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RasaRasika at 03:06, 29 November 2023

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So He predicted, and by His great will it is being propagated.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So He predicted, and by His great will it is being propagated.

	'''Professor Lacombe:''' How many . . . (indistinct) ~~. . .?~~		'''Professor Lacombe:''' How many . . . (indistinct)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' We have got about hundred branches, and each branch, there are not less than twenty-five up to 250. So average, if you take one hundred, then it is ten thousand. Yes. Ten thousand. And all of them are young, within thirty, within thirty. So . . . and they are trying to understand the philosophy very nicely, even these girls. She knows. In India, even the big, big learned scholars, they are—Indian scholar, I mean—they were surprised when some of my the students, young students, girls and boys, were speaking in Navadvīpa.		'''Prabhupāda:''' We have got about hundred branches, and each branch, there are not less than twenty-five up to 250. So average, if you take one hundred, then it is ten thousand. Yes. Ten thousand. And all of them are young, within thirty, within thirty. So . . . and they are trying to understand the philosophy very nicely, even these girls. She knows. In India, even the big, big learned scholars, they are—Indian scholar, I mean—they were surprised when some of my the students, young students, girls and boys, were speaking in Navadvīpa.

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	'''Bhagavān:''' It is from Yogeśvara.		'''Bhagavān:''' It is from Yogeśvara.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' It is supposed that the ''gopīs'' are looking to the picture of Kṛṣṇa, is it not?		'''Prabhupāda:''' It is supposed that the gopīs are looking to the picture of Kṛṣṇa, is it not?

	'''Professor Lacombe:''' Yes. Very likely.		'''Professor Lacombe:''' Yes. Very likely.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' And that is freedom. So Rāya Rāmānanda left because such freedom is not allowed here. So we have to allow this freedom like the Church? (laughs)		'''Prabhupāda:''' And that is freedom. So Rāya Rāmānanda left because such freedom is not allowed here. So we have to allow this freedom like the Church? (laughs)

	Bhārgava: There was one survey done by a college, a university, Michigan State, and Rūpānuga Mahārāja researched it and said 94% of the people in America, they believe there is a God, but only 35% will go to church. They are not very much interested in the churches anymore. They don't trust them. But 94% believe there is God.		'''Bhārgava:''' There was one survey done by a college, a university, Michigan State, and Rūpānuga Mahārāja researched it and said 94% of the people in America, they believe there is a God, but only 35% will go to church. They are not very much interested in the churches anymore. They don't trust them. But 94% believe there is God.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Because the Church could not help them in understanding God. The Christian Church has no idea what is God. Therefore there is no name of God. Actually, they have no idea about God. Is there?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Because the Church could not help them in understanding God. The Christian Church has no idea what is God. Therefore there is no name of God. Actually, they have no idea about God. Is there?

	Bhārgava: I was raised up a very strict Catholic, going through Catholic school till I was fifteen years old, but I could not . . . they were trying to teach love of God, but I could not see that they were also loving God. Even the head priest, he was found having illicit sex relationships with one of the young nuns, and she became pregnant by that and he had to leave. They quietly sent him away without anybody knowing, but later on it came out.		'''Bhārgava:''' I was raised up a very strict Catholic, going through Catholic school till I was fifteen years old, but I could not . . . they were trying to teach love of God, but I could not see that they were also loving God. Even the head priest, he was found having illicit sex relationships with one of the young nuns, and she became pregnant by that and he had to leave. They quietly sent him away without anybody knowing, but later on it came out.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is going on everywhere.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is going on everywhere.

	Bhārgava: And I saw, "What is the point? They are not even loving God." They were teaching loving God, but I could not see it.		'''Bhārgava:''' And I saw, "What is the point? They are not even loving God." They were teaching loving God, but I could not see it.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' He said that Vivekananda was doing that. You said? Just tell him.		'''Prabhupāda:''' He said that Vivekananda was doing that. You said? Just tell him.

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	'''Bhagavān:''' (to devotee) Do you have the photographs?		'''Bhagavān:''' (to devotee) Do you have the photographs?

	Yogeśvara: Don't think so. Some slides somewhere.		'''Yogeśvara:''' Don't think so. Some slides somewhere.

	'''Professor Lacombe:''' But that is an old shrine. It is not a new establishment.		'''Professor Lacombe:''' But that is an old shrine. It is not a new establishment.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' I will stay there one week, and then, on the 23rd . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' I will stay there one week, and then, on the 23rd . . .

