verse? You have found out? Read it.

	Pradyumna:		'''Pradyumna:'''

	:''mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha''		:''mahātmānas tu māṁ pārtha''
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	So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is making that ''sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ'', not ordinary ''mahātmā''. ''Sa mahātmā'', that ''mahātmā'', who fully surrenders to Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa also says, ''sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja'' ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]). That is real perfection of life. By understanding Kṛṣṇa, by surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, by going back to home, back to Godhead, Kṛṣṇa, that is ''saṁsiddhi''. What is that verse, ''saṁsiddhi''?		So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is making that ''sa mahātmā sudurlabhaḥ'', not ordinary ''mahātmā''. ''Sa mahātmā'', that ''mahātmā'', who fully surrenders to Kṛṣṇa. Kṛṣṇa also says, ''sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja'' ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]). That is real perfection of life. By understanding Kṛṣṇa, by surrendering to Kṛṣṇa, by going back to home, back to Godhead, Kṛṣṇa, that is ''saṁsiddhi''. What is that verse, ''saṁsiddhi''?

	Pradyumna: ''Saṁsiddhiṁ paraṁ gati'' . . .		'''Pradyumna:''' ''Saṁsiddhiṁ paraṁ gati'' . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No . . . ''nāpnuvanti''. ''Saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ''. ''Saṁsiddhim''. ''Siddhi'', ''siddhi'' is ordinary. If you become transcendentalist, ''jñānī'', ''yogī'', that is also kind of ''siddhi''. ''Yogīs'', they have got ''aṣṭa-siddhi, aṇimā-laghimādi''. But that is not ''saṁsiddhi. Saṁsiddhi'' is different. ''Saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ''. The highest perfection, ''saṁsiddhi'', is to go back to home, back to Kṛṣṇa. That is ''saṁsiddhi''. ''Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). That will save him from coming down again to this place which is full of miserable condition of life. That is ''saṁsiddhi''. That one can attain very easily.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No . . . ''nāpnuvanti''. ''Saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ''. ''Saṁsiddhim''. ''Siddhi'', ''siddhi'' is ordinary. If you become transcendentalist, ''jñānī'', ''yogī'', that is also kind of ''siddhi''. ''Yogīs'', they have got ''aṣṭa-siddhi, aṇimā-laghimādi''. But that is not ''saṁsiddhi. Saṁsiddhi'' is different. ''Saṁsiddhiṁ paramāṁ gatāḥ''. The highest perfection, ''saṁsiddhi'', is to go back to home, back to Kṛṣṇa. That is ''saṁsiddhi''. ''Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). That will save him from coming down again to this place which is full of miserable condition of life. That is ''saṁsiddhi''. That one can attain very easily.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' We are arrested by the police sometimes. Sometimes there are big cases against us. In Ireland. Ireland?		'''Prabhupāda:''' We are arrested by the police sometimes. Sometimes there are big cases against us. In Ireland. Ireland?

	Pradyumna: Ireland, Scotland, in Edinburgh, too.		'''Pradyumna:''' Ireland, Scotland, in Edinburgh, too.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' (laughing) These impediments are always there, even in Caitanya Mahāprabhu's time. The Kazi, the Muhammadan magistrate, he wanted to stop.		'''Prabhupāda:''' (laughing) These impediments are always there, even in Caitanya Mahāprabhu's time. The Kazi, the Muhammadan magistrate, he wanted to stop.

