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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is . . . that is the beginning of instruction in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. (indistinct background comments) The beginning of knowledge . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is . . . that is the beginning of instruction in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. (indistinct background comments) The beginning of knowledge . . .

	German lady: Excuse me. Would you please explain for some people who don't speak English here, in German, because we don't know all of your words?		'''German lady:''' Excuse me. Would you please explain for some people who don't speak English here, in German, because we don't know all of your words?

	'''Professor Durckheim:''' Yes, but I didn't want to interrupt the Master.		'''Professor Durckheim:''' Yes, but I didn't want to interrupt the Master.
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	'''Professor Durckheim:''' (translates question into German)		'''Professor Durckheim:''' (translates question into German)

	German lady: Have you got some points in common with the Christian?		'''German lady:''' Have you got some points in common with the Christian?

	'''Professor Durckheim:''' Lady says that there are some common points with the Christians, who also certainly want to become independent from this body, which wants material life only.		'''Professor Durckheim:''' Lady says that there are some common points with the Christians, who also certainly want to become independent from this body, which wants material life only.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Christian method, the offering prayer. That is ''bhakti''. That is ''bhakti''. (break) Kali-yuga means fight. Nobody is interested to understand the truth, but they'll simply fight, "In my opinion, this." I say: "My opinion, this." You say, "His opinion." So many foolish opinions, and fight within themselves. This is the age. No standard opinion. Everyone has got his own opinion. Therefore there must be fighting. Everyone says: "I think like this." So what is your value, your thinking like that? That is Kali-yuga. Because you have no standard knowledge. If a child says the father, "In my opinion, you should do like this," is that opinion to be taken? If he does not know the thing, how he can give his opinion? But here, in this age, everyone is prepared with his own opinion. Therefore it is fight, quarrel. Just like the United Nation, all the big men go there to become united. But they're increasing flags, that's all. Fighting. It is a society of fighting only. The Pakistan, the Hindustan, the American, the Vietnam . . . it was meant for unity, but it is rendered into fighting association, that's all. Everything. Because everyone is imperfect, and he wants to give his perfect knowledge.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Christian method, the offering prayer. That is ''bhakti''. That is ''bhakti''. (break) Kali-yuga means fight. Nobody is interested to understand the truth, but they'll simply fight, "In my opinion, this." I say: "My opinion, this." You say, "His opinion." So many foolish opinions, and fight within themselves. This is the age. No standard opinion. Everyone has got his own opinion. Therefore there must be fighting. Everyone says: "I think like this." So what is your value, your thinking like that? That is Kali-yuga. Because you have no standard knowledge. If a child says the father, "In my opinion, you should do like this," is that opinion to be taken? If he does not know the thing, how he can give his opinion? But here, in this age, everyone is prepared with his own opinion. Therefore it is fight, quarrel. Just like the United Nation, all the big men go there to become united. But they're increasing flags, that's all. Fighting. It is a society of fighting only. The Pakistan, the Hindustan, the American, the Vietnam . . . it was meant for unity, but it is rendered into fighting association, that's all. Everything. Because everyone is imperfect, and he wants to give his perfect knowledge.

	German lady: Do you mean the Kali-yuga exists all the time?		'''German lady:''' Do you mean the Kali-yuga exists all the time?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. This is the period when foolish men have developed . . . (break) Instead of making solution, the fighting increasing. Because they have no standard knowledge. Therefore this ''Brahma-sūtra'' says that you should be eager to inquire about the Absolute Truth. ''Athāto brahma jijñāsā''. Now the answer, next quote, is that Brahman, or the Absolute Truth, is that from which, or from whom, everything has come. ''Athāto brahma jijñāsā. Janmādy asya yataḥ'' ([[SB 1.1.1\|SB 1.1.1]]). Now you find out where is the . . . everyone is trying to find out what is the ultimate cause. That should be the aim, that if you follow these philosophical quotes, then your fighting will stop. You'll be sober. This verse also, ''tattva-jijñāsā. Tattva-jijñāsā'' means to inquire about the Absolute Truth. Sit down, because there should be a class of men, very intelligent class of men in the Society who are discussing about the Absolute Truth, and they will inform others, "This is Absolute Truth, my dear friends, my dear . . . you do it like this." That is wanted. But here everyone is absolute truth. That is fighting.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. This is the period when foolish men have developed . . . (break) Instead of making solution, the fighting increasing. Because they have no standard knowledge. Therefore this ''Brahma-sūtra'' says that you should be eager to inquire about the Absolute Truth. ''Athāto brahma jijñāsā''. Now the answer, next quote, is that Brahman, or the Absolute Truth, is that from which, or from whom, everything has come. ''Athāto brahma jijñāsā. Janmādy asya yataḥ'' ([[SB 1.1.1\|SB 1.1.1]]). Now you find out where is the . . . everyone is trying to find out what is the ultimate cause. That should be the aim, that if you follow these philosophical quotes, then your fighting will stop. You'll be sober. This verse also, ''tattva-jijñāsā. Tattva-jijñāsā'' means to inquire about the Absolute Truth. Sit down, because there should be a class of men, very intelligent class of men in the Society who are discussing about the Absolute Truth, and they will inform others, "This is Absolute Truth, my dear friends, my dear . . . you do it like this." That is wanted. But here everyone is absolute truth. That is fighting.
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	'''Satsvarūpa:''' Yes.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' Yes.

