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	'''Devotee:''' All right. Sañjaya! (break)		'''Devotee:''' All right. Sañjaya! (break)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' (indistinct) . . . so you have to learn so many things. Don't confuse yourself as authority. Then you will be misled. Therefore one has to accept a ''guru'', just to give him direct. Anything, any field of activity, if one is know . . . ''ācāryavān puruṣo veda'' (''Chāndogya Upaniṣad''). One who is being directed by ''ācārya'', he knows things. Not a vagabond. ''Ācāryavān puruṣo veda''. Why one goes to college, school? Just to follow the instruction of the teacher, and then he becomes educated. This is the general method. Anything you want to learn, you have to approach a person who knows the thing. Whimsically, if you create something in your mind, that is a madman's theory. The Vedic injunction is, ''tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet'' (MU 1.2.12). You have to, if we are going to learn the supreme science, science of God . . . in ordinary life, if we want to learn how to typewrite, I have to go to a typewriting school and to put this finger that way, put this finger that way. We have to learn in that way. And if we are going to learn Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Lord, you don't require anyone's help, "Let us do anything whimsically, that is all right." It is simply ludicrous, that's all.		'''Prabhupāda:''' (indistinct) . . . so you have to learn so many things. Don't confuse yourself as authority. Then you will be misled. Therefore one has to accept a ''guru'', just to give him direct. Anything, any field of activity, if one is know . . . ''ācāryavān puruṣo veda'' (Chāndogya Upaniṣad). One who is being directed by ''ācārya'', he knows things. Not a vagabond. ''Ācāryavān puruṣo veda''. Why one goes to college, school? Just to follow the instruction of the teacher, and then he becomes educated. This is the general method. Anything you want to learn, you have to approach a person who knows the thing. Whimsically, if you create something in your mind, that is a madman's theory. The Vedic injunction is, ''tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet'' (MU 1.2.12). You have to, if we are going to learn the supreme science, science of God . . . in ordinary life, if we want to learn how to typewrite, I have to go to a typewriting school and to put this finger that way, put this finger that way. We have to learn in that way. And if we are going to learn Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Lord, you don't require anyone's help, "Let us do anything whimsically, that is all right." It is simply ludicrous, that's all.

