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RasaRasika at 03:09, 2 October 2023

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	Prabhupāda: (laughs) Driver we'll get, there is no . . . so I want to preach little in the village. So for that purpose, in the big bus like that, we shall go with our tents, and we camp in a place where there is water, and begin our preaching. And Hindi books we are getting. In this way let me try in India, in the village, not in the city.		Prabhupāda: (laughs) Driver we'll get, there is no . . . so I want to preach little in the village. So for that purpose, in the big bus like that, we shall go with our tents, and we camp in a place where there is water, and begin our preaching. And Hindi books we are getting. In this way let me try in India, in the village, not in the city.

	Devotee: Oh, yes.		'''Devotee:''' Oh, yes.

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' For us there is no problem, Prabhupāda, but it may be difficult for Your Divine Grace.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' For us there is no problem, Prabhupāda, but it may be difficult for Your Divine Grace.
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	Prabhupāda: A broker club business. So the businessmen, the ''zamindars'', and gradually they started their factories, railways—in this way they started. And they are big politicians, so it is their management. And they failed when things were mismanaged. First of all they created friendship, and later on when they were in power, they created enmity. Then it is failed.		Prabhupāda: A broker club business. So the businessmen, the ''zamindars'', and gradually they started their factories, railways—in this way they started. And they are big politicians, so it is their management. And they failed when things were mismanaged. First of all they created friendship, and later on when they were in power, they created enmity. Then it is failed.

	Devotee: Hmm.		'''Devotee:''' Hmm.

	Prabhupāda: First of all friendship, and that established them. And then they began to create enmity, Hindus against Muslim, Muslim . . . they wanted to stay. When they forgot this idea that if they wanted to stay for the benefit of the people, nobody could drive them away. But their policy was for the benefit of the English people. Therefore they failed. Lord Curzon, he says a statement that, "If you want to stay in India, rule India for the benefit of Indian people. You can keep control over India. They are fond of kings, so one member of the royal family can become king here, and they'll earn respect and honor, these Indian people. But rule for their benefit. Then British Empire will stay." Very good advice, but his advice was not taken. You have seen Lord Curzon's statue near the . . . in front of the Victoria Memorial Hall?		Prabhupāda: First of all friendship, and that established them. And then they began to create enmity, Hindus against Muslim, Muslim . . . they wanted to stay. When they forgot this idea that if they wanted to stay for the benefit of the people, nobody could drive them away. But their policy was for the benefit of the English people. Therefore they failed. Lord Curzon, he says a statement that, "If you want to stay in India, rule India for the benefit of Indian people. You can keep control over India. They are fond of kings, so one member of the royal family can become king here, and they'll earn respect and honor, these Indian people. But rule for their benefit. Then British Empire will stay." Very good advice, but his advice was not taken. You have seen Lord Curzon's statue near the . . . in front of the Victoria Memorial Hall?
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	Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . their arguments so strong.		Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . their arguments so strong.

	Devotee: Unbeatable debaters.		'''Devotee:''' Unbeatable debaters.

	Prabhupāda: Eh?		Prabhupāda: Eh?
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	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Looks like your book.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Looks like your book.

	Devotee: . . . (indistinct)		'''Devotee:''' . . . (indistinct)

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">O ki bolche sunun.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Listen to what he has to say.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">O ki bolche sunun.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Listen to what he has to say.)</span>

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	'''Hari-śauri:''' He has several . . . he has several books out. "He was born in India in a traditional brāhmaṇa family. He learned Sanskrit at the age of 10, and his knowledge of the Hindu scriptures written in Sanskrit is very profound. He has committed to memory the entire ''Bhagavad-gītā'' scripture and one fourth of the ''Ṛg Veda''. He himself is a worshiper of Kṛṣṇa. His teachings is a way of life, and he is extremely competent to judge whether the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is authentic and bona fide."		'''Hari-śauri:''' He has several . . . he has several books out. "He was born in India in a traditional brāhmaṇa family. He learned Sanskrit at the age of 10, and his knowledge of the Hindu scriptures written in Sanskrit is very profound. He has committed to memory the entire ''Bhagavad-gītā'' scripture and one fourth of the ''Ṛg Veda''. He himself is a worshiper of Kṛṣṇa. His teachings is a way of life, and he is extremely competent to judge whether the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement is authentic and bona fide."

	Devotee (2): He came to see you in Washington.		'''Devotee (2):''' He came to see you in Washington.

