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	'''Professor:''' Knowledge of the existence of a thing, of anything.		'''Professor:''' Knowledge of the existence of a thing, of anything.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The knowledge of existence, that ''nityaḥ-śāśvato 'yam'' ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]), ''nityaḥ ṣāṣvataḥ'', that is knowledge of existence. So you have to learn which is ''nitya'' and which is not ''nitya'' from the authority. "This is ''nitya'', and this is ''anitya''." So ''nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām'' (''Kaṭha Upaniṣad'' 2.2.13). These are the Vedic versions, "There is one chief ''nitya'' amongst the many ''nityas''." Just like we, we living entities, we are ''nityas'', eternal. First of all try to understand eternity. You were a child or I was a child. Now that body, child body, is no longer existing. But I understand, I know, that I had a body, child. That I am ''nitya''. I am existing. The body has gone, but I am existing. Therefore I am eternal, ''nitya''. Is it clear?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. The knowledge of existence, that ''nityaḥ-śāśvato 'yam'' ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]), ''nityaḥ ṣāṣvataḥ'', that is knowledge of existence. So you have to learn which is ''nitya'' and which is not ''nitya'' from the authority. "This is ''nitya'', and this is ''anitya''." So ''nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). These are the Vedic versions, "There is one chief ''nitya'' amongst the many ''nityas''." Just like we, we living entities, we are ''nityas'', eternal. First of all try to understand eternity. You were a child or I was a child. Now that body, child body, is no longer existing. But I understand, I know, that I had a body, child. That I am ''nitya''. I am existing. The body has gone, but I am existing. Therefore I am eternal, ''nitya''. Is it clear?

	'''Professor:''' Well, I remember one other explanation, that when you are sleeping and you have a dream . . .		'''Professor:''' Well, I remember one other explanation, that when you are sleeping and you have a dream . . .
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Existence of thing . . . I say that at night, when I am dreaming, I do not see existence of these things. And at this time, in daytime, when I am seeing these things, I do not see the existence of the dream. So the conclusion should be both these things I see in daytime and I see at night, they have no existence. They are phenomenal. But I am the seer, I am eternal. I am existing. This is the proof. Because at night I am seeing and daytime I am seeing, so therefore I am eternal. But the phenomenal manifestation, they are temporary. We don't say it is false. Temporary. The Māyāvādī philo . . . ''śaṅkara'' said it is false. ''Brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. Mithyā'' means false. We don't say false. We don't say that this book is false. It has got reality, but temporary. This book has come into form at a certain date, and it will exist for certain days, and when it will be worn out or old, there will be no existence. Therefore the formation of this book is temporary. But I am the reader of the book; I am eternal. So two things are there—temporary and eternal. The temporary existence, somebody says "False," but we say: "It is not false; it is temporary." But there is an eternal existence. Just like I am eternal. That is . . . we have to learn from ''śabda'', vibration. ''Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre'' ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]). You understand Sanskrit. ''Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre''. That eternal thing is exist, existing, it will continue to exist. Even after the destruction of this temporary body, it will continue to exist.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Existence of thing . . . I say that at night, when I am dreaming, I do not see existence of these things. And at this time, in daytime, when I am seeing these things, I do not see the existence of the dream. So the conclusion should be both these things I see in daytime and I see at night, they have no existence. They are phenomenal. But I am the seer, I am eternal. I am existing. This is the proof. Because at night I am seeing and daytime I am seeing, so therefore I am eternal. But the phenomenal manifestation, they are temporary. We don't say it is false. Temporary. The Māyāvādī philo . . . ''śaṅkara'' said it is false. ''Brahma satyaṁ jagan mithyā. Mithyā'' means false. We don't say false. We don't say that this book is false. It has got reality, but temporary. This book has come into form at a certain date, and it will exist for certain days, and when it will be worn out or old, there will be no existence. Therefore the formation of this book is temporary. But I am the reader of the book; I am eternal. So two things are there—temporary and eternal. The temporary existence, somebody says "False," but we say: "It is not false; it is temporary." But there is an eternal existence. Just like I am eternal. That is . . . we have to learn from ''śabda'', vibration. ''Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre'' ([[BG 2.20 (1972)\|BG 2.20]]). You understand Sanskrit. ''Na hanyate hanyamāne śarīre''. That eternal thing is exist, existing, it will continue to exist. Even after the destruction of this temporary body, it will continue to exist.

