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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	'''Indian woman:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Main hindi me bol sakti hoon. Jo hai wo</span> soul <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">ek hota hai</span> person <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">ka to marne ke baad jab doosri sharir me apne karmanusar chala jata hai doosri yoni me to pitra phir us insaan ke us kul ke liye kaise reh jata hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can I speak in Hindi? The soul is one. The person after leaving the body, the soul, enters another body and according to their past deeds, they enter into another family. Then the forefathers for that person's lineage, how does it stay back?</span>		'''Indian woman:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Main hindi me bol sakti hoon. Jo hai wo</span> soul <span style="color:#ec710e">ek hota hai</span> person <span style="color:#ec710e">ka to marne ke baad jab doosri sharir me apne karmanusar chala jata hai doosri yoni me to pitra phir us insaan ke us kul ke liye kaise reh jata hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can I speak in Hindi? The soul is one. The person after leaving the body, the soul, enters another body and according to their past deeds, they enter into another family. Then the forefathers for that person's lineage, how does it stay back?</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Pitar''. What is this ''pitar''?		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Pitar''. What is this ''pitar''?
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So there are different processes. English <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">samajh leti hain aap? Ye</span> Bhagavad-gītā <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">me bataya hai marne ke baad jo maha papi hota hai vo nark lok me jata hai kutta hota hai aur jo sadharan jo apna theek - theek kaam karke bolta hai uska</span> ambition <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">hota hai, koi sochta hai hum swarg-lok me jaye. Sahdharan yehi samajhta hai. Kisika maut ho gaya to bolta hai 'pitaji aap swargwas ho gaya'. Itna hi wo samajhta hai ki swarg - lok aur prithvi-lok bhi hai aur ye do hai, aur hai brahm-lok hai, satya-lok hai, bhu-lok hai, golok hai, wo bhi hai. To ye sab dikhne me</span> Bhagavad-gītā <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">acchi tarah se bataya hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can you understand English? In the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is stated that after leaving the body, one who is a sinful person, he goes to hell and becomes a dog. And an ordinary being, who does his work with clean conscience has an ambition, he thinks I must go to heaven. The ordinary being understands this only. If anyone dies then they say: "Father you have gone to heaven". He can understand only this much, that there is earth planet and heaven. He does not do there are other worlds like Brahma planet, Satya planet, Bhu planet, and Goloka is there also. So ''Bhagavad-gītā'' explains all these planets very nicely.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So there are different processes. English <span style="color:#ec710e">samajh leti hain aap? Ye</span> Bhagavad-gītā <span style="color:#ec710e">me bataya hai marne ke baad jo maha papi hota hai vo nark lok me jata hai kutta hota hai aur jo sadharan jo apna theek - theek kaam karke bolta hai uska</span> ambition <span style="color:#ec710e">hota hai, koi sochta hai hum swarg-lok me jaye. Sahdharan yehi samajhta hai. Kisika maut ho gaya to bolta hai 'pitaji aap swargwas ho gaya'. Itna hi wo samajhta hai ki swarg - lok aur prithvi-lok bhi hai aur ye do hai, aur hai brahm-lok hai, satya-lok hai, bhu-lok hai, golok hai, wo bhi hai. To ye sab dikhne me</span> Bhagavad-gītā <span style="color:#ec710e">acchi tarah se bataya hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can you understand English? In the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is stated that after leaving the body, one who is a sinful person, he goes to hell and becomes a dog. And an ordinary being, who does his work with clean conscience has an ambition, he thinks I must go to heaven. The ordinary being understands this only. If anyone dies then they say: "Father you have gone to heaven". He can understand only this much, that there is earth planet and heaven. He does not do there are other worlds like Brahma planet, Satya planet, Bhu planet, and Goloka is there also. So ''Bhagavad-gītā'' explains all these planets very nicely.)</span>

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	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Aap jaise chahe, kahan jana chahte hain aap uska nischay kar lijiye aur shastra me uska vidhi hai to samsar aap pas kijiye to us lok me aap ja sakte hain. Ye vichar hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(What you desire, where you want to go, you decide that and there is a procedure in the scriptures. You finish your earthly duties and you can go there. This is the thinking.)</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Aap jaise chahe, kahan jana chahte hain aap uska nischay kar lijiye aur shastra me uska vidhi hai to samsar aap pas kijiye to us lok me aap ja sakte hain. Ye vichar hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(What you desire, where you want to go, you decide that and there is a procedure in the scriptures. You finish your earthly duties and you can go there. This is the thinking.)</span>