	Prabhupāda: Hmm.		Prabhupāda: Hmm.
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	'''Haṁsadūta:''' You see, you see they have . . . they put these two boys in a mental institution. Yes. When they can't . . . this is what happens in these countries. When they can't find any legal point, they can put the person into a mental institution to be examined. The premise is that if we find that a person is drinking cow's urine, we may think he must be crazy, because we have never heard of such a thing. So in this way they can . . .		'''Haṁsadūta:''' You see, you see they have . . . they put these two boys in a mental institution. Yes. When they can't . . . this is what happens in these countries. When they can't find any legal point, they can put the person into a mental institution to be examined. The premise is that if we find that a person is drinking cow's urine, we may think he must be crazy, because we have never heard of such a thing. So in this way they can . . .

	Devotee (2): Commit them.		'''Devotee (2):''' Commit them.

	'''Haṁsadūta:''' Yeah, they commit them . . .		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Yeah, they commit them . . .

	Devotee (2): Forcibly they just put them into a mental institution where they're observed.		'''Devotee (2):''' Forcibly they just put them into a mental institution where they're observed.

	'''Hari-śauri:''' Where they . . . that observation, so-called observation, means that they give them all kinds of drugs which make them very dopey, and then they influence them to try to become normal again, what they think is normal. Sometimes they give them electric shocks, which leaves them . . .		'''Hari-śauri:''' Where they . . . that observation, so-called observation, means that they give them all kinds of drugs which make them very dopey, and then they influence them to try to become normal again, what they think is normal. Sometimes they give them electric shocks, which leaves them . . .

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	Prabhupāda: Management, that is in your hands. You have to . . . who will give you management? You have to manage local—local men. Bon Mahārāja was failure that he could not get the local men. But I did not try to bring men from India and preach in England or America.		Prabhupāda: Management, that is in your hands. You have to . . . who will give you management? You have to manage local—local men. Bon Mahārāja was failure that he could not get the local men. But I did not try to bring men from India and preach in England or America.

	Akṣayānanda: Hmm.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Hmm.

	Prabhupāda: How it is possible? The British Empire was established on management. They did not bring men from England. Few managers, that's all. That is called management. One man can control hundreds and thousands of men, and that is management.		Prabhupāda: How it is possible? The British Empire was established on management. They did not bring men from England. Few managers, that's all. That is called management. One man can control hundreds and thousands of men, and that is management.
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	Prabhupāda: I think some car has come?		Prabhupāda: I think some car has come?

	Akṣayānanda: Maybe that's Bhīma. I'll check.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Maybe that's Bhīma. I'll check.

	Prabhupāda: Hmm.		Prabhupāda: Hmm.

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RasaRasika at 04:36, 4 August 2023

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	'''Hari-śauri:''' Yeah, which leaves them in a very shocked condition, and then they, what they call reprogram them. That means they brainwash them back into another way, to another style of life, like that.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Yeah, which leaves them in a very shocked condition, and then they, what they call reprogram them. That means they brainwash them back into another way, to another style of life, like that.

	Guest: <span style="color:#ff9933">Eirakam! Prabhupada!</span> <span style="color:#128807">(They like this Prabhupāda.)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Eirakam! Prabhupada!</span> <span style="color:#128807">(They like this Prabhupāda.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Kare ekhane, Ranchi te kare.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, they like this in Ranchi.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Kare ekhane, Ranchi te kare.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, they like this in Ranchi.)</span>
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	'''Hari-śauri:''' (continues reading) "He recently returned home after almost three years in India. My husband and I could see the awareness and maturity in him gained from his experiences in working with the Indian people. He learned firsthand about a different culture, and it certainly has enriched his life. In our minds we can compare our son's life to the life of a Catholic monk or a religious Jew of the Hasidic sect. Do I think that my son is brainwashed? I can best answer this by answering the question, is our whole society not being brainwashed daily by the advertisement media—liquor, smoking, pornographic movies and literature? And which is worse? And what about the children who are being educated by the violence and killing on T.V.? I prefer that my son is devoting his life to the love of God and the service of humanity, a rare endeavor in this age. Since I know that my son has voluntarily chosen the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement to exercise these rights, and that he can leave it whenever he wishes, I cannot see how the term 'brainwashing' can be applicable to this movement. I sincerely believe from my contacts with many devotees that they are happy and have found fulfillment by loving and serving Lord Kṛṣṇa, God. This may not be my wish for my life, but my son has chosen it for his, and I wholeheartedly respect it."		'''Hari-śauri:''' (continues reading) "He recently returned home after almost three years in India. My husband and I could see the awareness and maturity in him gained from his experiences in working with the Indian people. He learned firsthand about a different culture, and it certainly has enriched his life. In our minds we can compare our son's life to the life of a Catholic monk or a religious Jew of the Hasidic sect. Do I think that my son is brainwashed? I can best answer this by answering the question, is our whole society not being brainwashed daily by the advertisement media—liquor, smoking, pornographic movies and literature? And which is worse? And what about the children who are being educated by the violence and killing on T.V.? I prefer that my son is devoting his life to the love of God and the service of humanity, a rare endeavor in this age. Since I know that my son has voluntarily chosen the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement to exercise these rights, and that he can leave it whenever he wishes, I cannot see how the term 'brainwashing' can be applicable to this movement. I sincerely believe from my contacts with many devotees that they are happy and have found fulfillment by loving and serving Lord Kṛṣṇa, God. This may not be my wish for my life, but my son has chosen it for his, and I wholeheartedly respect it."

