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	:''eko devo nitya-līlānurakto''		:''eko devo nitya-līlānurakto''
	:''bhakta-vyāpī hṛdy antar-ātmā''		:''bhakta-vyāpī hṛdy antar-ātmā''
	:(''Puruṣa-bodhinī Upaniṣad'')		:(Puruṣa-bodhinī Upaniṣad)

	"The one Supreme Personality of Godhead is eternally engaged in many, many transcendental forms in relationships with His unalloyed devotees.' This Vedic version is confirmed in this verse of the ''Gītā'' personally by the Lord. He who accepts this truth on the strength of the authority of the ''Vedas'' and of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and who does not waste time in philosophical speculations, attains the highest perfectional stage of liberation. Simply by accepting this truth on faith, one can, without a doubt, attain liberation. The Vedic version, tat ''tvam asi'', is actually applied in this case. Anyone who understands Lord Kṛṣṇa to be the Supreme, or who says unto the Lord, 'You are the Supreme Brahman, the Personality of Godhead,' is certainly liberated instantly, and consequently his entrance into the transcendental association of the Lord is guaranteed. In other words, such a faithful devotee of the Lord attains perfection, and this is confirmed by the following Vedic assertion:"		"The one Supreme Personality of Godhead is eternally engaged in many, many transcendental forms in relationships with His unalloyed devotees.' This Vedic version is confirmed in this verse of the ''Gītā'' personally by the Lord. He who accepts this truth on the strength of the authority of the ''Vedas'' and of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and who does not waste time in philosophical speculations, attains the highest perfectional stage of liberation. Simply by accepting this truth on faith, one can, without a doubt, attain liberation. The Vedic version, tat ''tvam asi'', is actually applied in this case. Anyone who understands Lord Kṛṣṇa to be the Supreme, or who says unto the Lord, 'You are the Supreme Brahman, the Personality of Godhead,' is certainly liberated instantly, and consequently his entrance into the transcendental association of the Lord is guaranteed. In other words, such a faithful devotee of the Lord attains perfection, and this is confirmed by the following Vedic assertion:"
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	:''tam eva viditvāti mṛtyum eti''		:''tam eva viditvāti mṛtyum eti''
	:''nānyaḥ panthā vidyate 'yanāya''		:''nānyaḥ panthā vidyate 'yanāya''
	:(''Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad'' 3.8)		:(Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad 3.8)