	'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Prashn ye hai ki</span> husband-wife <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">hote hain to</span> husband <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">ko itna</span> belief <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">nahi hota hai</span> God <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">me aur</span> wife <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">ko hota hai to us</span> wife <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">ka kya aage . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(The question is this that husband-wife are there, so the husband does not have very firm faith in God but the wife has full faith—so what happens to the wife in future . . .</span>		'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Prashn ye hai ki</span> husband-wife <span style="color:#ec710e">hote hain to</span> husband <span style="color:#ec710e">ko itna</span> belief <span style="color:#ec710e">nahi hota hai</span> God <span style="color:#ec710e">me aur</span> wife <span style="color:#ec710e">ko hota hai to us</span> wife <span style="color:#ec710e">ka kya aage . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(The question is this that husband-wife are there, so the husband does not have very firm faith in God but the wife has full faith—so what happens to the wife in future . . .</span>

	'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Wo apne dham me jayega aur wo apne dham me jayega.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He will go to his planet and you will go to your planet.)</span> (end)		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Wo apne dham me jayega aur wo apne dham me jayega.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He will go to his planet and you will go to your planet.)</span> (end)

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So there are different processes. English <span style="color:#ff9933">samajh leti hain aap? Ye</span> ''Bhagavad-gītā'' <span style="color:#ff9933">me bataya hai marne ke baad jo maha papi hota hai vo nark lok me jata hai kutta hota hai aur jo sadharan jo apna theek - theek kaam karke bolta hai uska</span> ambition <span style="color:#ff9933">hota hai, koi sochta hai hum swarg-lok me jaye. Sahdharan yehi samajhta hai. Kisika maut ho gaya to bolta hai 'pitaji aap swargwas ho gaya'. Itna hi wo samajhta hai ki swarg - lok aur prithvi-lok bhi hai aur ye do hai, aur hai brahm-lok hai, satya-lok hai, bhu-lok hai, golok hai, wo bhi hai. To ye sab dikhne me</span> ''Bhagavad-gītā'' <span style="color:#ff9933">acchi tarah se bataya hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can you understand English? In the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is stated that after leaving the body, one who is a sinful person, he goes to hell and becomes a dog. And an ordinary being, who does his work with clean conscience has an ambition, he thinks I must go to heaven. The ordinary being understands this only. If anyone dies then they say: "Father you have gone to heaven". He can understand only this much, that there is earth planet and heaven. He does not do there are other worlds like Brahma planet, Satya planet, Bhu planet, and Goloka is there also. So ''Bhagavad-gītā'' explains all these planets very nicely.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So there are different processes. English <span style="color:#ff9933">samajh leti hain aap? Ye</span> Bhagavad-gītā <span style="color:#ff9933">me bataya hai marne ke baad jo maha papi hota hai vo nark lok me jata hai kutta hota hai aur jo sadharan jo apna theek - theek kaam karke bolta hai uska</span> ambition <span style="color:#ff9933">hota hai, koi sochta hai hum swarg-lok me jaye. Sahdharan yehi samajhta hai. Kisika maut ho gaya to bolta hai 'pitaji aap swargwas ho gaya'. Itna hi wo samajhta hai ki swarg - lok aur prithvi-lok bhi hai aur ye do hai, aur hai brahm-lok hai, satya-lok hai, bhu-lok hai, golok hai, wo bhi hai. To ye sab dikhne me</span> Bhagavad-gītā <span style="color:#ff9933">acchi tarah se bataya hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can you understand English? In the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it is stated that after leaving the body, one who is a sinful person, he goes to hell and becomes a dog. And an ordinary being, who does his work with clean conscience has an ambition, he thinks I must go to heaven. The ordinary being understands this only. If anyone dies then they say: "Father you have gone to heaven". He can understand only this much, that there is earth planet and heaven. He does not do there are other worlds like Brahma planet, Satya planet, Bhu planet, and Goloka is there also. So ''Bhagavad-gītā'' explains all these planets very nicely.)</span>

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	Another, this process, is those who are not Kṛṣṇa conscious . . . ''~~Matir~~ na kṛṣṇe''. Their consciousness is not for Kṛṣṇa. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe''. Why they are not Kṛṣṇa conscious? They cannot be? No, they cannot be. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā'', by personal deliberation or by congregation deliberation, ''svato mitho. Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ'', or by the instruction of the spiritual master. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā mitho 'bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām''.		Another, this process, is those who are not Kṛṣṇa conscious . . . ''matir na kṛṣṇe''. Their consciousness is not for Kṛṣṇa. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe''. Why they are not Kṛṣṇa conscious? They cannot be? No, they cannot be. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā'', by personal deliberation or by congregation deliberation, ''svato mitho. Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ'', or by the instruction of the spiritual master. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā mitho 'bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām''.