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	And now they are studying ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is, you will find thousands of ''kṛṣṇa-bhaktas''. They are not given the chance to understand ''Bhagavad-gītā'' by misinterpretation, "This means that, this means that, Kṛṣṇa means this, Kurukṣetra means body." Misinterpretation. Misled. Therefore we are presenting ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is, and people are accepting and becoming seriously devotee of Kṛṣṇa. They are surprised, the newspaper reporters. They inquire from me, "Swāmījī, why younger generation is attracted with this movement?" And younger generation, they are inquisitive. Old fools, whatever they have learned, they have to forget again. Then they will . . . it will take some time. They have learned something wrong. So one has to be washed of these wrong impressions; then he can come to the point of understanding Kṛṣṇa. But these young hearts, they are receptive. They are seeing, "Here is nice." They are accepting. They are chanting now on the streets. You have heard that record, "Hare Kṛṣṇa"?		And now they are studying ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is, you will find thousands of ''kṛṣṇa-bhaktas''. They are not given the chance to understand ''Bhagavad-gītā'' by misinterpretation, "This means that, this means that, Kṛṣṇa means this, Kurukṣetra means body." Misinterpretation. Misled. Therefore we are presenting ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is, and people are accepting and becoming seriously devotee of Kṛṣṇa. They are surprised, the newspaper reporters. They inquire from me, "Swāmījī, why younger generation is attracted with this movement?" And younger generation, they are inquisitive. Old fools, whatever they have learned, they have to forget again. Then they will . . . it will take some time. They have learned something wrong. So one has to be washed of these wrong impressions; then he can come to the point of understanding Kṛṣṇa. But these young hearts, they are receptive. They are seeing, "Here is nice." They are accepting. They are chanting now on the streets. You have heard that record, "Hare Kṛṣṇa"?

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Do you want to play it?		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Do you want to play it?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, why not play it? Yes. Bring that record. On New York, Fifth Avenue, our ''saṅkīrtana'' party is going on.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, why not play it? Yes. Bring that record. On New York, Fifth Avenue, our ''saṅkīrtana'' party is going on.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They are carrying the gramophone now.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They are carrying the gramophone now.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' And in London, Oxford Street, the most, I mean to say, crowded street, just like our Bombay . . . (indistinct) . . . Road. So in the big, big cities they are now chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, dancing. People are enjoying. ''Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma eva kevalam'' ([[CC Adi 17.21\|CC Adi 17.21]]). You can play this record at home and dance in tune and enjoy.		'''Prabhupāda:''' And in London, Oxford Street, the most, I mean to say, crowded street, just like our Bombay . . . (indistinct) . . . Road. So in the big, big cities they are now chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, dancing. People are enjoying. ''Harer nāma harer nāma harer nāma eva kevalam'' ([[CC Adi 17.21\|CC Adi 17.21]]). You can play this record at home and dance in tune and enjoy.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They are bringing it. This is the record, Every Town and Village. They are bringing the machine.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They are bringing it. This is the record, Every Town and Village. They are bringing the machine.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' We are arrested by the police sometimes. Sometimes there are big cases against us. In Ireland. Ireland?		'''Prabhupāda:''' We are arrested by the police sometimes. Sometimes there are big cases against us. In Ireland. Ireland?

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	And Swami Nikhilananda in New York, he personally said: "Now these Americans ask me that 'You take from us so much money for ''daridra-nārāyaṇa-sevā'', but when we go to India, we see all these ''daridra-nārāyaṇas'' are lying on the footpath. What you are doing for them?' " What you can do? You are simply thinking falsely. What you have got to give? Just oil in your own machine. Try to understand God, instead of thinking foolishly, "Oh, what I shall do, this? What I shall do, that?" First of all try to understand the situation.		And Swami Nikhilananda in New York, he personally said: "Now these Americans ask me that 'You take from us so much money for ''daridra-nārāyaṇa-sevā'', but when we go to India, we see all these ''daridra-nārāyaṇas'' are lying on the footpath. What you are doing for them?' " What you can do? You are simply thinking falsely. What you have got to give? Just oil in your own machine. Try to understand God, instead of thinking foolishly, "Oh, what I shall do, this? What I shall do, that?" First of all try to understand the situation.

	Indian lady: <span style="color:#ff9933">Ye Bhagavan kya sab kar jayenge na hum log . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is God going to do everything or we . . .)</span>		'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Ye Bhagavan kya sab kar jayenge na hum log . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is God going to do everything or we . . .)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">To kaun nahi janta hai? Tum kya kar sakti ho? Tum Bhagavan ka pehle seva karo, tab samjhoge. Aise sochne se kya hoga? Sab ka daridra tum nash kar sakte ho kya? Hai tumhare pas paisa itna? Socho, janma bhar socho, usme labh kya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Who doesn't know all this? What can you do? First of all, you render service to God then you will understand. What is going to happen by thinking like that? Can you help everyone's poverty? Keep thinking, keep thinking throughout your life, what is the benefit in that?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">To kaun nahi janta hai? Tum kya kar sakti ho? Tum Bhagavan ka pehle seva karo, tab samjhoge. Aise sochne se kya hoga? Sab ka daridra tum nash kar sakte ho kya? Hai tumhare pas paisa itna? Socho, janma bhar socho, usme labh kya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Who doesn't know all this? What can you do? First of all, you render service to God then you will understand. What is going to happen by thinking like that? Can you help everyone's poverty? Keep thinking, keep thinking throughout your life, what is the benefit in that?)</span>

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, it may be.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, it may be.

