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	"No one can understand the transcendental nature of the name, form, quality and pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa through his materially contaminated senses. Only when one becomes spiritually saturated by transcendental service to the Lord are the transcendental name, form, quality and pastimes of the Lord revealed to him." (''Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu'' 1.2.234): you cannot see Kṛṣṇa, but as soon as you become purified, He reveals Himself. It is not due to you that you can see. When Kṛṣṇa allows Himself to be seen by you, then you can see. So you have to become qualified to see Him, otherwise He is everywhere present. We can see Him. And without being qualified, if you want to see Him, that is not possible. ''Nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ sarvasya yoga-māyā samāvṛtaḥ'' ([[BG 7.25 (1972)\|BG 7.25]]). Find out this verse.		"No one can understand the transcendental nature of the name, form, quality and pastimes of Śrī Kṛṣṇa through his materially contaminated senses. Only when one becomes spiritually saturated by transcendental service to the Lord are the transcendental name, form, quality and pastimes of the Lord revealed to him." (Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu 1.2.234): you cannot see Kṛṣṇa, but as soon as you become purified, He reveals Himself. It is not due to you that you can see. When Kṛṣṇa allows Himself to be seen by you, then you can see. So you have to become qualified to see Him, otherwise He is everywhere present. We can see Him. And without being qualified, if you want to see Him, that is not possible. ''Nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ sarvasya yoga-māyā samāvṛtaḥ'' ([[BG 7.25 (1972)\|BG 7.25]]). Find out this verse.

	'''Amogha:''' Chapter Seven, verse 25.		'''Amogha:''' Chapter Seven, verse 25.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' It is explained there. He does not reveal Himself. Why He shall reveal Himself to an unqualified person? That is Kṛṣṇa's prerogative. If He likes, He will reveal. If He does not like, He will not reveal. You cannot by force see Kṛṣṇa. Therefore, first of all be qualified, then try to see Kṛṣṇa. He is not exposed. Even a big man, if you want to see him, he may refuse, "No, I cannot see him." What can you do? If you think that, "This man is third-class man, why shall I see him?" Even in ordinary human society that is going on. So why people are eager to see Kṛṣṇa without being qualified? Why these rascals say, "Can you show me God?" First of all you become fit to see God. They'll not become fit. They'll do all nonsense, and "We'll see God." Kṛṣṇa is addressed, ''pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān'' ([[BG 10.12-13 (1972)\|BG 10.12]]). He is the supreme pure, and we are impure, and you want to see the supreme pure. You see? What audacity! I am not fire, I want to enter into the fire. You see? What will be the result? You'll be burned into ashes. First of all be fire. Increase your temperature to the same temperature, then it will automatically. He is Para-brahman, so you realize yourself as Brahman. You are realizing yourself as American, Indian, this, that, and you want to see Para-brahman? The foolish people will do like that. And one has to become purified, ''sarvopādhi vinirmuktaṁ'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). One has to be free from all designations. Everyone, we give more prominence to the designations: "I am this, I am this." So how can you see God like that? First of all you become designationless. As Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, that "I am not a ''Brāhmiṇ''. I am not a ''kṣatriya''. I am not a ''vaiśya''"—everything He denied.		'''Prabhupāda:''' It is explained there. He does not reveal Himself. Why He shall reveal Himself to an unqualified person? That is Kṛṣṇa's prerogative. If He likes, He will reveal. If He does not like, He will not reveal. You cannot by force see Kṛṣṇa. Therefore, first of all be qualified, then try to see Kṛṣṇa. He is not exposed. Even a big man, if you want to see him, he may refuse, "No, I cannot see him." What can you do? If you think that, "This man is third-class man, why shall I see him?" Even in ordinary human society that is going on. So why people are eager to see Kṛṣṇa without being qualified? Why these rascals say, "Can you show me God?" First of all you become fit to see God. They'll not become fit. They'll do all nonsense, and "We'll see God." Kṛṣṇa is addressed, ''pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān'' ([[BG 10.12-13 (1972)\|BG 10.12]]). He is the supreme pure, and we are impure, and you want to see the supreme pure. You see? What audacity! I am not fire, I want to enter into the fire. You see? What will be the result? You'll be burned into ashes. First of all be fire. Increase your temperature to the same temperature, then it will automatically. He is Para-brahman, so you realize yourself as Brahman. You are realizing yourself as American, Indian, this, that, and you want to see Para-brahman? The foolish people will do like that. And one has to become purified, ''sarvopādhi vinirmuktaṁ'' ([[CC Madhya 19.170\|CC Madhya 19.170]]). One has to be free from all designations. Everyone, we give more prominence to the designations: "I am this, I am this." So how can you see God like that? First of all you become designationless. As Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, that "I am not a ''Brāhmiṇ''. I am not a ''kṣatriya''. I am not a ''vaiśya''"—everything He denied.