	''Gṛha-vratānām. Gṛha'', there are different meanings of ''gṛha''. Especially ''gṛha'', we mean the home, house. ''Gṛha-vrata'' and ''gṛhastha'', they are two different. ''Gṛhastha'' means although he is in ''gṛha'', household life, his purpose is to go back to home, back to Godhead. They are called ''gṛhastha''. And whose only purpose is to live at home—decorate the home, decorate the wife, decorate the children and make money to live very comfortably—they are called ''gṛha-vrata'' or ''gṛhamedhi''. They are not ''gṛhastha''. ''Gṛhastha'' means although he's living with wife, children, family, but his purpose is how to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, how to go back home, back. They are called ''gṛhastha''. So ''gṛhasthāśrama'' is as good as other ''āśramas''. There are four ''āśramas''. Vedic civilization means four ''varṇas'' and four ''āśramas'': ''brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra'', and ''brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha'' and ''sannyāsa''. So those who are not following this principle of ''varṇāśrama-dharma'', living like cats and dogs—they also live with wife, children—that sort of living is called ''gṛha-vrata''. ''Gṛha-vratānām''. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe'': "They cannot become Kṛṣṇa conscious." ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā mitho 'bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām''. Why? Now, ''adānta-gobhiḥ''. ''Go'' means senses. ''Go'' means cow. ''Go'' means land also. So anyone who has taken the vow of sense gratification . . . that is the modern world, that "Somehow or other, satisfy senses." They cannot control the senses. ''Adānta-go. Adānta''. ''Dānta'' means control. ''Adānta'', not controlled. ''Adānta-gobhiḥ''. So what is that? ''Viśatāṁ tamisram:'' "They are going towards hell," because this sense gratification process, unrestricted sense gratification process, he is creating a situation of different mentality, and that mentality will be prominent at the time of death, and according to that situation he'll get his next birth. ''Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran bhāvaṁ tyajaty ante kalevaram'' ([[BG 8.6 (1972)\|BG 8.6]]).		''Gṛha-vratānām. Gṛha'', there are different meanings of ''gṛha''. Especially ''gṛha'', we mean the home, house. ''Gṛha-vrata'' and ''gṛhastha'', they are two different. ''Gṛhastha'' means although he is in ''gṛha'', household life, his purpose is to go back to home, back to Godhead. They are called ''gṛhastha''. And whose only purpose is to live at home—decorate the home, decorate the wife, decorate the children and make money to live very comfortably—they are called ''gṛha-vrata'' or ''gṛhamedhi''. They are not ''gṛhastha''. ''Gṛhastha'' means although he's living with wife, children, family, but his purpose is how to become Kṛṣṇa conscious, how to go back home, back. They are called ''gṛhastha''. So ''gṛhasthāśrama'' is as good as other ''āśramas''. There are four ''āśramas''. Vedic civilization means four ''varṇas'' and four ''āśramas'': ''brāhmaṇa, kṣatriya, vaiśya, śūdra'', and ''brahmacārī, gṛhastha, vānaprastha'' and ''sannyāsa''. So those who are not following this principle of ''varṇāśrama-dharma'', living like cats and dogs—they also live with wife, children—that sort of living is called ''gṛha-vrata''. ''Gṛha-vratānām''. ''Matir na kṛṣṇe'': "They cannot become Kṛṣṇa conscious." ''Matir na kṛṣṇe parataḥ svato vā mitho 'bhipadyeta gṛha-vratānām''. Why? Now, ''adānta-gobhiḥ''. ''Go'' means senses. ''Go'' means cow. ''Go'' means land also. So anyone who has taken the vow of sense gratification . . . that is the modern world, that "Somehow or other, satisfy senses." They cannot control the senses. ''Adānta-go. Adānta''. ''Dānta'' means control. ''Adānta'', not controlled. ''Adānta-gobhiḥ''. So what is that? ''Viśatāṁ tamisram:'' "They are going towards hell," because this sense gratification process, unrestricted sense gratification process, he is creating a situation of different mentality, and that mentality will be prominent at the time of death, and according to that situation he'll get his next birth. ''Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran bhāvaṁ tyajaty ante kalevaram'' ([[BG 8.6 (1972)\|BG 8.6]]).

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