	(aside) Come on. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Aiye. Baithiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please come. Sit down.)</span>		(aside) Come on. <span style="color:#ec710e">Aiye. Baithiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please come. Sit down.)</span>

	''Nāpnuvanti''? ''Nāpnuvanti'' means "By coming to Me, one does not again get this place, which is ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam''" ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). ''Nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' . . . this place is ''duḥkhālayam''. ''Duḥkha ālayam''. Here we create miseries. Or it is a miserable place. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, who has created this cosmic manifestation as ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'', "It is a place of miserable condition. And that is also ''aśāśvatam'', not permanent, nonpermanent." You cannot make any compromise that, "All right, let it be ''duḥkhālayam''. I shall stay here." You cannot stay. You'll be kicked out. You cannot stay. Therefore it is called ''aśāśvatam'', non-permanent. This is our . . . but we are seeking after permanent bliss, permanent, eternal life. That is our searching out. That is real ''jijñāsā'': "Where I can get eternal life of bliss and knowledge?" That is ''brahma-jijñāsā''. So this life, this human . . . you have got it?		''Nāpnuvanti''? ''Nāpnuvanti'' means "By coming to Me, one does not again get this place, which is ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam''" ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). ''Nāpnuvanti mahātmānaḥ duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' . . . this place is ''duḥkhālayam''. ''Duḥkha ālayam''. Here we create miseries. Or it is a miserable place. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, who has created this cosmic manifestation as ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'', "It is a place of miserable condition. And that is also ''aśāśvatam'', not permanent, nonpermanent." You cannot make any compromise that, "All right, let it be ''duḥkhālayam''. I shall stay here." You cannot stay. You'll be kicked out. You cannot stay. Therefore it is called ''aśāśvatam'', non-permanent. This is our . . . but we are seeking after permanent bliss, permanent, eternal life. That is our searching out. That is real ''jijñāsā'': "Where I can get eternal life of bliss and knowledge?" That is ''brahma-jijñāsā''. So this life, this human . . . you have got it?
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	'''Guest (1) (Indian man):''' Lord Brahmā also prays for to be born into Vṛndāvana. Lord Brahmā prays for him . . . (indistinct) . . . his prayer . . . what is the purpose of that?		'''Guest (1) (Indian man):''' Lord Brahmā also prays for to be born into Vṛndāvana. Lord Brahmā prays for him . . . (indistinct) . . . his prayer . . . what is the purpose of that?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Yes. Because he will try to understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Aiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please come.)</span> Even Lord Brahmā could not understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Baithiye, baithiye. Yehi baithiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please take your seat. You can sit down here.)</span> (laughs) No. Therefore, to understand Kṛṣṇa he desired to take birth in Vṛndāvana.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Yes. Because he will try to understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#ec710e">Aiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please come.)</span> Even Lord Brahmā could not understand Kṛṣṇa. <span style="color:#ec710e">Baithiye, baithiye. Yehi baithiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please take your seat. You can sit down here.)</span> (laughs) No. Therefore, to understand Kṛṣṇa he desired to take birth in Vṛndāvana.

