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	'''Lokanātha:''' Flowery language.		'''Lokanātha:''' Flowery language.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Bhagavan pehla. Ye Ustadi hai. Maya ka juta kha raha hai aur Bhagvan bante hai . . . ~~Itna~~ sense nahi hai ki agar main Bhagvan hi hota toh ye juta khaane ke liye kaisa hai? Bhagvan kisika juta khata hai? Kahin se juta khaya kya? Sabko juta bana diya. Ye Bhagvan hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God first. This is expertise. They are beaten up by Maya's boots and become God . . . that doesn't even make much sense, that if I am God then why am I beaten up by Maya's boots. Is God beaten up by boots? Does Kṛṣṇa ever get beaten up by boots? He made everyone condemned like shoes. That is God.)</span>. That is God is great. Nobody can defeat Him. Nobody can go beyond Him. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Nobody is equal to Him. ''Asama'', ''ūrdhva''. Nobody is greater than Him, nobody is equal to Him. That is God. Nowadays there are so many Gods, everyone God. So what kind of God? If God has a competitor, then what is the God? God has no competitor. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Everyone is down. ''Asama''. Not equal, not ''ūrdhva''. Then down. Two things . . . three things are there: equal, level; upper and lower. So there is no upper and there is no equal. Then all lower. Then He's the supreme controller, ''īśvara parama''. In the lower level there may be ''īśvara''. But they are not ''parama''. Subordinate.		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Bhagavan pehla. Ye Ustadi hai. Maya ka juta kha raha hai aur Bhagvan bante hai . . . itna sense nahi hai ki agar main Bhagvan hi hota toh ye juta khaane ke liye kaisa hai? Bhagvan kisika juta khata hai? Kahin se juta khaya kya? Sabko juta bana diya. Ye Bhagvan hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God first. This is expertise. They are beaten up by Maya's boots and become God . . . that doesn't even make much sense, that if I am God then why am I beaten up by Maya's boots. Is God beaten up by boots? Does Kṛṣṇa ever get beaten up by boots? He made everyone condemned like shoes. That is God.)</span>. That is God is great. Nobody can defeat Him. Nobody can go beyond Him. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Nobody is equal to Him. ''Asama'', ''ūrdhva''. Nobody is greater than Him, nobody is equal to Him. That is God. Nowadays there are so many Gods, everyone God. So what kind of God? If God has a competitor, then what is the God? God has no competitor. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Everyone is down. ''Asama''. Not equal, not ''ūrdhva''. Then down. Two things . . . three things are there: equal, level; upper and lower. So there is no upper and there is no equal. Then all lower. Then He's the supreme controller, ''īśvara parama''. In the lower level there may be ''īśvara''. But they are not ''parama''. Subordinate.

	'''Lokanātha:''' ''Āra saba bhṛtya''. "''Ekale īśvara kṛṣṇa Īśvara kṛṣṇa āra saba bhṛtya''." ([[CC Adi 5.142\|CC Adi 5.142]]).		'''Lokanātha:''' ''Āra saba bhṛtya''. "''Ekale īśvara kṛṣṇa Īśvara kṛṣṇa āra saba bhṛtya''." ([[CC Adi 5.142\|CC Adi 5.142]]).
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	'''Lokanātha:''' So we'll write to you, about the books.		'''Lokanātha:''' So we'll write to you, about the books.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Go to village to village. It is very noble attempt. And if you sincerely preach, Kṛṣṇa will . . . ''~~Buddhi~~-yogaṁ dadāmi taṁ yena mām upayānti te''. There is no doubt.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Go to village to village. It is very noble attempt. And if you sincerely preach, Kṛṣṇa will . . . ''buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi taṁ yena mām upayānti te''. There is no doubt.