	Yogeśvara: 26th.		'''Yogeśvara:''' 26th.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, 23rd.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, 23rd.
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	'''Professor Lacombe:''' And the festival in Sydney will take a long time?		'''Professor Lacombe:''' And the festival in Sydney will take a long time?

	Yogeśvara: Sydney festival is for how many days?		'''Yogeśvara:''' Sydney festival is for how many days?

	'''Devotee:''' I think it's just for one day.		'''Devotee:''' I think it's just for one day.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' On the 29th.		'''Prabhupāda:''' On the 29th.

	Yogeśvara: One day, 29th of June. Ratha-yātrā festival, like in Jagannātha Purī.		'''Yogeśvara:''' One day, 29th of June. Ratha-yātrā festival, like in Jagannātha Purī.

	'''Professor Lacombe:''' Today it is better here, little warmer. These days were unusually cool for this time of year.		'''Professor Lacombe:''' Today it is better here, little warmer. These days were unusually cool for this time of year.

	Yogeśvara: How are you feeling? When we went to visit you in your office, it wasn't sure whether you could come, because you were not feeling very well.		'''Yogeśvara:''' How are you feeling? When we went to visit you in your office, it wasn't sure whether you could come, because you were not feeling very well.

	'''Professor Lacombe:''' I am not very well, no.		'''Professor Lacombe:''' I am not very well, no.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' But this picture also appears to be searching out Aniruddha.		'''Prabhupāda:''' But this picture also appears to be searching out Aniruddha.

	Yogeśvara: Uṣā.		'''Yogeśvara:''' Uṣā.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Uṣā, yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Uṣā, yes.
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	'''Devotee:''' Citralekhā		'''Devotee:''' Citralekhā

	Yogeśvara: Yes, that's right. She showed her a picture. Because she had never seen Aniruddha.		'''Yogeśvara:''' Yes, that's right. She showed her a picture. Because she had never seen Aniruddha.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' She saw only in dream. So her friend Citralekhā showed. She showed that, "Find out whom you dreamed." Then she pointed out.		'''Prabhupāda:''' She saw only in dream. So her friend Citralekhā showed. She showed that, "Find out whom you dreamed." Then she pointed out.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So immediately she brought from Dvārakā-dhāma palace direct to the palace of Uṣā. Vyom . . . what is called, the ''asura''? What is his name?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So immediately she brought from Dvārakā-dhāma palace direct to the palace of Uṣā. Vyom . . . what is called, the ''asura''? What is his name?

	Yogeśvara: Bhaumāsura.		'''Yogeśvara:''' Bhaumāsura.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Bhaumāsura. Bāṇāsura, Bāṇāsura. The picture, where is that picture, find out. Bāṇāsura. Bāṇāsura was appreciating, "Oh, very nice couple." But he had to challenge, "Why you have entered my palace and talking with my unmarried girl?"		'''Prabhupāda:''' Bhaumāsura. Bāṇāsura, Bāṇāsura. The picture, where is that picture, find out. Bāṇāsura. Bāṇāsura was appreciating, "Oh, very nice couple." But he had to challenge, "Why you have entered my palace and talking with my unmarried girl?"
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Jaya''. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break)		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Jaya''. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break)

	Yogeśvara: . . . on a book. It is accepted as being authentic. All the universities use his texts. And he has a big office in the Sorbonne. The Sorbonne is the most famous French university.		'''Yogeśvara:''' . . . on a book. It is accepted as being authentic. All the universities use his texts. And he has a big office in the Sorbonne. The Sorbonne is the most famous French university.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' He is a big man.		'''Prabhupāda:''' He is a big man.
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	'''Devotee:''' Yes. Because . . . you knew about the Watergate case. He was caught . . .		'''Devotee:''' Yes. Because . . . you knew about the Watergate case. He was caught . . .

	Yogeśvara: Prabhupāda knows about the story. He knows the incident. He was found innocent by who? By a court?		'''Yogeśvara:''' Prabhupāda knows about the story. He knows the incident. He was found innocent by who? By a court?