	"One can attain the perfect stage of liberation from birth and death simply by knowing the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There is no alternative, because anyone who does not understand Lord Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead is surely in the mode of ignorance. Consequently he will not attain salvation simply, so to speak, by licking the outer surface of the bottle of honey, or by interpreting the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' according to mundane scholarship. Such empiric philosophers may assume many important roles in the material world, but they are not necessarily eligible for liberation. Such puffed-up mundane scholars have to wait for the causeless mercy of the devotee of the Lord. One should therefore cultivate Kṛṣṇa consciousness with faith and knowledge, and in this way attain perfection."		"One can attain the perfect stage of liberation from birth and death simply by knowing the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. There is no alternative, because anyone who does not understand Lord Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Personality of Godhead is surely in the mode of ignorance. Consequently he will not attain salvation simply, so to speak, by licking the outer surface of the bottle of honey, or by interpreting the ''Bhagavad-gītā'' according to mundane scholarship. Such empiric philosophers may assume many important roles in the material world, but they are not necessarily eligible for liberation. Such puffed-up mundane scholars have to wait for the causeless mercy of the devotee of the Lord. One should therefore cultivate Kṛṣṇa consciousness with faith and knowledge, and in this way attain perfection."
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	'''Ātreya Ṛṣi:''' Is there a relationship, he's asking, between these disturbances and this age, that this time that we are living in . . .		'''Ātreya Ṛṣi:''' Is there a relationship, he's asking, between these disturbances and this age, that this time that we are living in . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' It is more or less. Sometimes you have got 110° temperature and sometimes you have got 70° temperature. But the disturbance is there. Either 110° or 70° or 30°, you'll have to feel the disturbance. You cannot stop it. So either you take the cause this age, or this country, or this atmosphere, we can say so, but it will continue. That is the nature of the material world. If you think that 110° is too much, "Let it be 100° . . ." That you concoct like that. In fact any such temperature will disturb you. That's a fact. You can think that if it would have been 100°, it would have been very nice. But that's not the fact. Either 110° or 100°, it is disturbing. That is a fact. Then how can you stop it? Anyone who wants to stop it, he's intelligent. And that is described here, ''tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mam eti'' ([[BG 4.9 (1972)\|BG 4.9]]). One has to understand this fundamentally, that so long I'll get this material body, I'll have to suffer. Maybe differences of degrees, but I will have to suffer. So my endeavor should be how to become independent of this material body. That is wanted. That is intelligence. Not to make a distinction of different degrees. Different degrees . . . one position . . . "One man's food, another man's poison," the same degree. If you think that it is nice, another man will suffer. So suffering will continue. That is not possible to . . . (indistinct) . . . it is the nature of material world, ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). (aside:) Find out this verse. ''Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam.'' This material world is full of miseries. That they do not understand. Miserable condition they are accepting as pleasing. That is called ignorance.		'''Prabhupāda:''' It is more or less. Sometimes you have got 110° temperature and sometimes you have got 70° temperature. But the disturbance is there. Either 110° or 70° or 30°, you'll have to feel the disturbance. You cannot stop it. So either you take the cause this age, or this country, or this atmosphere, we can say so, but it will continue. That is the nature of the material world. If you think that 110° is too much, "Let it be 100° . . ." That you concoct like that. In fact any such temperature will disturb you. That's a fact. You can think that if it would have been 100°, it would have been very nice. But that's not the fact. Either 110° or 100°, it is disturbing. That is a fact. Then how can you stop it? Anyone who wants to stop it, he's intelligent. And that is described here, ''tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mam eti'' ([[BG 4.9 (1972)\|BG 4.9]]). One has to understand this fundamentally, that so long I'll get this material body, I'll have to suffer. Maybe differences of degrees, but I will have to suffer. So my endeavor should be how to become independent of this material body. That is wanted. That is intelligence. Not to make a distinction of different degrees. Different degrees . . . one position . . . "One man's food, another man's poison," the same degree. If you think that it is nice, another man will suffer. So suffering will continue. That is not possible to . . . (indistinct) . . . it is the nature of material world, ''duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam'' ([[BG 8.15 (1972)\|BG 8.15]]). (aside) Find out this verse. ''Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam.'' This material world is full of miseries. That they do not understand. Miserable condition they are accepting as pleasing. That is called ignorance.

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	So we should be intelligent enough that if by practicing in this one life I can get next eternal, blissful life of knowledge, why shall I deviate? Even if there is some difficulty, let me tolerate. What is the difficulty? Caitanya Mahāprabhu given so easy, ''harer nāma harer nāma harer nāmaiva kevalam'' ([[CC Adi 17.21\|CC Adi 17.21]]). Simply chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and everything will be done perfectly. So where is the difficulty? No difficulty. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has not bluffed. He said ''kalau nāsty eva'': in Kali-yuga you cannot do anything more. You do, simply chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Where is the difficulty now? A boy can chant. It is simply practice, association. Your son, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa.		So we should be intelligent enough that if by practicing in this one life I can get next eternal, blissful life of knowledge, why shall I deviate? Even if there is some difficulty, let me tolerate. What is the difficulty? Caitanya Mahāprabhu given so easy, ''harer nāma harer nāma harer nāmaiva kevalam'' ([[CC Adi 17.21\|CC Adi 17.21]]). Simply chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and everything will be done perfectly. So where is the difficulty? No difficulty. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has not bluffed. He said ''kalau nāsty eva'': in Kali-yuga you cannot do anything more. You do, simply chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Where is the difficulty now? A boy can chant. It is simply practice, association. Your son, chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa.