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	'''Lokanātha:''' Even some religious organizations are there, but nobody . . .		'''Lokanātha:''' Even some religious organizations are there, but nobody . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' They do not know what is religion. They do not know what is religion. They have no faith in God. This is their position. All bogus. I say it, challenging, do they know what is God? <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ki balo</span>, <span style="color:#128807">(Now say)</span> Mr. Gupta? Do they know? People in general, do they know what is God?		'''Prabhupāda:''' They do not know what is religion. They do not know what is religion. They have no faith in God. This is their position. All bogus. I say it, challenging, do they know what is God? <span style="color:#ec710e">Ki balo</span>, <span style="color:#128807">(Now say)</span> Mr. Gupta? Do they know? People in general, do they know what is God?

	'''Mr. Gupta:''' They don't know what is God. But they only respect God out of fear.		'''Mr. Gupta:''' They don't know what is God. But they only respect God out of fear.
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	If they have got little brain, then ''kṛṣṇa-upadeśa''. Otherwise, Hare Kṛṣṇa ''upadeśa'', that's all. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Very simple. The preacher does not require to be very highly educated. If he follows simply Caitanya Mahāprabhu's instruction, ''yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa'' ([[CC Madhya 7.128\|CC Madhya 7.128]]), then he's successful. No, <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">ustādi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(expertise.)</span> That is not . . .		If they have got little brain, then ''kṛṣṇa-upadeśa''. Otherwise, Hare Kṛṣṇa ''upadeśa'', that's all. Chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Very simple. The preacher does not require to be very highly educated. If he follows simply Caitanya Mahāprabhu's instruction, ''yāre dekha tāre kaha kṛṣṇa-upadeśa'' ([[CC Madhya 7.128\|CC Madhya 7.128]]), then he's successful. No, <span style="color:#ec710e">ustādi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(expertise.)</span> That is not . . .

	'''Lokanātha:''' No what?		'''Lokanātha:''' No what?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">''Ustādi'', ustad hota hai na?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Expertise, there are ''Ustāds'' right?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">''Ustādi'', ustad hota hai na?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Expertise, there are ''Ustāds'' right?)</span>

	'''Lokanātha:''' Flowery language.		'''Lokanātha:''' Flowery language.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Bhagavan pehla. Ye Ustadi hai. Maya ka juta kha raha hai aur Bhagvan bante hai . . . itna sense nahi hai ki agar main Bhagvan hi hota toh ye juta khaane ke liye kaisa hai? Bhagvan kisika juta khata hai? Kahin se juta khaya kya? Sabko juta bana diya. Ye Bhagvan hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God first. This is expertise. They are beaten up by Maya's boots and become God . . . that doesn't even make much sense, that if I am God then why am I beaten up by Maya's boots. Is God beaten up by boots? Does Kṛṣṇa ever get beaten up by boots? He made everyone condemned like shoes. That is God.)</span>. That is God is great. Nobody can defeat Him. Nobody can go beyond Him. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Nobody is equal to Him. ''Asama'', ''ūrdhva''. Nobody is greater than Him, nobody is equal to Him. That is God. Nowadays there are so many Gods, everyone God. So what kind of God? If God has a competitor, then what is the God? God has no competitor. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Everyone is down. ''Asama''. Not equal, not ''ūrdhva''. Then down. Two things . . . three things are there: equal, level; upper and lower. So there is no upper and there is no equal. Then all lower. Then He's the supreme controller, ''īśvara parama''. In the lower level there may be ''īśvara''. But they are not ''parama''. Subordinate.		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Bhagavan pehla. Ye Ustadi hai. Maya ka juta kha raha hai aur Bhagvan bante hai . . . itna sense nahi hai ki agar main Bhagvan hi hota toh ye juta khaane ke liye kaisa hai? Bhagvan kisika juta khata hai? Kahin se juta khaya kya? Sabko juta bana diya. Ye Bhagvan hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(God first. This is expertise. They are beaten up by Maya's boots and become God . . . that doesn't even make much sense, that if I am God then why am I beaten up by Maya's boots. Is God beaten up by boots? Does Kṛṣṇa ever get beaten up by boots? He made everyone condemned like shoes. That is God.)</span>. That is God is great. Nobody can defeat Him. Nobody can go beyond Him. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Nobody is equal to Him. ''Asama'', ''ūrdhva''. Nobody is greater than Him, nobody is equal to Him. That is God. Nowadays there are so many Gods, everyone God. So what kind of God? If God has a competitor, then what is the God? God has no competitor. ''Asama-ūrdhva''. Everyone is down. ''Asama''. Not equal, not ''ūrdhva''. Then down. Two things . . . three things are there: equal, level; upper and lower. So there is no upper and there is no equal. Then all lower. Then He's the supreme controller, ''īśvara parama''. In the lower level there may be ''īśvara''. But they are not ''parama''. Subordinate.