	German lady: (German)		'''German lady:''' (German)

	'''Vedavyāsa:''' She says that we cannot have heaven on earth.		'''Vedavyāsa:''' She says that we cannot have heaven on earth.
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	'''Professor Porsch:''' Included.		'''Professor Porsch:''' Included.

	German lady: Thank you very much.		'''German lady:''' Thank you very much.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hare Kṛṣṇa. Thank you. (some guests leave) So now we have come to Germany. You cooperate and make it a great success for the general benefit of the whole humanity. We have got arts, music, literature, culture, food—everything.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hare Kṛṣṇa. Thank you. (some guests leave) So now we have come to Germany. You cooperate and make it a great success for the general benefit of the whole humanity. We have got arts, music, literature, culture, food—everything.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh.

	Haṁsadūta: But he's all right.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' But he's all right.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Others also?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Others also?

	Haṁsadūta: No it's. It's just a cut here.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' No it's. It's just a cut here.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So our real business is how to become free from all these designations. Yes. Then we come to real consciousness. That real consciousness is that, "I am eternal. God is eternal. I am part and parcel of God. My duty is to serve God. And now I am serving also. I am not free from service, but I am serving under designation." Just like you went to fight because you designated yourself that, "I am German." This is an example that, "I must fight, give service to my country." Somebody is thinking, "Give service to my community" or "to my family." Or if there is nobody else, at least "to my dog." So this is going on. So we have to close all these designations and become pure and serve God. And that is self-realization.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So our real business is how to become free from all these designations. Yes. Then we come to real consciousness. That real consciousness is that, "I am eternal. God is eternal. I am part and parcel of God. My duty is to serve God. And now I am serving also. I am not free from service, but I am serving under designation." Just like you went to fight because you designated yourself that, "I am German." This is an example that, "I must fight, give service to my country." Somebody is thinking, "Give service to my community" or "to my family." Or if there is nobody else, at least "to my dog." So this is going on. So we have to close all these designations and become pure and serve God. And that is self-realization.
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	So this is our philosophy. We don't advocate vegetarianism or nonvegetarianism. We advocate, "Eat Kṛṣṇa's ''prasādam'', the remnants of foodstuff which is offered to Kṛṣṇa." This is our philosophy. And apart from this philosophy, because one living entity is food for another living entity, it does not mean that I shall eat my children also. There is discretion, that human being, they should offer these fruits, vegetables, milk as it is prescribed in the ''śāstra'', to God, Kṛṣṇa, and take. That is human civilization. Not for the satisfaction of the tongue we have to maintain big, big slaughterhouse and eat them. No, that is not human civilization. The main business of the human society is to understand God, and as soon as he understands God, he understands that every living entity is part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. Then how we can eat? That because Kṛṣṇa eats, Kṛṣṇa allows, then we eat. So responsibility is Kṛṣṇa's. This is our philosophy. Yes.		So this is our philosophy. We don't advocate vegetarianism or nonvegetarianism. We advocate, "Eat Kṛṣṇa's ''prasādam'', the remnants of foodstuff which is offered to Kṛṣṇa." This is our philosophy. And apart from this philosophy, because one living entity is food for another living entity, it does not mean that I shall eat my children also. There is discretion, that human being, they should offer these fruits, vegetables, milk as it is prescribed in the ''śāstra'', to God, Kṛṣṇa, and take. That is human civilization. Not for the satisfaction of the tongue we have to maintain big, big slaughterhouse and eat them. No, that is not human civilization. The main business of the human society is to understand God, and as soon as he understands God, he understands that every living entity is part and parcel of Kṛṣṇa. Then how we can eat? That because Kṛṣṇa eats, Kṛṣṇa allows, then we eat. So responsibility is Kṛṣṇa's. This is our philosophy. Yes.