	'''Devotee:''' Yes, by the whole government. He had done some cheating and campaign, making secret tape recordings against the other party.		'''Devotee:''' Yes, by the whole government. He had done some cheating and campaign, making secret tape recordings against the other party.
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	'''Devotee:''' The United States government. They had a big trial and everything. So they found tapes and everything, but there was some missing tapes. They could not directly pin him for the whole thing. He said: "I didn't know anything about it." He says: "My men were just doing it. I never told them to do it. They did it on their own, for me. They liked me so much, they were just doing it. I never paid them."		'''Devotee:''' The United States government. They had a big trial and everything. So they found tapes and everything, but there was some missing tapes. They could not directly pin him for the whole thing. He said: "I didn't know anything about it." He says: "My men were just doing it. I never told them to do it. They did it on their own, for me. They liked me so much, they were just doing it. I never paid them."

	Yogeśvara: Isn't the ''kṣatriya'' qualities that he is to be trustworthy?		'''Yogeśvara:''' Isn't the ''kṣatriya'' qualities that he is to be trustworthy?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. When there is political game, everyone does everything to gain his victory.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. When there is political game, everyone does everything to gain his victory.

	Yogeśvara: Just like during any war they always . . .		'''Yogeśvara:''' Just like during any war they always . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Politics, these things are allowed. Just like killing, fighting, ''kṣatriya's'' fighting. That killing is allowed. But killing is not allowed generally. Kṛṣṇa has killed so many. If you take from moral point of view, He's sometimes immoral. He has killed His maternal uncle, Kaṁsa, and Śiśupāla, Śiśupāla, his cousin-brother. And Balarāma killed Rukma. Once He saved him, and another time, that Aniruddha's marriage, or something like that . . . Balarāma killed Rukma, the brother of Rukmiṇī. They were family relatives. But there were some misunderstanding in chess playing, that other party, Rukma, he was cheating by tricks. The Balarāma became so angry, they killed him. So in politics amongst the ''kṣatriyas'', these things are not uncommon.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Politics, these things are allowed. Just like killing, fighting, ''kṣatriya's'' fighting. That killing is allowed. But killing is not allowed generally. Kṛṣṇa has killed so many. If you take from moral point of view, He's sometimes immoral. He has killed His maternal uncle, Kaṁsa, and Śiśupāla, Śiśupāla, his cousin-brother. And Balarāma killed Rukma. Once He saved him, and another time, that Aniruddha's marriage, or something like that . . . Balarāma killed Rukma, the brother of Rukmiṇī. They were family relatives. But there were some misunderstanding in chess playing, that other party, Rukma, he was cheating by tricks. The Balarāma became so angry, they killed him. So in politics amongst the ''kṣatriyas'', these things are not uncommon.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' It is very difficult to . . . not to be victimized by woman. It is very difficult.		'''Prabhupāda:''' It is very difficult to . . . not to be victimized by woman. It is very difficult.

	Yogeśvara: Unless you are victimized by Kṛṣṇa first.		'''Yogeśvara:''' Unless you are victimized by Kṛṣṇa first.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. One who is, I mean, what is called, captivated by the beauty of Kṛṣṇa, then he is not victimized.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. One who is, I mean, what is called, captivated by the beauty of Kṛṣṇa, then he is not victimized.
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	''Madana-mohana. Madana-dāhana and Madana-mohana''. Unless one is captivated by the beauty of Kṛṣṇa, he will be troubled by the arrows of the Cupid. ''Madana-dāhana.'' The Cupid is known, he has got arrow. If he pierces, then he becomes victim.		''Madana-mohana. Madana-dāhana and Madana-mohana''. Unless one is captivated by the beauty of Kṛṣṇa, he will be troubled by the arrows of the Cupid. ''Madana-dāhana.'' The Cupid is known, he has got arrow. If he pierces, then he becomes victim.

	Yogeśvara: You didn't find it necessary to enter into any kind of discussion with this French professor just now. There was no real discussion of philosophy. I was wondering why that didn't happen.		'''Yogeśvara:''' You didn't find it necessary to enter into any kind of discussion with this French professor just now. There was no real discussion of philosophy. I was wondering why that didn't happen.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' He did not raise any question. And he is simply translator. He has no philosophy. I asked him, "Which philosophy you are . . .?" So "I make comparative study." I think he did not like to enter into philosophical . . . is it not?		'''Prabhupāda:''' He did not raise any question. And he is simply translator. He has no philosophy. I asked him, "Which philosophy you are . . .?" So "I make comparative study." I think he did not like to enter into philosophical . . . is it not?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the astonishment. In India, they give me credit this, that "How it has become possible that these European boys, American boys and girls, they have taken to this path?" That they are surprised.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the astonishment. In India, they give me credit this, that "How it has become possible that these European boys, American boys and girls, they have taken to this path?" That they are surprised.