	So these chances should be given to everyone, then everything will be all right. Let him be practiced to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, then everything will go on. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Where is the difficulty, unless we make it difficult? Otherwise there is no difficulty. Otherwise suffering. Just like this lamb. It has got the Iranian body, but he's kept there for being killed. So what is the benefit of this Iranian body? But people are very much enthusiastic to remain nationalists, "I am Iranian," "I am American," "I am this," "I am that." So, but he has worked in a different way, so he has got attachment for becoming American and Iranian, "All right you become." And according to work you have to become a lamb, and other Iranians eat you. That's all. This is designation. They do not understand, or they are not educated that what he will get by these designations. Big, big movement is going on on this designation platform. In our country, Mahatma Gandhi, he supposed to be a great personality, but what is his teaching? He remained in designation, that's all. "Feel like Indian and drive away the English." By one designation, you drive away another designation. This is going on. And he took ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and never said: "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." This is going on. ''Karma-kāṇḍa, jñāna-kāṇḍa sakale viṣera bandha'' (''Prema-bhakti-candrikā''). This is ''karma-kāṇḍa''. Designation means this. And higher than this ''karma-kāṇḍa'', the mental speculators, ''jñāna-kāṇḍa''. So Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura, both of them ''viṣera bandha'', pot of poison. If you waste your time in this way, then they will get another body, that's all. ''Nana yoni bhraman kare kadārya bhakṣana kare, tara janma adha pate yaya''. These are simple words, but it contains very, very grave meaning from the Vaiṣṇava ''ācārya''. Where is Ātreya Ṛṣi?		So these chances should be given to everyone, then everything will be all right. Let him be practiced to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, then everything will go on. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Where is the difficulty, unless we make it difficult? Otherwise there is no difficulty. Otherwise suffering. Just like this lamb. It has got the Iranian body, but he's kept there for being killed. So what is the benefit of this Iranian body? But people are very much enthusiastic to remain nationalists, "I am Iranian," "I am American," "I am this," "I am that." So, but he has worked in a different way, so he has got attachment for becoming American and Iranian, "All right you become." And according to work you have to become a lamb, and other Iranians eat you. That's all. This is designation. They do not understand, or they are not educated that what he will get by these designations. Big, big movement is going on on this designation platform. In our country, Mahatma Gandhi, he supposed to be a great personality, but what is his teaching? He remained in designation, that's all. "Feel like Indian and drive away the English." By one designation, you drive away another designation. This is going on. And he took ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and never said: "Kṛṣṇa is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." This is going on. ''Karma-kāṇḍa, jñāna-kāṇḍa sakale viṣera bandha'' (Prema-bhakti-candrikā). This is ''karma-kāṇḍa''. Designation means this. And higher than this ''karma-kāṇḍa'', the mental speculators, ''jñāna-kāṇḍa''. So Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura, both of them ''viṣera bandha'', pot of poison. If you waste your time in this way, then they will get another body, that's all. ''Nana yoni bhraman kare kadārya bhakṣana kare, tara janma adha pate yaya''. These are simple words, but it contains very, very grave meaning from the Vaiṣṇava ''ācārya''. Where is Ātreya Ṛṣi?

	'''Jñānagamya:''' Ātreya Ṛṣi? I'll get him.		'''Jñānagamya:''' Ātreya Ṛṣi? I'll get him.
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	'''Pradyumna:''' And it is like poison. From poison we suffer and die.		'''Pradyumna:''' And it is like poison. From poison we suffer and die.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, it is . . . die means spiritual death. No spiritual idea. Otherwise, we have no death, ''nitya''. But spiritual death is there. (Ātreya Ṛṣi enters, offers obeisances:) So your friends are satisfied or not?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, it is . . . die means spiritual death. No spiritual idea. Otherwise, we have no death, ''nitya''. But spiritual death is there. (Ātreya Ṛṣi enters, offers obeisances) So your friends are satisfied or not?

	'''Ātreya Ṛṣi:''' Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. They said they were.		'''Ātreya Ṛṣi:''' Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda. They said they were.

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