	That has spoiled the whole spiritual life of the present humanity. Everyone manufactures his own way. There is no . . . if you learn to typewriting, you have to learn systematically: this finger here, this finger . . . not that this finger there, this finger there. That is nonsense. You cannot do anything whimsically. This is nonsense. You have to learn systematically, scientifically. Then you are actually learned in that subject matter. And that is the Vedic injunction: ''tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet samit-pāṇiḥ''. Do you read ''Bhagavad-gītā''? No. You don't require to read anything; you have perfect devotion. This is spoiled. Human life is so valuable, and in this life you can realize God, you can make solution of all your problems. And if you do whimsically and spoil your life, then the valuable, duration of life, this is not very good thing. If you manufacture, "This man is better devotee," how do you know he's a better devotee? You do not know. This is not the way. If you want to be educated, you must admit yourself as a student in a school, then in a college, then in a university. And if you say: "No, no. I don't care for anything. I know everything. This is best school; this is better school," what is this? A teacher who has refused training of the spiritual master, how he can become a teacher? ''Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ'' ([[BG 4.2 (1972)\|BG 4.2]]). Our only request is not that we are canvassing, "Come to our camp." No. You must know the science, that is all. How to become devotee, you must know it scientifically. That is all. Otherwise you go to anyone who is there—there are so many other—but because you are interested, so you must know the science. Don't do it whimsically. That will be spoiling it. That is all. If you say that one is better devotee, then you must explain who is a devotee. First of all this: you must know who is a devotee. And then, according to the advancement of devotional life, one is superior, inferior.		That has spoiled the whole spiritual life of the present humanity. Everyone manufactures his own way. There is no . . . if you learn to typewriting, you have to learn systematically: this finger here, this finger . . . not that this finger there, this finger there. That is nonsense. You cannot do anything whimsically. This is nonsense. You have to learn systematically, scientifically. Then you are actually learned in that subject matter. And that is the Vedic injunction: ''tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet samit-pāṇiḥ''. Do you read ''Bhagavad-gītā''? No. You don't require to read anything; you have perfect devotion. This is spoiled. Human life is so valuable, and in this life you can realize God, you can make solution of all your problems. And if you do whimsically and spoil your life, then the valuable, duration of life, this is not very good thing. If you manufacture, "This man is better devotee," how do you know he's a better devotee? You do not know. This is not the way. If you want to be educated, you must admit yourself as a student in a school, then in a college, then in a university. And if you say: "No, no. I don't care for anything. I know everything. This is best school; this is better school," what is this? A teacher who has refused training of the spiritual master, how he can become a teacher? ''Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ'' ([[BG 4.2 (1972)\|BG 4.2]]). Our only request is not that we are canvassing, "Come to our camp." No. You must know the science, that is all. How to become devotee, you must know it scientifically. That is all. Otherwise you go to anyone who is there—there are so many other—but because you are interested, so you must know the science. Don't do it whimsically. That will be spoiling it. That is all. If you say that one is better devotee, then you must explain who is a devotee. First of all this: you must know who is a devotee. And then, according to the advancement of devotional life, one is superior, inferior.
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	'''Sañjaya:''' He will not.		'''Sañjaya:''' He will not.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' He will immediately, "You rascal, you don't come here. Get out!" Therefore it is common saying: "If you love me, love my dog, first." So if you love God's dog, then God automatically becomes pleased. ''Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo'' (''ŚrīŚrī Gurv-aṣṭaka''). If he is pleased, then God automatically is pleased—even if you're wrong. This is the way. These boys, they are doing that. I am an Indian; I've come from foreign country. I did not bring any riches for them, or bribe them. Why they are following? Out of love.		'''Prabhupāda:''' He will immediately, "You rascal, you don't come here. Get out!" Therefore it is common saying: "If you love me, love my dog, first." So if you love God's dog, then God automatically becomes pleased. ''Yasya prasādād bhagavat-prasādo'' (ŚrīŚrī Gurv-aṣṭaka). If he is pleased, then God automatically is pleased—even if you're wrong. This is the way. These boys, they are doing that. I am an Indian; I've come from foreign country. I did not bring any riches for them, or bribe them. Why they are following? Out of love.

	'''Sañjaya:''' That's why I am following you, Prabhupāda.		'''Sañjaya:''' That's why I am following you, Prabhupāda.
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	:''bhuṅkte bhojayate caiva''		:''bhuṅkte bhojayate caiva''
	:''ṣaḍ-vidhaṁ prīti-lakṣaṇam''		:''ṣaḍ-vidhaṁ prīti-lakṣaṇam''
	:(''Upadeśāmṛta'' 4)		:(Upadeśāmṛta 4)

	These symptoms of love means one must give and take. One must disclose his mind and take instruction. One must give him to eat, and one must take something from him to eat. These are the six symptoms of love. Give and take. Just like you have given me this flower, so you have given. So if I instructed, "You take it," that is give and take. If I offer you ''prasādam'', you should bring some foodstuff. You should disclose your mind, and you should say that, "This is my problem; you should hear me." This is a symptom of love. Everything is there.		These symptoms of love means one must give and take. One must disclose his mind and take instruction. One must give him to eat, and one must take something from him to eat. These are the six symptoms of love. Give and take. Just like you have given me this flower, so you have given. So if I instructed, "You take it," that is give and take. If I offer you ''prasādam'', you should bring some foodstuff. You should disclose your mind, and you should say that, "This is my problem; you should hear me." This is a symptom of love. Everything is there.
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	:''bhuṅkte bhojayate caiva''		:''bhuṅkte bhojayate caiva''
	:''ṣaḍ-vidhaṁ prīti-lakṣaṇam''		:''ṣaḍ-vidhaṁ prīti-lakṣaṇam''
	:(''Upadeśāmṛta'' 4)		:(Upadeśāmṛta 4)