	'':manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu''		'':manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu''
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	'''Guest (1):''' Therefore, if a man feels empty, what he can offer?		'''Guest (1):''' Therefore, if a man feels empty, what he can offer?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, empty . . . God says that you can give Him ''patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyam'' ([[BG 9.26 (1972)\|BG 9.26]]). You can give Him little flower, little fruit, little leaf, little water, He is satisfied. Not that you have to give millions of dollars. But if you have got millions of dollars, and if you think, "God will be satisfied with little fruit," that is cheating. God knows, "He is a cheater. He has got millions of dollars and offering me little leaf, little water." He is intelligent enough. He knows that he's a cheater. People do that. ''Bhakti'' in the mind, God, and for others <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">. . . garama garama purī</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . hot hot ''purī''.)</span> And for Kṛṣṇa, within the mind, meditate. (laughter) God knows that, "He is a cheater number one. He is preparing ''purī'' for himself, and for Me he is meditating." What is this nonsense? How meditation will help?		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, empty . . . God says that you can give Him ''patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyam'' ([[BG 9.26 (1972)\|BG 9.26]]). You can give Him little flower, little fruit, little leaf, little water, He is satisfied. Not that you have to give millions of dollars. But if you have got millions of dollars, and if you think, "God will be satisfied with little fruit," that is cheating. God knows, "He is a cheater. He has got millions of dollars and offering me little leaf, little water." He is intelligent enough. He knows that he's a cheater. People do that. ''Bhakti'' in the mind, God, and for others <span style="color:#ec710e">. . . garama garama purī</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . hot hot ''purī''.)</span> And for Kṛṣṇa, within the mind, meditate. (laughter) God knows that, "He is a cheater number one. He is preparing ''purī'' for himself, and for Me he is meditating." What is this nonsense? How meditation will help?

	'''Guest (1):''' God expects something from you.		'''Guest (1):''' God expects something from you.
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	And Swami Nikhilananda in New York, he personally said: "Now these Americans ask me that 'You take from us so much money for ''daridra-nārāyaṇa-sevā'', but when we go to India, we see all these ''daridra-nārāyaṇas'' are lying on the footpath. What you are doing for them?' " What you can do? You are simply thinking falsely. What you have got to give? Just oil in your own machine. Try to understand God, instead of thinking foolishly, "Oh, what I shall do, this? What I shall do, that?" First of all try to understand the situation.		And Swami Nikhilananda in New York, he personally said: "Now these Americans ask me that 'You take from us so much money for ''daridra-nārāyaṇa-sevā'', but when we go to India, we see all these ''daridra-nārāyaṇas'' are lying on the footpath. What you are doing for them?' " What you can do? You are simply thinking falsely. What you have got to give? Just oil in your own machine. Try to understand God, instead of thinking foolishly, "Oh, what I shall do, this? What I shall do, that?" First of all try to understand the situation.

	'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ye Bhagavan kya sab kar jayenge na hum log . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is God going to do everything or we . . .)</span>		'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Ye Bhagavan kya sab kar jayenge na hum log . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is God going to do everything or we . . .)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">To kaun nahi janta hai? Tum kya kar sakti ho? Tum Bhagavan ka pehle seva karo, tab samjhoge. Aise sochne se kya hoga? Sab ka daridra tum nash kar sakte ho kya? Hai tumhare pas paisa itna? Socho, janma bhar socho, usme labh kya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Who doesn't know all this? What can you do? First of all, you render service to God then you will understand. What is going to happen by thinking like that? Can you help everyone's poverty? Keep thinking, keep thinking throughout your life, what is the benefit in that?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">To kaun nahi janta hai? Tum kya kar sakti ho? Tum Bhagavan ka pehle seva karo, tab samjhoge. Aise sochne se kya hoga? Sab ka daridra tum nash kar sakte ho kya? Hai tumhare pas paisa itna? Socho, janma bhar socho, usme labh kya hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Who doesn't know all this? What can you do? First of all, you render service to God then you will understand. What is going to happen by thinking like that? Can you help everyone's poverty? Keep thinking, keep thinking throughout your life, what is the benefit in that?)</span>