	Haṁsadūta: There are many guests downstairs, some professors. We were wondering if you would like to lecture this evening.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' There are many guests downstairs, some professors. We were wondering if you would like to lecture this evening.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, let them come here. (break) We are publishing all these books, what is spoken by Kṛṣṇa or His representative. We don't speculate, because already there is so much profound knowledge given by Kṛṣṇa and His representative. There is no necessity of researching. If we simply take advantage of things which are already there, we become perfect.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, let them come here. (break) We are publishing all these books, what is spoken by Kṛṣṇa or His representative. We don't speculate, because already there is so much profound knowledge given by Kṛṣṇa and His representative. There is no necessity of researching. If we simply take advantage of things which are already there, we become perfect.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. I have no objection if somebody translates into German.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. I have no objection if somebody translates into German.

	Haṁsadūta: Vedavyāsa can translate. (German)		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Vedavyāsa can translate. (German)

	Professor Durckheim: Do you permit me to repeat it in German? For those who are present here?		Professor Durckheim: Do you permit me to repeat it in German? For those who are present here?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' And now . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' And now . . .

	Haṁsadūta: (to devotee) You want to translate? Translate.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' (to devotee) You want to translate? Translate.

	(devotee translates into German from this point)		(devotee translates into German from this point)
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	Professor Durckheim: Spirit? You see I have very often . . . I saw the difference.		Professor Durckheim: Spirit? You see I have very often . . . I saw the difference.

	Haṁsadūta: The spirit becomes the flesh.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' The spirit becomes the flesh.

	Professor Durckheim: The spirit becomes flesh.		Professor Durckheim: The spirit becomes flesh.
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	Dr. P. J. Saher: (German)		Dr. P. J. Saher: (German)

	Haṁsadūta: No, he has said a very good point. He said there is a difference, because an animal has no self-consciousness. He does not understand what he is in essence.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' No, he has said a very good point. He said there is a difference, because an animal has no self-consciousness. He does not understand what he is in essence.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is the real point.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is the real point.
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	Dr. P. J. Saher: Back to your question.		Dr. P. J. Saher: Back to your question.

	Haṁsadūta: Professor Durckheim's question was, very simply, "What is our way or what is our method to realize the highest truth, the absolute truth?" What is our process?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Professor Durckheim's question was, very simply, "What is our way or what is our method to realize the highest truth, the absolute truth?" What is our process?

	Professor Durckheim: Because we would learn what's your way.		Professor Durckheim: Because we would learn what's your way.

	Haṁsadūta: What is our process?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' What is our process?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' The simplest method is to associate with the Father, or the Absolute Truth, by association. This association can be possible. God, His name, His form, His pastimes, His abode, His paraphernalia, everything is God, because absolute. First of all you should understand this Absolute Truth. Just like here in the relative world the name of a person is different from the person. But in the absolute world the name and the person the same. So we are teaching or preaching this, that you chant the holy name of God, you associate immediately with God. And if you associate immediately with God, then gradually you become godly. The example is, just like you put one iron rod in the fire: it becomes warm, warmer, warmer and, at last, red hot. When it is red hot, it is no longer iron rod, it is fire. Similarly, if you simply associate with God, then gradually you become godly, or all the qualities of God. Then you understand God and your life becomes perfect. (break)		'''Prabhupāda:''' The simplest method is to associate with the Father, or the Absolute Truth, by association. This association can be possible. God, His name, His form, His pastimes, His abode, His paraphernalia, everything is God, because absolute. First of all you should understand this Absolute Truth. Just like here in the relative world the name of a person is different from the person. But in the absolute world the name and the person the same. So we are teaching or preaching this, that you chant the holy name of God, you associate immediately with God. And if you associate immediately with God, then gradually you become godly. The example is, just like you put one iron rod in the fire: it becomes warm, warmer, warmer and, at last, red hot. When it is red hot, it is no longer iron rod, it is fire. Similarly, if you simply associate with God, then gradually you become godly, or all the qualities of God. Then you understand God and your life becomes perfect. (break)
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right. You take this in the name of Jesus Christ.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all right. You take this in the name of Jesus Christ.