	Yogeśvara: We don't have a very good reputation in India?		'''Yogeśvara:''' We don't have a very good reputation in India?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Very good reputation that you have become perfectly Vaiṣṇava.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Very good reputation that you have become perfectly Vaiṣṇava.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' What is the next program? Is there any program?		'''Prabhupāda:''' What is the next program? Is there any program?

	Yogeśvara: A big hall meeting.		'''Yogeśvara:''' A big hall meeting.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Today?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Today?

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' He said that Vivekananda was doing that. You said? Just tell him.		'''Prabhupāda:''' He said that Vivekananda was doing that. You said? Just tell him.

	Nitāi: That once I met a little old lady on the streets of Denver when I was distributing books.		'''Nitāi:''' That once I met a little old lady on the streets of Denver when I was distributing books.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Old lady.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Old lady.

	Nitāi: Very old. She was walking down the street. She was all bent over. And she asked me what I was doing, and I showed her our magazine and explained that we were teaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and she said: "Oh, is this ''yoga''? I remember way back when Vivekananda came here. Have you ever heard of him?" So we began talking about Vivekananda. She said that she was there when he made his tour. She was in Denver when he made his tour of the United States, and that he stopped there for one meeting and lectured. And she went there to see that meeting, but she said that all in all she was disgusted with him because he was so much attracted to the women. She said that he was victimized by the women. They were all trying to get him, and she said so when he went back to India he was a broken man.		'''Nitāi:''' Very old. She was walking down the street. She was all bent over. And she asked me what I was doing, and I showed her our magazine and explained that we were teaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and she said: "Oh, is this ''yoga''? I remember way back when Vivekananda came here. Have you ever heard of him?" So we began talking about Vivekananda. She said that she was there when he made his tour. She was in Denver when he made his tour of the United States, and that he stopped there for one meeting and lectured. And she went there to see that meeting, but she said that all in all she was disgusted with him because he was so much attracted to the women. She said that he was victimized by the women. They were all trying to get him, and she said so when he went back to India he was a broken man.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, she (he) took with him three women. One of them was Sister Nivedita.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, she (he) took with him three women. One of them was Sister Nivedita.
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	'''Bhagavān:''' He is in the other room. Would you like him to come in?		'''Bhagavān:''' He is in the other room. Would you like him to come in?

	Nitāi:		'''Nitāi:'''

	:''na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ''		:''na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Everyone comes, they say: "Why people are suffering?" They are concerned with the people suffering. Actually not. That is a plea only, as if he has taken the task of minimizing the suffering of humanity. He poses himself as very philanthropist. Actually, he cannot do anything.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Everyone comes, they say: "Why people are suffering?" They are concerned with the people suffering. Actually not. That is a plea only, as if he has taken the task of minimizing the suffering of humanity. He poses himself as very philanthropist. Actually, he cannot do anything.