	'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Lekin Guruji, ye chize na karne se kuch karna to accha hai. Agar sab karne ka . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(But Guruji, doing something is better than nothing. If everything . . .)</span>		'''Guest (1):''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Lekin Guruji, ye chize na karne se kuch karna to accha hai. Agar sab karne ka . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(But Guruji, doing something is better than nothing. If everything . . .)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Nahi, nahi. Jo kuch karo, samajh ke karo. Samajh ke karo. Ye jaisa mai bataya ki hospital me bohot se starve kar rahe hai. Kyu nahi jate udhar? Kyu ki samjha hai ki isko doctor saheb ne bataya hai, nahi khana. Samjha hai na? Isi prakar, sab duniya me sabhi class hai, bohot daridra hai, bohot . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(No, no. Whatever you do, do it wisely. As I just said now, in the hospital, there are so many patients who are starving. Why don't you go there? Because we understand that he has been told by the doctor not to eat. Have you understood? Similarly, in the whole world, there are people of all classes. There are many poor people, many . . .)</span> (end)		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Nahi, nahi. Jo kuch karo, samajh ke karo. Samajh ke karo. Ye jaisa mai bataya ki hospital me bohot se starve kar rahe hai. Kyu nahi jate udhar? Kyu ki samjha hai ki isko doctor saheb ne bataya hai, nahi khana. Samjha hai na? Isi prakar, sab duniya me sabhi class hai, bohot daridra hai, bohot . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(No, no. Whatever you do, do it wisely. As I just said now, in the hospital, there are so many patients who are starving. Why don't you go there? Because we understand that he has been told by the doctor not to eat. Have you understood? Similarly, in the whole world, there are people of all classes. There are many poor people, many . . .)</span> (end)