	Haṁsadūta: Prabhupāda, would you like to take your ''prasādam'' now?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Prabhupāda, would you like to take your ''prasādam'' now?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Not now. Later on. The simplest method—chant the holy name of God. That's all.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Not now. Later on. The simplest method—chant the holy name of God. That's all.
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	Professor Porsch: No. I mean in a further, in an extended way. For example . . .		Professor Porsch: No. I mean in a further, in an extended way. For example . . .

	Haṁsadūta: Yes. We have got a Life Membership program which can be . . . (indistinct) . . . can participate in that way.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Yes. We have got a Life Membership program which can be . . . (indistinct) . . . can participate in that way.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You can become a Life Member and read all these books and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. There is no loss. Suppose you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa; there is no material loss on your part. But if there is any gain, why don't you take it?		'''Prabhupāda:''' You can become a Life Member and read all these books and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. There is no loss. Suppose you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa; there is no material loss on your part. But if there is any gain, why don't you take it?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Here is my Dictaphone. I am sitting here. So as soon as I stop talking, I shall write immediately. At night also, I get up at two o'clock, one o'clock, and write these books.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Here is my Dictaphone. I am sitting here. So as soon as I stop talking, I shall write immediately. At night also, I get up at two o'clock, one o'clock, and write these books.

	Haṁsadūta: Prabhupāda came to United States in 1965, and this movement was started in 1966, '67, and since that time, he has published about twenty books like this, including ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta.''		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Prabhupāda came to United States in 1965, and this movement was started in 1966, '67, and since that time, he has published about twenty books like this, including ''Bhagavad-gītā'', ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta.''

	'''Prabhupāda:''' And what is the number of books sold last year?		'''Prabhupāda:''' And what is the number of books sold last year?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' (aside) You can play a little record. Last night . . .		'''Prabhupāda:''' (aside) You can play a little record. Last night . . .

	Haṁsadūta: This morning's recording?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' This morning's recording?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Make little louder. (tape of Prabhupāda singing prayers to the six Gosvāmīs plays) What are these pictures?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Make little louder. (tape of Prabhupāda singing prayers to the six Gosvāmīs plays) What are these pictures?

	Haṁsadūta: These are pictures of our Society's activities in the temples.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' These are pictures of our Society's activities in the temples.

	Professor Porsch: Very constructive and very . . . so much success in a relative very short time, if you began in 1966.		Professor Porsch: Very constructive and very . . . so much success in a relative very short time, if you began in 1966.
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	Professor Durckheim: You invite. But as far as members are concerned, to become a member of your movement . . .		Professor Durckheim: You invite. But as far as members are concerned, to become a member of your movement . . .

	Haṁsadūta: Yes, we have people in all walks of life. For example, we have the Ober-(German) from Baden Wurttemberg, he is a Life Member. And all people . . .		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Yes, we have people in all walks of life. For example, we have the Ober-(German) from Baden Wurttemberg, he is a Life Member. And all people . . .

	'''Devotee:''' We have doctors, lawyers . . .		'''Devotee:''' We have doctors, lawyers . . .
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	Professor Durckheim: He's simply a member?		Professor Durckheim: He's simply a member?

	Haṁsadūta: Yes. He is a member, he supports the movement, he follows the principles himself, he appreciates the philosophy, but he has his responsibility in the society. He acts as a member of the society and here as a member. But his lifestyle is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (end)		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Yes. He is a member, he supports the movement, he follows the principles himself, he appreciates the philosophy, but he has his responsibility in the society. He acts as a member of the society and here as a member. But his lifestyle is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (end)

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Zero.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Zero.

	Devotee: Zero.		'''Devotee:''' Zero.