	'''Professor:''' But coming again to the question that Dr . . . . (indistinct) . . . put to you, but it is possible to understand all those things . . . (indistinct) . . . and hear in the sense of . . . (indistinct) . . .?		'''Professor:''' But coming again to the question that Dr . . . (indistinct) . . . put to you, but it is possible to understand all those things . . . (indistinct) . . . and hear in the sense of . . . (indistinct) . . .?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You have to understand . . . I have already said that we have got our imperfect senses. We cannot understand. But we have to understand from a person who has got perfect knowledge.		'''Prabhupāda:''' You have to understand . . . I have already said that we have got our imperfect senses. We cannot understand. But we have to understand from a person who has got perfect knowledge.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the purpose. There is no difficulty to understand what is the purpose. The purpose is pleasure-seeking. Or purpose is pleasure. One who hasn't got the pleasure, he's seeking after it. That is the purpose. Purpose is ''ānanda. Ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt'' (''Vedānta-sūtra'' 1.1.12). That is the ''Vedānta-sūtra''. Every one of us, seeking ''ānanda''. The scientific knowledge, philosophy, or even driving the car or whatever you are doing—the purpose is ''ānanda''. That is a common factor. Purpose is . . . why I am eating palatable dishes? I can eat anything, but I am seeking that, "This sort of foodstuff will please me." That is ''ānanda''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' That is the purpose. There is no difficulty to understand what is the purpose. The purpose is pleasure-seeking. Or purpose is pleasure. One who hasn't got the pleasure, he's seeking after it. That is the purpose. Purpose is ''ānanda. Ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt'' (Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12). That is the ''Vedānta-sūtra''. Every one of us, seeking ''ānanda''. The scientific knowledge, philosophy, or even driving the car or whatever you are doing—the purpose is ''ānanda''. That is a common factor. Purpose is . . . why I am eating palatable dishes? I can eat anything, but I am seeking that, "This sort of foodstuff will please me." That is ''ānanda''.

	'''Guest (1):''' That is driving force and motivation of most of human activities. But the question, purpose, which Leibniz was asking for, he was asking on higher plane, in abstraction.		'''Guest (1):''' That is driving force and motivation of most of human activities. But the question, purpose, which Leibniz was asking for, he was asking on higher plane, in abstraction.
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	'''Professor:''' I read a succession, or something like that.		'''Professor:''' I read a succession, or something like that.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā: evam paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ'' ([[BG 4.2 (1972)\|BG 4.2]]). Without that ''paramparā'', the knowledge is not perfect. (aside:) Give them ''prasāda''. Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. That is stated in the ''Bhagavad-gītā: evam paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ'' ([[BG 4.2 (1972)\|BG 4.2]]). Without that ''paramparā'', the knowledge is not perfect. (aside) Give them ''prasāda''. Hmm?

	'''Hṛdayānanda:''' We're going to bring you some ''prasādam''? Spiritual food.		'''Hṛdayānanda:''' We're going to bring you some ''prasādam''? Spiritual food.

	'''Professor:''' (to devotees:) You prepared . . . (indistinct) . . . you have traveled in all Latin America now?		'''Professor:''' (to devotees) You prepared . . . (indistinct) . . . you have traveled in all Latin America now?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. I have traveled all over the world in eight years. Eight years?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. I have traveled all over the world in eight years. Eight years?
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	'''Hṛdayānanda:''' (explaining) If music is important to us?		'''Hṛdayānanda:''' (explaining) If music is important to us?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, first of all, our basic principle is pleasure. So whatever gives pleasure, we accept. That is natural. But in the material world, they take material pleasure, but we are for spiritual pleasure. So as soon as we speak of pleasure, there must be varieties. Without . . . "Variety is the mother of enjoyment." So the only thing is that the material pleasure, that is temporary. It is finished after certain period. And spiritual means eternal. So our endeavor is to transfer ourself from this material pleasure to the spiritual pleasure. But the pleasure is the aim, either in this material world or in the spiritual world. This is . . . ''ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt'' (''Vedānta-sūtra'' 1.1.12). This is the Vedic . . . our position is ''ānandamaya'', to remain in pleasure. But here in this material world, the body is temporary, and everything is temporary. Therefore pleasure is temporary.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, first of all, our basic principle is pleasure. So whatever gives pleasure, we accept. That is natural. But in the material world, they take material pleasure, but we are for spiritual pleasure. So as soon as we speak of pleasure, there must be varieties. Without . . . "Variety is the mother of enjoyment." So the only thing is that the material pleasure, that is temporary. It is finished after certain period. And spiritual means eternal. So our endeavor is to transfer ourself from this material pleasure to the spiritual pleasure. But the pleasure is the aim, either in this material world or in the spiritual world. This is . . . ''ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt'' (Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12). This is the Vedic . . . our position is ''ānandamaya'', to remain in pleasure. But here in this material world, the body is temporary, and everything is temporary. Therefore pleasure is temporary.

	'''Professor:''' You could also, I think, kind of a ''yoga'' system for . . .		'''Professor:''' You could also, I think, kind of a ''yoga'' system for . . .

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