	Nitāi: "Because material energy, nature, is so powerful, it can resist the unauthorized plans of the atheists and baffle the knowledge of the planning commissions. The atheistic plan-makers are described herein by the word ''duṣkṛtina'', or miscreant. ''Kṛtina'' means one who has performed meritorious work. The atheistic plan-maker is sometimes very intelligent and meritorious also, because any gigantic plan, good or bad, must take intelligence to execute. But because the atheist brain is improperly utilized in opposing the plan of the Supreme Lord, the atheistic plan-maker is called ''duṣkṛtina'', which indicates that his intelligence and efforts are misdirected. In the ''Gītā'' it is clearly mentioned that material energy works fully under the direction . . ."		'''Nitāi:''' "Because material energy, nature, is so powerful, it can resist the unauthorized plans of the atheists and baffle the knowledge of the planning commissions. The atheistic plan-makers are described herein by the word ''duṣkṛtina'', or miscreant. ''Kṛtina'' means one who has performed meritorious work. The atheistic plan-maker is sometimes very intelligent and meritorious also, because any gigantic plan, good or bad, must take intelligence to execute. But because the atheist brain is improperly utilized in opposing the plan of the Supreme Lord, the atheistic plan-maker is called ''duṣkṛtina'', which indicates that his intelligence and efforts are misdirected. In the ''Gītā'' it is clearly mentioned that material energy works fully under the direction . . ."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Just like in Paris, these nice buildings, nice parks, nice everything—they require brain. There is no doubt about it. But they have been used for woman and wine. That's all. That is their . . . they have come. People come to see Paris just for that . . . what is that theater?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Just like in Paris, these nice buildings, nice parks, nice everything—they require brain. There is no doubt about it. But they have been used for woman and wine. That's all. That is their . . . they have come. People come to see Paris just for that . . . what is that theater?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. And we have heard from our childhood that Paris is a place where people can go and enjoy prostitution. When we were children. I told you last night. So this city is undoubtedly constructed with good merit, but it is used for sinful act . . . nobody goes to . . . beautiful church, nobody goes there. But beautiful that theater, because there is naked dance, everyone goes. And therefore ''duṣkṛtina''. Church is vacant. Only the tourists come to see the churches. Not that such a important city, always glorification of Lord is going on, just like we are trying to do: take ''prasādam'', worship the Deity, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That would have been the activities of these beautiful churches. But there is no such activity, because people are ''duṣkṛtina''. They have got merit to construct very nice, wonderful buildings, but it is meant for sinful activities: illicit sex, intoxication, gambling and so on. And poor women, they are victimized by these rascals. That's all. Then?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. And we have heard from our childhood that Paris is a place where people can go and enjoy prostitution. When we were children. I told you last night. So this city is undoubtedly constructed with good merit, but it is used for sinful act . . . nobody goes to . . . beautiful church, nobody goes there. But beautiful that theater, because there is naked dance, everyone goes. And therefore ''duṣkṛtina''. Church is vacant. Only the tourists come to see the churches. Not that such a important city, always glorification of Lord is going on, just like we are trying to do: take ''prasādam'', worship the Deity, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. That would have been the activities of these beautiful churches. But there is no such activity, because people are ''duṣkṛtina''. They have got merit to construct very nice, wonderful buildings, but it is meant for sinful activities: illicit sex, intoxication, gambling and so on. And poor women, they are victimized by these rascals. That's all. Then?

	Nitāi: (reading) "In the ''Gītā'' it is clearly mentioned that material energy works fully under the direction of the Supreme Lord. It has no independent authority. It works as the shadow moves in accordance with the movements of the object. But still, material energy is very powerful, and the atheist, due to his godless temperament, cannot know how it works, nor can he know the plan of the Supreme Lord. Under illusion and the modes of passion and ignorance, all his plans are baffled, as in the case of Hiraṇyakaśipu and Rāvaṇa, whose plans were smashed to dust although they were both materially learned as scientists, philosophers, administrators and educators. These ''duṣkṛtinas'', or miscreants, are of four different patterns as outlined below.		'''Nitāi:''' (reading) "In the ''Gītā'' it is clearly mentioned that material energy works fully under the direction of the Supreme Lord. It has no independent authority. It works as the shadow moves in accordance with the movements of the object. But still, material energy is very powerful, and the atheist, due to his godless temperament, cannot know how it works, nor can he know the plan of the Supreme Lord. Under illusion and the modes of passion and ignorance, all his plans are baffled, as in the case of Hiraṇyakaśipu and Rāvaṇa, whose plans were smashed to dust although they were both materially learned as scientists, philosophers, administrators and educators. These ''duṣkṛtinas'', or miscreants, are of four different patterns as outlined below.