	So our only request is that our business is we are in this old age traveling four times in a year. What is material benefit out of it? I am old man. I cannot move. I am eighty years, and two years less. Naturally this is not the age for traveling, retirement. But why I am traveling? Because I wanted to satisfy my Guru Mahārāja. That is the only reason. I wanted to satisfy the desire of my Guru Mahārāja, the desire of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. And therefore at night I don't sleep; I dictate. I publish this book. I go from country to country, village to village, town to town. And they also reciprocate, these boys. They're helping me, how to publish these book, these boys. That boy is editing twenty-four hours; he is typing. Do I pay them anything?		So our only request is that our business is we are in this old age traveling four times in a year. What is material benefit out of it? I am old man. I cannot move. I am eighty years, and two years less. Naturally this is not the age for traveling, retirement. But why I am traveling? Because I wanted to satisfy my Guru Mahārāja. That is the only reason. I wanted to satisfy the desire of my Guru Mahārāja, the desire of Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu. And therefore at night I don't sleep; I dictate. I publish this book. I go from country to country, village to village, town to town. And they also reciprocate, these boys. They're helping me, how to publish these book, these boys. That boy is editing twenty-four hours; he is typing. Do I pay them anything?
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	'''Devotee:''' He is busy with the Deities now.		'''Devotee:''' He is busy with the Deities now.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmmm. Japan . . . why Japan? Anywhere. This is, at the present moment, the whole civilization is demonic. Whole civilization. The demons, they will not very much inclined to hear about philosophy. They are not inclined. There is a Bengali saying, ''churā na mane ghar me kayi'' ~~(?)~~. Suppose a man is thief, and if you instruct him good lessons, "My dear man, you are stealing. It is not very good. You are doing, so you'll have to suffer misery," does he care for it? Does he care? "Oh, you rascal, go on talking—I shall do my own business." So ''churā na'', he is a ''churā'', he's a thief. You give him good philosophy, he will not hear. Then, how to cure him? That is given by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu:		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmmm. Japan . . . why Japan? Anywhere. This is, at the present moment, the whole civilization is demonic. Whole civilization. The demons, they will not very much inclined to hear about philosophy. They are not inclined. There is a Bengali saying, ''churā na mane ghar me kayi''. Suppose a man is thief, and if you instruct him good lessons, "My dear man, you are stealing. It is not very good. You are doing, so you'll have to suffer misery," does he care for it? Does he care? "Oh, you rascal, go on talking—I shall do my own business." So ''churā na'', he is a ''churā'', he's a thief. You give him good philosophy, he will not hear. Then, how to cure him? That is given by Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu:

	:''harer nāma harer nāma''		:''harer nāma harer nāma''
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	:''nirbandhaḥ kṛṣṇa-sambandhe''		:''nirbandhaḥ kṛṣṇa-sambandhe''
	:''yuktaṁ vairāgyam ucyate''		:''yuktaṁ vairāgyam ucyate''
	:(''Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu'' 1.2.255)		:(Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.2.255)

	Everything must be . . . so we do not hate anything, because we know that everything has got relationship with Kṛṣṇa. And if that thing is engaged in Kṛṣṇa's service, that is perfect. That is perfect. We are using everything—the electricity, the Dictaphone, the table—but we are not using it for sense gratification. Every moment we are engaged. ''Avyartha-kālatvam'' ([[CC Madhya 23.18-19\|CC Madhya 23.18]]), that is higher advance that, "This time I have passed, what I have done for Kṛṣṇa?" This is character of advancement, "What I have done for Kṛṣṇa? What I have done for my Guru Mahārāja?" If in this way we lead our life, that is perfect. That is perfect. "Guru Mahārāja has entrusted me with this business. How far I have done this?" that is perfect.		Everything must be . . . so we do not hate anything, because we know that everything has got relationship with Kṛṣṇa. And if that thing is engaged in Kṛṣṇa's service, that is perfect. That is perfect. We are using everything—the electricity, the Dictaphone, the table—but we are not using it for sense gratification. Every moment we are engaged. ''Avyartha-kālatvam'' ([[CC Madhya 23.18-19\|CC Madhya 23.18]]), that is higher advance that, "This time I have passed, what I have done for Kṛṣṇa?" This is character of advancement, "What I have done for Kṛṣṇa? What I have done for my Guru Mahārāja?" If in this way we lead our life, that is perfect. That is perfect. "Guru Mahārāja has entrusted me with this business. How far I have done this?" that is perfect.

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