	Professor Durckheim: Zero, yes. Well, zero from the point of view of view of the old ego it's zero, but this zero is everything from . . . (indistinct) . . . from the point of view of the natural ego it's zero and once you touch it, it's the plenitude, everything. It's beyond something and everything, as far as I understand it.		Professor Durckheim: Zero, yes. Well, zero from the point of view of view of the old ego it's zero, but this zero is everything from . . . (indistinct) . . . from the point of view of the natural ego it's zero and once you touch it, it's the plenitude, everything. It's beyond something and everything, as far as I understand it.
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	Professor Durckheim: Yes, how do you make them . . .		Professor Durckheim: Yes, how do you make them . . .

	Devotee: How do you teach them?		'''Devotee:''' How do you teach them?

	Professor Durckheim: . . . teach them to become aware of it? You see, now I listen, and that is, if you like, first a philosophy which contains the truth. I don't doubt it. But how to make feel?		Professor Durckheim: . . . teach them to become aware of it? You see, now I listen, and that is, if you like, first a philosophy which contains the truth. I don't doubt it. But how to make feel?
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	So we have to transcend the platform of intelligence also. Then we come to the platform of spiritual realization. That is instructed in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. (aside) What happened to your eyes?		So we have to transcend the platform of intelligence also. Then we come to the platform of spiritual realization. That is instructed in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. (aside) What happened to your eyes?

	Devotee: I was cut.		'''Devotee:''' I was cut.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' How?		'''Prabhupāda:''' How?

	Devotee: I was in an automobile accident.		'''Devotee:''' I was in an automobile accident.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh.
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	Satsvarūpa: Yes, but I . . . it's two. Chapter Two, verse 10. But the verse is not here. It is in the first volume. That book is not here.		Satsvarūpa: Yes, but I . . . it's two. Chapter Two, verse 10. But the verse is not here. It is in the first volume. That book is not here.

	Devotee: Someone is bringing.		'''Devotee:''' Someone is bringing.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' So he has gone?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So he has gone?

	Devotee: Yes.		'''Devotee:''' Yes.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that is explained, that how this human form of life should be utilized, these necessities of life, not for to complete the necessities. Necessities of life, they are already supplied by God. Just like the birds and beasts, they are getting their necessities of life. They have no organization or no business, no factory, but they are getting their necessities of life. So ''Bhāgavata'' says: "This is not the problem, to acquire only the necessities of life. The only business is to inquire about the Absolute Truth. That is human life." (aside) Read this verse.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that is explained, that how this human form of life should be utilized, these necessities of life, not for to complete the necessities. Necessities of life, they are already supplied by God. Just like the birds and beasts, they are getting their necessities of life. They have no organization or no business, no factory, but they are getting their necessities of life. So ''Bhāgavata'' says: "This is not the problem, to acquire only the necessities of life. The only business is to inquire about the Absolute Truth. That is human life." (aside) Read this verse.
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	(break) . . . distinction.		(break) . . . distinction.

	Devotee: (showing Śrīla Prabhupāda's books) This is German. This is in Spanish, Chinese.		'''Devotee:''' (showing Śrīla Prabhupāda's books) This is German. This is in Spanish, Chinese.

	Professor Porsch: (indistinct) . . . Chinese.		Professor Porsch: (indistinct) . . . Chinese.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Japanese also. And Hindi.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Japanese also. And Hindi.

	Devotee: Italian, French. Hindi also we have. Bengali, Gujarati.		'''Devotee:''' Italian, French. Hindi also we have. Bengali, Gujarati.

	Professor Porsch: But I also noticed on the faces of the devotees downstairs that many or several faces were, we would say in the West, sublimated, that the facial features showed that a certain form of sublimation had taken place. (German)		Professor Porsch: But I also noticed on the faces of the devotees downstairs that many or several faces were, we would say in the West, sublimated, that the facial features showed that a certain form of sublimation had taken place. (German)
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	Haṁsadūta: Yes, we have people in all walks of life. For example, we have the Ober-(German) from Baden Wurttemberg, he is a Life Member. And all people . . .		Haṁsadūta: Yes, we have people in all walks of life. For example, we have the Ober-(German) from Baden Wurttemberg, he is a Life Member. And all people . . .

	Devotee: We have doctors, lawyers . . .		'''Devotee:''' We have doctors, lawyers . . .

	Professor Durckheim: He's simply a member?		Professor Durckheim: He's simply a member?

