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RasaRasika at 04:13, 10 November 2023

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	So advanced Westerners, they are now educated in science philosophy, they are not attracted with these dogmatic views. So to remain in ignorance is animal life. To be enlightened is human life. And the topmost enlightenment is to understand God and to love Him. That is topmost enlightenment. Unfortunately, there is no education to know what is God, and what to speak of loving Him. This is modern civilization—ignorance. A civilization of ignorance. They do not know what is what. Simply speculating, wasting time, talking all nonsense. This is going on in the name of education. But actually they are in ignorance. They do not know what is what. They are reading so many philosophical speculation, horrible condition of the so-called philosopher, scientist. Simply "I believe," "In this believe, that believe." You believe . . . I believe something. That is your . . . (indistinct) . . . your belief is not final. That is creating chaotic condition. You believe some way, I believe something, he believes something. What is the profit? Chaos.		So advanced Westerners, they are now educated in science philosophy, they are not attracted with these dogmatic views. So to remain in ignorance is animal life. To be enlightened is human life. And the topmost enlightenment is to understand God and to love Him. That is topmost enlightenment. Unfortunately, there is no education to know what is God, and what to speak of loving Him. This is modern civilization—ignorance. A civilization of ignorance. They do not know what is what. Simply speculating, wasting time, talking all nonsense. This is going on in the name of education. But actually they are in ignorance. They do not know what is what. They are reading so many philosophical speculation, horrible condition of the so-called philosopher, scientist. Simply "I believe," "In this believe, that believe." You believe . . . I believe something. That is your . . . (indistinct) . . . your belief is not final. That is creating chaotic condition. You believe some way, I believe something, he believes something. What is the profit? Chaos.

	So all these philosophers, scientists, they believe, "I believe," as if his belief will be a doctrine. Why he believes like that? People also accept like that. Nobody questions that a person says: "I believe," that means he is not in perfect knowledge. But in Vedic ''śāstra'', there is no question of belief. This is the fact. ''Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi'' (''Padma Purāṇa''). It never says that, "I believe there are so many aquatics." No. Clear declaration, ''jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi'': there are nine hundred thousand different forms of life in the water. ''Bās''. This is Vedic knowledge. It never says: "I believe." What is the meaning of belief? You must know definitely and declare it. That is Vedic knowledge. Speculation is not allowed. Truth must be declared as it is. (aside:) That Bengali woman wanted to see me? Mrs. Dasgupta.		So all these philosophers, scientists, they believe, "I believe," as if his belief will be a doctrine. Why he believes like that? People also accept like that. Nobody questions that a person says: "I believe," that means he is not in perfect knowledge. But in Vedic ''śāstra'', there is no question of belief. This is the fact. ''Jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi'' (Padma Purāṇa). It never says that, "I believe there are so many aquatics." No. Clear declaration, ''jalajā nava-lakṣāṇi'': there are nine hundred thousand different forms of life in the water. ''Bās''. This is Vedic knowledge. It never says: "I believe." What is the meaning of belief? You must know definitely and declare it. That is Vedic knowledge. Speculation is not allowed. Truth must be declared as it is. (aside) That Bengali woman wanted to see me? Mrs. Dasgupta.

	'''Mādhavānanda:''' I sent someone to find her.		'''Mādhavānanda:''' I sent someone to find her.
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	'''Mother:''' Thank you, Prabhupāda. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (guests leave)		'''Mother:''' Thank you, Prabhupāda. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (guests leave)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm. Both of them are good, mother and son. What happened to that machine? (break) . . . say there is no father, and there is no God. A man who is speaking nonsense like this, he is born by a father. And where he gets the idea that without father the child is born?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm. Both of them are good, mother and son. What happened to that machine? (break) . . . say there is no father, and there is no God. A man who is speaking nonsense like this, he is born by a father. And where he gets the idea that without father the child is born?

	'''Hari-śauri:''' Doctor Frog.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Doctor Frog.

RasaRasika at 03:45, 8 November 2023

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