	'''Lokanātha:''' ''Āra saba bhṛtya''. "''Ekale īśvara kṛṣṇa Īśvara kṛṣṇa āra saba bhṛtya''." ([[CC Adi 5.142\|CC Adi 5.142]]).		'''Lokanātha:''' ''Āra saba bhṛtya''. "''Ekale īśvara kṛṣṇa Īśvara kṛṣṇa āra saba bhṛtya''." ([[CC Adi 5.142\|CC Adi 5.142]]).

	'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Āra saba bhṛtya''. God is one, and all others, they are subjects. ''Nityo nityānām''. Why these two words are used? ''Nityānām''. Everyone is nitya, but He's the supreme ''nitya''. ''Cetanaś cetanānām''. He's not dead body, dead matter. ''Cetana. Nitya'' . . . just as the Himalaya Parvata is standing forever. No. ''Cetana'', living. So how He can be imperson? Himalaya Parvata may be very big, the sky may be big, but it is not ''cetana''. Therefore this word is used, ''cetana'', living. ''Nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). What is the difference? ''Eko bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān''. That one nitya is providing, maintaining all other ''nityas''. That is God. God is great. That is the meaning. So anyway, make your effort sincerely. The basic principle is this: induce them to chant and take ''prasādam'', you'll be successful. Not very much ''Ustādi''. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Mantra de denge aur humko 35 dollars do jhamela ye sab.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(We will give you a mantra, give us 35 dollars—all this is trouble.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' ''Āra saba bhṛtya''. God is one, and all others, they are subjects. ''Nityo nityānām''. Why these two words are used? ''Nityānām''. Everyone is nitya, but He's the supreme ''nitya''. ''Cetanaś cetanānām''. He's not dead body, dead matter. ''Cetana. Nitya'' . . . just as the Himalaya Parvata is standing forever. No. ''Cetana'', living. So how He can be imperson? Himalaya Parvata may be very big, the sky may be big, but it is not ''cetana''. Therefore this word is used, ''cetana'', living. ''Nityo nityānāṁ cetanaś cetanānām'' (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13). What is the difference? ''Eko bahūnāṁ vidadhāti kāmān''. That one nitya is providing, maintaining all other ''nityas''. That is God. God is great. That is the meaning. So anyway, make your effort sincerely. The basic principle is this: induce them to chant and take ''prasādam'', you'll be successful. Not very much ''Ustādi''. <span style="color:#ec710e">Mantra de denge aur humko 35 dollars do jhamela ye sab.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(We will give you a mantra, give us 35 dollars—all this is trouble.)</span>