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . ''kaṇḍūtivan manasijaṁ viṣaheta dhīraḥ'' ([[SB 7.9.45\|SB 7.9.45]]). ''Dhīras tatra na muhyati'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). If you can quote ''ślokas'', that will be first class. In India especially. In your country they do not care. Our Bhavānanda Swami, because he could not quote ''śloka'', so he was saying: "Oh, because you have quoted some ''śloka'', it is authorized?" (chuckles) He was saying like that. Western people, they cannot imagine that by quoting a Vedic version it becomes immediately authorized. They cannot imagine.		'''Prabhupāda:''' . . . ''kaṇḍūtivan manasijaṁ viṣaheta dhīraḥ'' ([[SB 7.9.45\|SB 7.9.45]]). ''Dhīras tatra na muhyati'' ([[BG 2.13 (1972)\|BG 2.13]]). If you can quote ''ślokas'', that will be first class. In India especially. In your country they do not care. Our Bhavānanda Swami, because he could not quote ''śloka'', so he was saying: "Oh, because you have quoted some ''śloka'', it is authorized?" (chuckles) He was saying like that. Western people, they cannot imagine that by quoting a Vedic version it becomes immediately authorized. They cannot imagine.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They don't accept that authority.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They don't accept that authority.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They don't accept that source of authority.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They don't accept that source of authority.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' They don't accept any authority. Therefore they are changing ''Bible'' also, according to their whims. They don't accept authority. Therefore father . . . son goes out of home. This is the basic principle of Western civilization. They don't accept any authority. Everyone is his own authority. Now that contamination has come here. And nobody can be authority also, because if I accept somebody authority, he has not followed authority, so how he can be authority? Do you follow? Suppose if somebody respects his father, but father never followed any authority. So actually father is not authority. What do they say, authority? Organized religion? They protest organized religion? What is that?		'''Prabhupāda:''' They don't accept any authority. Therefore they are changing ''Bible'' also, according to their whims. They don't accept authority. Therefore father . . . son goes out of home. This is the basic principle of Western civilization. They don't accept any authority. Everyone is his own authority. Now that contamination has come here. And nobody can be authority also, because if I accept somebody authority, he has not followed authority, so how he can be authority? Do you follow? Suppose if somebody respects his father, but father never followed any authority. So actually father is not authority. What do they say, authority? Organized religion? They protest organized religion? What is that?
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	Read something from ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and discuss. So in the Nepean Sea Road, whether regular other things are going on or not? Or simply it is going out and coming and eating and sleeping?		Read something from ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and discuss. So in the Nepean Sea Road, whether regular other things are going on or not? Or simply it is going out and coming and eating and sleeping?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, we want to have morning class, and Monday, Wednesday and Friday have evening program there, evening discourse.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Well, we want to have morning class, and Monday, Wednesday and Friday have evening program there, evening discourse.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Whether it is going on?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Whether it is going on?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, we just fixed up the place. The day you arrived was the first day it was painted. Until then, it was not fit for anyone to come in. It was very nasty.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Well, we just fixed up the place. The day you arrived was the first day it was painted. Until then, it was not fit for anyone to come in. It was very nasty.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' But you are living since a long time there.		'''Prabhupāda:''' But you are living since a long time there.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have been living, but we have not invited others there.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' We have been living, but we have not invited others there.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, you invite others or not, whether your program was going on?		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, you invite others or not, whether your program was going on?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, till then it wasn't, Prabhupāda.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' No, till then it wasn't, Prabhupāda.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Then it was simply a joint mess, that you go and collect and come and eat and sleep.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Then it was simply a joint mess, that you go and collect and come and eat and sleep.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is very dangerous. Then you will all fall down. If you make a joint mess, if you go and collect something and then eat and sleep, then everything will be . . . therefore I do not want to keep separate. The temple worship means there will be regulative principles, that you will have to rise early in the morning, you have to attend class, ''kīrtana'' . . . these things, as soon as you give up all these things—zero. Then it will be like karmīs, as they are, hard labor, collecting money and enjoying senses. That's all.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is very dangerous. Then you will all fall down. If you make a joint mess, if you go and collect something and then eat and sleep, then everything will be . . . therefore I do not want to keep separate. The temple worship means there will be regulative principles, that you will have to rise early in the morning, you have to attend class, ''kīrtana'' . . . these things, as soon as you give up all these things—zero. Then it will be like karmīs, as they are, hard labor, collecting money and enjoying senses. That's all.
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	So anyway, that is the danger, keeping a separate department for money collecting. Then it will turn, "Collect money, eat nicely and sleep nicely." And to live in the temple, at least one is forced to rise early in the morning, take bath, to have ''darśana''. They'll get regulated life. Therefore this temple worship is needed, because we are so impure. So at least, in temple, by following the regulative principles, we can keep yourself pure. Otherwise, simply chanting is sufficient. There is no need of constructing big, big temple. But we are so impure . . . that is Jīva Gosvāmī's recommendation, that as soon as we give up this temple worship method, regulative principle, then we become, in the dress of so-called, we become victim of ''māyā''. ''Veśopajīvaka''. They are working and doing some business, and then our dress will be a means of business. This will be also another material business. Actually they are doing so. So that is the danger of keeping a separate department. What is the use? We have got jeeps.		So anyway, that is the danger, keeping a separate department for money collecting. Then it will turn, "Collect money, eat nicely and sleep nicely." And to live in the temple, at least one is forced to rise early in the morning, take bath, to have ''darśana''. They'll get regulated life. Therefore this temple worship is needed, because we are so impure. So at least, in temple, by following the regulative principles, we can keep yourself pure. Otherwise, simply chanting is sufficient. There is no need of constructing big, big temple. But we are so impure . . . that is Jīva Gosvāmī's recommendation, that as soon as we give up this temple worship method, regulative principle, then we become, in the dress of so-called, we become victim of ''māyā''. ''Veśopajīvaka''. They are working and doing some business, and then our dress will be a means of business. This will be also another material business. Actually they are doing so. So that is the danger of keeping a separate department. What is the use? We have got jeeps.