	Haṁsadūta: Yes. He is a member, he supports the movement, he follows the principles himself, he appreciates the philosophy, but he has his responsibility in the society. He acts as a member of the society and here as a member. But his lifestyle is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (end)		Haṁsadūta: Yes. He is a member, he supports the movement, he follows the principles himself, he appreciates the philosophy, but he has his responsibility in the society. He acts as a member of the society and here as a member. But his lifestyle is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. (end)

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	So unless one is self-realized, he cannot be engaged in the service of the Supreme Self. Ordinarily, a master and a servant, a servant knows that "I am engaged by the master. He is giving me food, he is giving me shelter—he is giving me everything for his serving." So he is careful in his service. This is a material example. Similarly, self-realization, ultimately, as I told you, that first impersonal Brahman, then localized Paramātmā, and then the ''yogīs'', they realize the localized Paramātmā. ''Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ'' ([[SB 12.13.1\|SB 12.13.1]]). The ''yogīs'', they observe the Supersoul within himself, and they meditate upon Him. (aside:) What is that verse?		So unless one is self-realized, he cannot be engaged in the service of the Supreme Self. Ordinarily, a master and a servant, a servant knows that "I am engaged by the master. He is giving me food, he is giving me shelter—he is giving me everything for his serving." So he is careful in his service. This is a material example. Similarly, self-realization, ultimately, as I told you, that first impersonal Brahman, then localized Paramātmā, and then the ''yogīs'', they realize the localized Paramātmā. ''Dhyānāvasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ'' ([[SB 12.13.1\|SB 12.13.1]]). The ''yogīs'', they observe the Supersoul within himself, and they meditate upon Him. (aside) What is that verse?

	'''Satsvarūpa:'''		'''Satsvarūpa:'''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Self-realization, that is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', that one should understand that, "I am not enjoyer. Nobody is enjoyer." That is false. They are trying, endeavor, for enjoying this world, and that is false. Real enjoyer is the Supreme Lord. We are trying to occupy this land, that land. "This is Germany," "This is England," "This is France," "This is India," "This is my land, worshipable. Land is worshipable. It is my land." But he should know that no land belongs to us. Everything belongs to God. And this is a fact. The land is not created by us. The ocean is not created by us. Then why should we claim, "This is German ocean" and "This is English ocean"? This is all false imagination. So when it comes to this understanding that, "Nothing belongs to us . . ." The United Nation, they are fighting for the last twenty years, but they are fighting on the false ground, because everyone is thinking, "This land is mine. I must protect it." So they have no self-realization, and there is no peace.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Self-realization, that is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', that one should understand that, "I am not enjoyer. Nobody is enjoyer." That is false. They are trying, endeavor, for enjoying this world, and that is false. Real enjoyer is the Supreme Lord. We are trying to occupy this land, that land. "This is Germany," "This is England," "This is France," "This is India," "This is my land, worshipable. Land is worshipable. It is my land." But he should know that no land belongs to us. Everything belongs to God. And this is a fact. The land is not created by us. The ocean is not created by us. Then why should we claim, "This is German ocean" and "This is English ocean"? This is all false imagination. So when it comes to this understanding that, "Nothing belongs to us . . ." The United Nation, they are fighting for the last twenty years, but they are fighting on the false ground, because everyone is thinking, "This land is mine. I must protect it." So they have no self-realization, and there is no peace.