	'''Lokanātha:''' So we'll write to you, about the books.		'''Lokanātha:''' So we'll write to you, about the books.
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	'''Indian man:'''		'''Indian man:'''
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Lakhon Guru Hai Jagat Mein Par Ek Bhi Nahi Kaam Ka,</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Lakhon Guru Hai Jagat Mein Par Ek Bhi Nahi Kaam Ka,</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(There are many gurus in this world but all are useless,)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(There are many gurus in this world but all are useless,)</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Sab Svaarthi Hain Daam Ke Danka Bajate Naam Ka,</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Sab Svaarthi Hain Daam Ke Danka Bajate Naam Ka,</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(All are selfish for money glorifying their own names,)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(All are selfish for money glorifying their own names,)</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Visvas Ka Guru Ek Hi Hai Baaki Nahin Kuch Dhyan De,</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Visvas Ka Guru Ek Hi Hai Baaki Nahin Kuch Dhyan De,</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(There is only one guru to be trusted, do not focus on any one else,)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(There is only one guru to be trusted, do not focus on any one else,)</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Jo Khaas Ki Pehchan De Wahi Sad-Guru Pehchan Le.</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Jo Khaas Ki Pehchan De Wahi Sad-Guru Pehchan Le.</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(And that Sad-guru is one who tells about the Supreme, identifying him.)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(And that Sad-guru is one who tells about the Supreme, identifying him.)</span>

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	'''Indian man:'''		'''Indian man:'''
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Lakhon Guru Hai Jagat Mein Par Ek Bhi Nahi Kaam Ka,</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Lakhon Guru Hai Jagat Mein Par Ek Bhi Nahi Kaam Ka,</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(There are many gurus in this world but all are useless,</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(There are many gurus in this world but all are useless,</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Sab Svaarthi Hain Daam Ke Danka Bajate Naam Ka,</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Sab Svaarthi Hain Daam Ke Danka Bajate Naam Ka,</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(All are selfish for money glorifying their own names,)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(All are selfish for money glorifying their own names,)</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Visvas Ka Guru Ek Hi Hai Baaki Nahin Kuch Dhyan De,</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Visvas Ka Guru Ek Hi Hai Baaki Nahin Kuch Dhyan De,</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(There is only one guru to be trusted, do not focus on any one else,)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(There is only one guru to be trusted, do not focus on any one else,)</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Jo Khaas Ki Pehchan De Wahi Sad-Guru Pehchan Le.</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Jo Khaas Ki Pehchan De Wahi Sad-Guru Pehchan Le.</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(There is only one guru to be trusted, do not focus on any one else,)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(There is only one guru to be trusted, do not focus on any one else,)</span>
	<span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Nahi Hone Denge Barbaad Jo Denge Saccha Itihas Woh Hamare Guru Vaishnava Srila Prabhupāda.</span>		<span style="color:#ec710e">Nahi Hone Denge Barbaad Jo Denge Saccha Itihas Woh Hamare Guru Vaishnava Srila Prabhupāda.</span>
	<span style="color:#128807">(He will not perish, He will give real history and testimony, he is our guru Vaisnava Srila Prabhupāda.)</span>		<span style="color:#128807">(He will not perish, He will give real history and testimony, he is our guru Vaisnava Srila Prabhupāda.)</span>

	'''Lokanātha:''' It's a very nice quotation.		'''Lokanātha:''' It's a very nice quotation.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hare Kṛṣṇa. ''Jaya''. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ye hum logon ke liye koi muskil nahi hai, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ne . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(This is not all difficult for us, Caitanya Mahāprabhu said . . .)</span> "By My order." That's all. That I was explaining to Mr. Gupta. If I say this bag of bead, you take it and give it to him, then where is my difficulty? There is no difficulty. This is called bead bag. You take it and give him—and you become ''guru''. Call a spade a spade. And if you become ''Ustādi'', "Kurukṣetra means this body, and this means this, and this means that," then you spoil. You spoil yourself also . . . (indistinct Bengali) (end)		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hare Kṛṣṇa. ''Jaya''. <span style="color:#ec710e">Ye hum logon ke liye koi muskil nahi hai, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ne . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(This is not all difficult for us, Caitanya Mahāprabhu said . . .)</span> "By My order." That's all. That I was explaining to Mr. Gupta. If I say this bag of bead, you take it and give it to him, then where is my difficulty? There is no difficulty. This is called bead bag. You take it and give him—and you become ''guru''. Call a spade a spade. And if you become ''Ustādi'', "Kurukṣetra means this body, and this means this, and this means that," then you spoil. You spoil yourself also . . . (indistinct Bengali) (end)

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