	1. The ''mūḍhas'': those who are grossly foolish like hard-working beasts of burden. They want to enjoy the fruits of their labor by themselves and do not want to part with them for the Supreme. The typical example of the beast of burden is the ass. This humble beast is made to work very hard by his master. The ass does not really know for whom he works so hard day and night. He remains satisfied by filling his stomach with a bundle of grass, sleeping for a while under fear of being beaten by the master, and satisfying his sex appetite at the risk of being repeatedly kicked by the opposite party. The ass sings poetry and philosophy sometimes, but this braying only disturbs others. This is the position of the foolish fruitive worker who does not know for whom he should work. He does not know that ''karma'', action, is meant for ''yajña'', sacrifice. Most often, those who work very hard day and night to clear the burden of self-created duties say that they have no time to hear of the immortality of the living being. To such ''mūḍhas'', material gains, which are destructible, are life's all in all, despite the fact that the ''mūḍhas'' enjoy only a very small fraction of the fruit of labor. Sometimes they spend sleepless days and nights for fruitive gain, and although they may have ulcers or indigestion, they are satisfied with practically no food. They are simply absorbed in working hard day and night for the benefit of illusory masters. Ignorant of their real master, the foolish workers waste their valuable time serving Mammon. Unfortunately, they never surrender to the supreme master of all masters, nor do they take time to hear of Him from the proper sources."		1. The ''mūḍhas'': those who are grossly foolish like hard-working beasts of burden. They want to enjoy the fruits of their labor by themselves and do not want to part with them for the Supreme. The typical example of the beast of burden is the ass. This humble beast is made to work very hard by his master. The ass does not really know for whom he works so hard day and night. He remains satisfied by filling his stomach with a bundle of grass, sleeping for a while under fear of being beaten by the master, and satisfying his sex appetite at the risk of being repeatedly kicked by the opposite party. The ass sings poetry and philosophy sometimes, but this braying only disturbs others. This is the position of the foolish fruitive worker who does not know for whom he should work. He does not know that ''karma'', action, is meant for ''yajña'', sacrifice. Most often, those who work very hard day and night to clear the burden of self-created duties say that they have no time to hear of the immortality of the living being. To such ''mūḍhas'', material gains, which are destructible, are life's all in all, despite the fact that the ''mūḍhas'' enjoy only a very small fraction of the fruit of labor. Sometimes they spend sleepless days and nights for fruitive gain, and although they may have ulcers or indigestion, they are satisfied with practically no food. They are simply absorbed in working hard day and night for the benefit of illusory masters. Ignorant of their real master, the foolish workers waste their valuable time serving Mammon. Unfortunately, they never surrender to the supreme master of all masters, nor do they take time to hear of Him from the proper sources."

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' In Chicago also, Philadelphia, there will be Ratha-yātrā. This is the . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' In Chicago also, Philadelphia, there will be Ratha-yātrā. This is the . . .

	Satsvarūpa: (showing poster) This is for Melbourne, Australia, Ratha-yātrā parade, picture of the parade last year.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' (showing poster) This is for Melbourne, Australia, Ratha-yātrā parade, picture of the parade last year.

	Professor Lacombe: Last year.		Professor Lacombe: Last year.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yes.

	Satsvarūpa: This is a poster that Haṁsadūta sent for Frankfurt for next week.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' This is a poster that Haṁsadūta sent for Frankfurt for next week.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yes. This is German language.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, yes. This is German language.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Equivalent.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Equivalent.

	Satsvarūpa: This style here. Prabhupāda gives the Bengali . . .		'''Satsvarūpa:''' This style here. Prabhupāda gives the Bengali . . .

	Professor Lacombe: Transliteration?		Professor Lacombe: Transliteration?

	Satsvarūpa: Translation, for pronunciation.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' Translation, for pronunciation.

	Professor Lacombe: No, no, there is no transliteration.		Professor Lacombe: No, no, there is no transliteration.

	Satsvarūpa: Translation, purport or notes.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' Translation, purport or notes.

	Professor Lacombe: No, there is only translation and notes. But some of the synonyms are in the notes. And the purport also comes in in the notes when necessary.		Professor Lacombe: No, there is only translation and notes. But some of the synonyms are in the notes. And the purport also comes in in the notes when necessary.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, 23rd.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, 23rd.

	Satsvarūpa: June 23rd we fly to Sydney. We stop in Bombay one day.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' June 23rd we fly to Sydney. We stop in Bombay one day.

	Professor Lacombe: It will be very hot now in Bombay.		Professor Lacombe: It will be very hot now in Bombay.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' This is very prominent in the Western country, which we are asking that no meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex. These things are only thing enjoyable.		'''Prabhupāda:''' This is very prominent in the Western country, which we are asking that no meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex. These things are only thing enjoyable.