	'''Professor Durckheim:''' As soon two, two men who are realized, there is no war. There is a very wonderful story. When the Emperor of Japan took over the leadership again after having been for six hundred years only the high priest, now he wanted to be again the emperor. And he was submitting one ''dainu'' after the other one. Only one resisted, in Tokyo. General of Tokyo did not submit to the emperor and didn't allow anybody to come in to negotiate. So the emperor was very troubled. He said: "Should I burn down Tokyo? I wouldn't like to do it." And then his young sword~~(?)~~ master asked him—he was a realized man—"Do you permit me to just ride in this town and see the great general?" And he said: "Yes, you know the guards do not permit." "Let me do." He sat on horseback and just rode through. The guards, like this, let him pass. He announced himself to the great general. General said: "Yes, with him I am going to talk." And the general himself, being a self-realized man, said: "Well, all right." In twenty minutes things were in order, and they submitted gently, and without a single shot, peace was established. Because two men of a high level of self-realization met.		'''Professor Durckheim:''' As soon two, two men who are realized, there is no war. There is a very wonderful story. When the Emperor of Japan took over the leadership again after having been for six hundred years only the high priest, now he wanted to be again the emperor. And he was submitting one ''dainu'' after the other one. Only one resisted, in Tokyo. General of Tokyo did not submit to the emperor and didn't allow anybody to come in to negotiate. So the emperor was very troubled. He said: "Should I burn down Tokyo? I wouldn't like to do it." And then his young sword master asked him—he was a realized man—"Do you permit me to just ride in this town and see the great general?" And he said: "Yes, you know the guards do not permit." "Let me do." He sat on horseback and just rode through. The guards, like this, let him pass. He announced himself to the great general. General said: "Yes, with him I am going to talk." And the general himself, being a self-realized man, said: "Well, all right." In twenty minutes things were in order, and they submitted gently, and without a single shot, peace was established. Because two men of a high level of self-realization met.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So that is our point, that if we understand, every one of us realize, that we are all servant of God or sons of God, that everything belongs to God, so we can use our father's property for our maintenance as much as we require, not more than that. So if we think like that, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and there will be no more war, everything peaceful.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So that is our point, that if we understand, every one of us realize, that we are all servant of God or sons of God, that everything belongs to God, so we can use our father's property for our maintenance as much as we require, not more than that. So if we think like that, that is Kṛṣṇa consciousness, and there will be no more war, everything peaceful.
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	'''Professor Durckheim:''' Experience it.		'''Professor Durckheim:''' Experience it.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' This is experience. The Christian people, they go to church: "O God, give us our daily . . . father, give us our daily bread." So there is the supreme father. That is confirmed in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. (aside:) Find out this:		'''Prabhupāda:''' This is experience. The Christian people, they go to church: "O God, give us our daily . . . father, give us our daily bread." So there is the supreme father. That is confirmed in the ''Bhagavad-gītā''. (aside) Find out this:

	:''sarva-yoniṣu kaunteya''		:''sarva-yoniṣu kaunteya''
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. First of all find out from the index this verse, ''jīvasya tattva-jijñāsā nārtho yaś ceha karmabhiḥ.''		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. First of all find out from the index this verse, ''jīvasya tattva-jijñāsā nārtho yaś ceha karmabhiḥ.''

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. First of all find out from the index this verse, ''jīvasya tattva-jijñāsā nārtho yaś ceha karmabhiḥ. Kāmasya nendriya-prītir lābho jīveta yāvatā, jīvasya tattva-jijñāsā yaś . . . ~~Kāmasya~~ nendriya-prītiḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.10\|SB 1.2.10]]). Have you found?		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. First of all find out from the index this verse, ''jīvasya tattva-jijñāsā nārtho yaś ceha karmabhiḥ. Kāmasya nendriya-prītir lābho jīveta yāvatā, jīvasya tattva-jijñāsā yaś . . . kāmasya nendriya-prītiḥ'' ([[SB 1.2.10\|SB 1.2.10]]). Have you found?

	'''Satsvarūpa:''' Yes, but I . . . it's two. Chapter Two, verse 10. But the verse is not here. It is in the first volume. That book is not here.		'''Satsvarūpa:''' Yes, but I . . . it's two. Chapter Two, verse 10. But the verse is not here. It is in the first volume. That book is not here.
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	'''Professor Porsch:''' Yes. That is important.		'''Professor Porsch:''' Yes. That is important.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' We are educating our children in Dallas. We have got very good institution, Sanskrit and English, and they are reading these books. That is sufficient. If they read these books, all different department of knowledge will be acquired. ''Yasmin vijñāte sarvam evaṁ vijñātaṁ bhavati'' (''Muṇḍaka Upaniṣad'' 1.3). Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' We are educating our children in Dallas. We have got very good institution, Sanskrit and English, and they are reading these books. That is sufficient. If they read these books, all different department of knowledge will be acquired. ''Yasmin vijñāte sarvam evaṁ vijñātaṁ bhavati'' (Muṇḍaka Upaniṣad 1.3). Yes.

	'''Professor Porsch:''' Thank you.		'''Professor Porsch:''' Thank you.