	So purify yourself and you'll see God, whatever . . . (indistinct) . . . so Kṛṣṇa consciousness means to become purified. Then you'll see always. ''Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva'' (Bs. 5.38). ''Sadaiva'' means always. This is the process. Why these rascals say: "Can you show me God?" What qualification you have got? He doesn't think like that, that "I have no qualification." He thinks that, "I am very advanced." That is foolishness. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, ''nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ''. Similarly, a third-class man goes to a high-court judge . . . (indistinct) . . . and the Justice is saying, "Who is that?" "I don't know." There was an incident, one big philosopher and one big dramatic player. He was also very famous. So he went to see that philosopher and sent his card. He said, "Oh, why shall I see this dancing dog? He may be famous as a dancing dog, but I have no business with him . . . (indistinct) . . . philosopher. If some philosopher comes, then it will be a pleasure to talk with him. What does he know? He may be expert in dancing. It is not philosophy." So he refused to see him. "Why shall I see this dancing dog?" He used these words, "He's a dancing dog." He came, as a dog is dancing." So similarly, why this ordinary man claims to see God? A dancing dog. A devotee says that ''marma-hatāṁ karotu vā'' (''Śikṣāṣṭaka'' 8). A devotee is always anxious to see God, but He said that "I am not qualified. So even I become broken-hearted not seeing God, still Kṛṣṇa is My Lord. I may see, or may not see. That is His mercy. But in all circumstances, He is My worshipful Lord." That is devotee. "Oh, I could not see God? I have done so much." Kṛṣṇa is not so obliged that because by concoction you think you have done something, and therefore He is obliged to come before you and dance. Kṛṣṇa is not so little.		So purify yourself and you'll see God, whatever . . . (indistinct) . . . so Kṛṣṇa consciousness means to become purified. Then you'll see always. ''Premāñjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santaḥ sadaiva'' (Bs. 5.38). ''Sadaiva'' means always. This is the process. Why these rascals say: "Can you show me God?" What qualification you have got? He doesn't think like that, that "I have no qualification." He thinks that, "I am very advanced." That is foolishness. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says, ''nāhaṁ prakāśaḥ''. Similarly, a third-class man goes to a high-court judge . . . (indistinct) . . . and the Justice is saying, "Who is that?" "I don't know." There was an incident, one big philosopher and one big dramatic player. He was also very famous. So he went to see that philosopher and sent his card. He said, "Oh, why shall I see this dancing dog? He may be famous as a dancing dog, but I have no business with him . . . (indistinct) . . . philosopher. If some philosopher comes, then it will be a pleasure to talk with him. What does he know? He may be expert in dancing. It is not philosophy." So he refused to see him. "Why shall I see this dancing dog?" He used these words, "He's a dancing dog." He came, as a dog is dancing." So similarly, why this ordinary man claims to see God? A dancing dog. A devotee says that ''marma-hatāṁ karotu vā'' (Śikṣāṣṭaka 8). A devotee is always anxious to see God, but He said that "I am not qualified. So even I become broken-hearted not seeing God, still Kṛṣṇa is My Lord. I may see, or may not see. That is His mercy. But in all circumstances, He is My worshipful Lord." That is devotee. "Oh, I could not see God? I have done so much." Kṛṣṇa is not so obliged that because by concoction you think you have done something, and therefore He is obliged to come before you and dance. Kṛṣṇa is not so little.

	'''Paramahaṁsa:''' In this connection you have quoted Lord Brahmā saying that . . . Lord Brahmā says that the great material scientists, they may be able to calculate the atomic structure of the material world and the planetary system, but even if Kṛṣṇa is standing right in front of them, they can't calculate His potencies.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' In this connection you have quoted Lord Brahmā saying that . . . Lord Brahmā says that the great material scientists, they may be able to calculate the atomic structure of the material world and the planetary system, but even if Kṛṣṇa is standing right in front of them, they can't calculate His potencies.

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	'''Paramahaṁsa:''' So that point is not so important, whether Kṛṣṇa is coming from Viṣṇu or Viṣṇu is coming from Kṛṣṇa.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' So that point is not so important, whether Kṛṣṇa is coming from Viṣṇu or Viṣṇu is coming from Kṛṣṇa.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that is not important. Because, actually both of Them the same, the Supreme. That example we give that candle, two candles, that so far the power of lighting is concerned, both of them equal. Now, you may say this is first candle, I say if it is first candle. But so far the power is concerned, there is no difference of opinion. If I love somebody, I'll say he is first, and if you love somebody, you'll say he is first. But both of them same. Just like devotees: some devotees are very . . . Hanumānjī, he'll never accept Kṛṣṇa. And the ''gopīs'' will never accept Rāma or Viṣṇu. So far the Kṛṣṇa and Viṣṇu, They are all the same. (aside) What is that?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, that is not important. Because, actually both of Them the same, the Supreme. That example we give that candle, two candles, that so far the power of lighting is concerned, both of them equal. Now, you may say this is first candle, I say if it is first candle. But so far the power is concerned, there is no difference of opinion. If I love somebody, I'll say he is first, and if you love somebody, you'll say he is first. But both of them same. Just like devotees: some devotees are very . . . Hanumānjī, he'll never accept Kṛṣṇa. And the gopīs will never accept Rāma or Viṣṇu. So far the Kṛṣṇa and Viṣṇu, They are all the same. (aside) What is that?

	'''Paramahaṁsa:''' I think perhaps the other boy has come back . . . (indistinct) . . . so actually the differences, whatever little differences may arise, those differences amongst the ''ācāryas'', they are due to feelings of . . . different feelings of love for Kṛṣṇa or His manifestations.		'''Paramahaṁsa:''' I think perhaps the other boy has come back . . . (indistinct) . . . so actually the differences, whatever little differences may arise, those differences amongst the ''ācāryas'', they are due to feelings of . . . different feelings of love for Kṛṣṇa or His manifestations.

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