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Still . . . the danger is very much there, I see that. But there is a use.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Still . . . the danger is very much there, I see that. But there is a use.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Well, if the danger is there, why should we accept such use?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Well, if the danger is there, why should we accept such use?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Can we overcome that danger? We can try to overcome that danger.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Can we overcome that danger? We can try to overcome that danger.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You cannot ever overcome, because you are all weak. ''Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā'' ([[BG 7.14 (1972)\|BG 7.14]]). Unless you are very strong, ''māyā'' is very, very stronger than you. How you can avoid it? ''Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā'', ''mām eva ye prapadyante''. Only one is very, very strong in capturing the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, he can avoid. Otherwise it is not possible. There all these Vile Parle, Juhu gentlemen, they are daily coming to their city business. And is it very difficult for us?		'''Prabhupāda:''' You cannot ever overcome, because you are all weak. ''Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā'' ([[BG 7.14 (1972)\|BG 7.14]]). Unless you are very strong, ''māyā'' is very, very stronger than you. How you can avoid it? ''Daivī hy eṣā guṇamayī mama māyā duratyayā'', ''mām eva ye prapadyante''. Only one is very, very strong in capturing the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, he can avoid. Otherwise it is not possible. There all these Vile Parle, Juhu gentlemen, they are daily coming to their city business. And is it very difficult for us?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: They have an office, though, in the city where they come to. They have an office that they come to in the city.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They have an office, though, in the city where they come to. They have an office that they come to in the city.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Office means their business is office. But your business is begging. Your business is not office. Your business is not . . . they have to direct so many things from there. That we can do. Besides that . . . anyway, even they have got office, they come from in Bombay, Calcutta, even from hundred miles away.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Office means their business is office. But your business is begging. Your business is not office. Your business is not . . . they have to direct so many things from there. That we can do. Besides that . . . anyway, even they have got office, they come from in Bombay, Calcutta, even from hundred miles away.
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	(break) . . . twenty, twenty-five. So these women devotee, they are given ''cāpāṭis'' by the ''bābājīs''. ''Kṣurasya dhārā''. Actually it is like that. A sharpened razor. A little inattention, immediately blood. ''Kṣurasya dhārā niśitā duratyayā durgaṁ pathams tat kavayo vadanti'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 1.3.14). That is the risk. Nowadays modern civilization, as we are accepting, there is jeep, there is telephone. Everything is there. One can conduct his activities from anywhere.		(break) . . . twenty, twenty-five. So these women devotee, they are given ''cāpāṭis'' by the ''bābājīs''. ''Kṣurasya dhārā''. Actually it is like that. A sharpened razor. A little inattention, immediately blood. ''Kṣurasya dhārā niśitā duratyayā durgaṁ pathams tat kavayo vadanti'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 1.3.14). That is the risk. Nowadays modern civilization, as we are accepting, there is jeep, there is telephone. Everything is there. One can conduct his activities from anywhere.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But it didn't work last time. They stopped their preaching. The last time everyone moved to Juhu, they completely lost contact with all the Life Members in the city, because they found it very difficult to continuously go back and forth.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But it didn't work last time. They stopped their preaching. The last time everyone moved to Juhu, they completely lost contact with all the Life Members in the city, because they found it very difficult to continuously go back and forth.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So keep it just like a temple. Not that . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' So keep it just like a temple. Not that . . .
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The temple routine work must go there.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The temple routine work must go there.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But no Deity.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But no Deity.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Deity, there is picture. That's all right. Do you think that picture is not Deity?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Deity, there is picture. That's all right. Do you think that picture is not Deity?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' There are eight kinds of Deity. Picture is also Deity. Even the thinking of Kṛṣṇa within the mind, that is also Deity. But we are not so expert that within the mind we can worship the Deity. Just like yesterday I gave you the example, the ''brahmin''. He was worshiping Deity within the mind. There was no temple, no Deity. But within the mind, everything he was doing. And he got salvation. So that depends on particular person, how to worship Deity. So far we are gross men, so we must have Deity worship. Otherwise, you can worship Deity anywhere, sit down and think, just like this ''brāhmaṇa'' was thinking. Because Kṛṣṇa is available in any way, because He is everything. But the method must be there.		'''Prabhupāda:''' There are eight kinds of Deity. Picture is also Deity. Even the thinking of Kṛṣṇa within the mind, that is also Deity. But we are not so expert that within the mind we can worship the Deity. Just like yesterday I gave you the example, the ''brahmin''. He was worshiping Deity within the mind. There was no temple, no Deity. But within the mind, everything he was doing. And he got salvation. So that depends on particular person, how to worship Deity. So far we are gross men, so we must have Deity worship. Otherwise, you can worship Deity anywhere, sit down and think, just like this ''brāhmaṇa'' was thinking. Because Kṛṣṇa is available in any way, because He is everything. But the method must be there.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' They don't accept any authority. Therefore they are changing ''Bible'' also, according to their whims. They don't accept authority. Therefore father . . . son goes out of home. This is the basic principle of Western civilization. They don't accept any authority. Everyone is his own authority. Now that contamination has come here. And nobody can be authority also, because if I accept somebody authority, he has not followed authority, so how he can be authority? Do you follow? Suppose if somebody respects his father, but father never followed any authority. So actually father is not authority. What do they say, authority? Organized religion? They protest organized religion? What is that?		'''Prabhupāda:''' They don't accept any authority. Therefore they are changing ''Bible'' also, according to their whims. They don't accept authority. Therefore father . . . son goes out of home. This is the basic principle of Western civilization. They don't accept any authority. Everyone is his own authority. Now that contamination has come here. And nobody can be authority also, because if I accept somebody authority, he has not followed authority, so how he can be authority? Do you follow? Suppose if somebody respects his father, but father never followed any authority. So actually father is not authority. What do they say, authority? Organized religion? They protest organized religion? What is that?