	Satsvarūpa: They think if you eliminate those, there is nothing left to live for.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' They think if you eliminate those, there is nothing left to live for.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is Rāyarāma's statement. Yes. I am denying the bare necessities of life. ''Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye'' ([[BG 7.3 (1972)\|BG 7.3]]). Who will try for becoming perfect in this way? Very disappointing. But still, Kṛṣṇa is so kind that helping so many. They are doing actually. (aside) All right, keep it.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is Rāyarāma's statement. Yes. I am denying the bare necessities of life. ''Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye'' ([[BG 7.3 (1972)\|BG 7.3]]). Who will try for becoming perfect in this way? Very disappointing. But still, Kṛṣṇa is so kind that helping so many. They are doing actually. (aside) All right, keep it.

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	Professor Lacombe: Formerly you were in the south of . . . in the ''banlieu'' (suburbs).		Professor Lacombe: Formerly you were in the south of . . . in the ''banlieu'' (suburbs).

	Jyotirmayī: Yes, before.		'''Jyotirmayī:''' Yes, before.

	'''French devotee:''' At Fontenay-aux-Roses.		'''French devotee:''' At Fontenay-aux-Roses.

	Jyotirmayī: One year ago we came here in Paris.		'''Jyotirmayī:''' One year ago we came here in Paris.

	Professor Lacombe: It's of course more noisy and . . . but it's more easy and more convenient. When was this Paris center started?		Professor Lacombe: It's of course more noisy and . . . but it's more easy and more convenient. When was this Paris center started?

	Jyotirmayī: It started four years ago.		'''Jyotirmayī:''' It started four years ago.

	Professor Lacombe: Four years ago. And this is your first visit to this center?		Professor Lacombe: Four years ago. And this is your first visit to this center?
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	'''Bhagavān:''' What was the name of that course?		'''Bhagavān:''' What was the name of that course?

	Jyotirmayī: He was teaching the Tenth Canto.		'''Jyotirmayī:''' He was teaching the Tenth Canto.

	Professor Lacombe: Comparative philosophy, the Indian branch.		Professor Lacombe: Comparative philosophy, the Indian branch.

	Jyotirmayī: But this year you were teaching the Tenth Canto of ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''.		'''Jyotirmayī:''' But this year you were teaching the Tenth Canto of ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam''.

	Professor Lacombe: Yes. That was one of them, actually, with other courses. But I am retiring, finished, you see. I retire to come . . .		Professor Lacombe: Yes. That was one of them, actually, with other courses. But I am retiring, finished, you see. I retire to come . . .
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	Professor Lacombe: I'm afraid I should go now.		Professor Lacombe: I'm afraid I should go now.

	Jyotirmayī: Yes. Monsieur Lacombe has a course.		'''Jyotirmayī:''' Yes. Monsieur Lacombe has a course.

	Professor Lacombe: Not a course but a meeting. And as the traffic is rather thick now, it is better to not to take a chance. I should not be late.		Professor Lacombe: Not a course but a meeting. And as the traffic is rather thick now, it is better to not to take a chance. I should not be late.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So this is the position. As soon as you point out, "This man is dishonest," and you scrutinize, everyone is dishonest, then where is dishonesty? It is all honesty. Because if the whole business is dishonesty, so there is no question of honesty. Let it go on. That is the public opinion. Why one should be unnecessarily honest? If the whole world is dishonest, and the dishonest world is going on, then where is the harm? What is the use of becoming . . . the same thing, "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss."		'''Prabhupāda:''' So this is the position. As soon as you point out, "This man is dishonest," and you scrutinize, everyone is dishonest, then where is dishonesty? It is all honesty. Because if the whole business is dishonesty, so there is no question of honesty. Let it go on. That is the public opinion. Why one should be unnecessarily honest? If the whole world is dishonest, and the dishonest world is going on, then where is the harm? What is the use of becoming . . . the same thing, "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss."

	Jyotirmayī: That is exactly what people are saying now. They say: "What's the use of being organized and good and sane? Everybody is dishonest, they have too."		'''Jyotirmayī:''' That is exactly what people are saying now. They say: "What's the use of being organized and good and sane? Everybody is dishonest, they have too."