	Guest: . . . (indistinct)		'''Guest:''' . . . (indistinct)

	Prabhupāda: Yes.		Prabhupāda: Yes.
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	Guest: <span style="color:#ff9933">Eibar, apnar ki ektu bhalo lagche?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is your health okay now?)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Eibar, apnar ki ektu bhalo lagche?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Is your health okay now?)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Kalker ceye bhalo. Ekhane ekta</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Better than yesterday. Here one)</span> . . . (indistinct)		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Kalker ceye bhalo. Ekhane ekta</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Better than yesterday. Here one)</span> . . . (indistinct)

	Guest: . . . (indistinct)		'''Guest:''' . . . (indistinct)

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Jela oi Nadiai, Yekhane Pagla Babar ashram hoyeche na!</span> <span style="color:#128807">(District is Nadia, where the Pagla Baba's ''ashrama'' is.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Jela oi Nadiai, Yekhane Pagla Babar ashram hoyeche na!</span> <span style="color:#128807">(District is Nadia, where the Pagla Baba's ''ashrama'' is.)</span>

	Guest: <span style="color:#ff9933">Hya, hya, hya.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, yes, yes.)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Hya, hya, hya.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes, yes, yes.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Oikhane.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Oikhane.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There.)</span>

	Guest: <span style="color:#ff9933">Ami giyechilam. Sekhane ektu anyarakam jinis patra ache.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I went there. Some other types of things present there.)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Ami giyechilam. Sekhane ektu anyarakam jinis patra ache.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I went there. Some other types of things present there.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: Hmm, <span style="color:#ff9933">go-sala ache, goru ekta ache.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(a cowshed is there, and a cow as well.)</span>		Prabhupāda: Hmm, <span style="color:#ff9933">go-sala ache, goru ekta ache.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(a cowshed is there, and a cow as well.)</span>

	Guest: <span style="color:#ff9933">Goru ekta!</span> <span style="color:#128807">(A cow.)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Goru ekta!</span> <span style="color:#128807">(A cow.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Hya, bais bachor pac cha-mas . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes not too old, only 22 years and 5 to 6 months . . .)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Hya, bais bachor pac cha-mas . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes not too old, only 22 years and 5 to 6 months . . .)</span>

	Guest: (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">mandirer janye, utpadan er janye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(providing for the temple.)</span>		'''Guest:''' (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">mandirer janye, utpadan er janye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(providing for the temple.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Manage korechi eikhane, jayga to gelei paoa yay.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Wherever we will go we can get a place, we have to manage here.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Manage korechi eikhane, jayga to gelei paoa yay.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Wherever we will go we can get a place, we have to manage here.)</span>

	Guest: (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">sambhabana, erom hoyar ucit o.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(possibility, and that must be done.)</span>		'''Guest:''' (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">sambhabana, erom hoyar ucit o.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(possibility, and that must be done.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Choto-khato onek boi beriyeche amader samparke.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There are many small books published about us.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Choto-khato onek boi beriyeche amader samparke.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There are many small books published about us.)</span>

	Guest: Hm, <span style="color:#ff9933">choto-khato.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(small books.)</span>		'''Guest:''' Hm, <span style="color:#ff9933">choto-khato.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(small books.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Ar er boi to . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(And this book is . . .)</span> (indistinct) . . . (end)		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Ar er boi to . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(And this book is . . .)</span> (indistinct) . . . (end)