	Acyutānanda: Yeah, they protest organized religion. Anything in the society, Catholic Church . . .		'''Acyutānanda:''' Yeah, they protest organized religion. Anything in the society, Catholic Church . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So nobody's now actually . . . this Christian world, they do not care for any Pope. Hmm. What do you think? And what is this Pope? He's simply a post. He has no knowledge. Otherwise, how he can tolerate? People are going against ''Bible''. But the Pope does not understand that the in the ''Bible'' clearly it is said: "Thou shall not kill"? If he does not understand the simple truth, then how he can become the head of his . . . so what is interpretation of the Pope?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So nobody's now actually . . . this Christian world, they do not care for any Pope. Hmm. What do you think? And what is this Pope? He's simply a post. He has no knowledge. Otherwise, how he can tolerate? People are going against ''Bible''. But the Pope does not understand that the in the ''Bible'' clearly it is said: "Thou shall not kill"? If he does not understand the simple truth, then how he can become the head of his . . . so what is interpretation of the Pope?

	Acyutānanda: Yes, they say that animals have no soul.		'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, they say that animals have no soul.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see. Such rascals, they are leaders. How much imperfect that institution is. But if you say, then they will be angry.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see. Such rascals, they are leaders. How much imperfect that institution is. But if you say, then they will be angry.

	Acyutānanda: Yes, one girl, she is Hindu, but she is studying in a convent. And she was . . . they were catching butterflies in the garden. So the head Sister said: "No, don't harm them because they are God's creatures." So she said: "Well, why do you eat meat?" So the Sister left, but she failed her. She failed her in her classes. She gave her failing grades, because she spoke back to her.		'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, one girl, she is Hindu, but she is studying in a convent. And she was . . . they were catching butterflies in the garden. So the head Sister said: "No, don't harm them because they are God's creatures." So she said: "Well, why do you eat meat?" So the Sister left, but she failed her. She failed her in her classes. She gave her failing grades, because she spoke back to her.

	Kīrtanānanda: It means they have no philosophy.		Kīrtanānanda: It means they have no philosophy.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' What is that idea? I do not follow.		'''Prabhupāda:''' What is that idea? I do not follow.

	Acyutānanda: The girl embarrassed the Sister by saying that, "You say that we shouldn't harm these insects, but you eat meat." So the Sister didn't say anything, but on the girl's examinations and during her classes the Sister gave her failing marks, in spite of her . . . to cut down her outspokenness.		'''Acyutānanda:''' The girl embarrassed the Sister by saying that, "You say that we shouldn't harm these insects, but you eat meat." So the Sister didn't say anything, but on the girl's examinations and during her classes the Sister gave her failing marks, in spite of her . . . to cut down her outspokenness.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Failing marks? Mane (means) less . . .?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Failing marks? Mane (means) less . . .?

	Acyutānanda: Yes, she failed her in the class.		'''Acyutānanda:''' Yes, she failed her in the class.

	Kīrtanānanda: Because she asked, "Why do you eat meat?"		Kīrtanānanda: Because she asked, "Why do you eat meat?"
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just see.

	Acyutānanda: She couldn't answer her philosophically, so she got back by failing her.		'''Acyutānanda:''' She couldn't answer her philosophically, so she got back by failing her.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So there are so many members of the Society "cruelty to animals." But they are all meat-eaters.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So there are so many members of the Society "cruelty to animals." But they are all meat-eaters.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So keep it just like a temple. Not that . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' So keep it just like a temple. Not that . . .

	Acyutānanda: Nepean Sea Road downtown, it should be kept like a temple?		'''Acyutānanda:''' Nepean Sea Road downtown, it should be kept like a temple?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The temple routine work must go there.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The temple routine work must go there.