	'''Bhagavān:''' We have to give them a place to go where they can come if they want.		'''Bhagavān:''' We have to give them a place to go where they can come if they want.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Suppose I am thief and somebody accuses you that, "He is a thief." So I don't take it seriously, because I know, "I am also thief." (chuckles) So, but this appeal, that does not appeal because, "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." If everyone is thief, if you point out somebody that, "He is thief. He cannot be trusted," then he knows that, "I am also thief. It is not a big problem. I am also thief." Unless the whole public is sinless, he cannot appreciate a sinless leader. ''Chore chore mastuto bhāi.'' This is natural. If I am thief, so what is the use of accusing you by other, "He is also thief." You'll take that, "We all are thieves, all cousin-brothers; so why this man should be only accused?"		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Suppose I am thief and somebody accuses you that, "He is a thief." So I don't take it seriously, because I know, "I am also thief." (chuckles) So, but this appeal, that does not appeal because, "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." If everyone is thief, if you point out somebody that, "He is thief. He cannot be trusted," then he knows that, "I am also thief. It is not a big problem. I am also thief." Unless the whole public is sinless, he cannot appreciate a sinless leader. ''Chore chore mastuto bhāi.'' This is natural. If I am thief, so what is the use of accusing you by other, "He is also thief." You'll take that, "We all are thieves, all cousin-brothers; so why this man should be only accused?"

	Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is it not a vicious circle, though. Without a pure leader, they cannot be pure themselves.		'''Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:''' Is it not a vicious circle, though. Without a pure leader, they cannot be pure themselves.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' But they cannot understand. The vicious circle, they will not be able to understand, because he is also vicious.		'''Prabhupāda:''' But they cannot understand. The vicious circle, they will not be able to understand, because he is also vicious.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, he cannot give up these bad habits.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, he cannot give up these bad habits.

	Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: You said in Geneva that no one has died from giving up cigarettes or illicit sex.		'''Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:''' You said in Geneva that no one has died from giving up cigarettes or illicit sex.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: You said that at the meeting, the conference in Geneva, that no one has died from giving up smoking or illicit sex. So it is not so hard to do.		'''Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:''' You said that at the meeting, the conference in Geneva, that no one has died from giving up smoking or illicit sex. So it is not so hard to do.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, it is not hard. Now the Christian church is giving liberty, man-to-man marriage. Most unnatural.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, it is not hard. Now the Christian church is giving liberty, man-to-man marriage. Most unnatural.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is Rāyarāma's statement. Yes. I am denying the bare necessities of life. ''Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye'' ([[BG 7.3 (1972)\|BG 7.3]]). Who will try for becoming perfect in this way? Very disappointing. But still, Kṛṣṇa is so kind that helping so many. They are doing actually. (aside) All right, keep it.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is Rāyarāma's statement. Yes. I am denying the bare necessities of life. ''Manuṣyāṇāṁ sahasreṣu kaścid yatati siddhaye'' ([[BG 7.3 (1972)\|BG 7.3]]). Who will try for becoming perfect in this way? Very disappointing. But still, Kṛṣṇa is so kind that helping so many. They are doing actually. (aside) All right, keep it.

	Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Lord Caitanya's program is so attractive that even they can . . .		'''Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:''' Lord Caitanya's program is so attractive that even they can . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the astonishment. In India, they give me credit this, that "How it has become possible that these European boys, American boys and girls, they have taken to this path?" That they are surprised.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the astonishment. In India, they give me credit this, that "How it has become possible that these European boys, American boys and girls, they have taken to this path?" That they are surprised.
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	'''Devotee:''' They think that . . . they won't allow even a Westerner to marry their daughter, because the Westerners have a reputation of marrying for a week and then flying away. So they think like that of the people. Even our own men, sometimes the Indian girls wanted to marry with the ''brahmacārīs'', the American ''brahmacārīs'', but the parents would not allow because they said: "After you are married a week, he will just run away back to his country and leave you here." So they are thinking like that about the Westerners, that they . . . the life is so fast.		'''Devotee:''' They think that . . . they won't allow even a Westerner to marry their daughter, because the Westerners have a reputation of marrying for a week and then flying away. So they think like that of the people. Even our own men, sometimes the Indian girls wanted to marry with the ''brahmacārīs'', the American ''brahmacārīs'', but the parents would not allow because they said: "After you are married a week, he will just run away back to his country and leave you here." So they are thinking like that about the Westerners, that they . . . the life is so fast.

	Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Another ''brahmacārī'' saved. (laughs)		'''Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa:''' Another ''brahmacārī'' saved. (laughs)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our man has done so. You know that Rāmānuja? The Mexican boy?		'''Prabhupāda:''' One of our man has done so. You know that Rāmānuja? The Mexican boy?