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Prabhupāda: At least once in a month you must be shaven headed.

Akṣayānanda: Actually, we usually shave more.

Prabhupāda: Hm?

Akṣayānanda: We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.

Hari-śauri: We can get very good wigs.

Prabhupāda: No, no, there is no need. It is simply... That is also mental concoction. Nowadays, if you go with coat-pant shaven headed, nobody will criticize you. It has become a practi... Russians, they used... That Krushchev I have seen. Bald head.

Hari-śauri: Yes, bald head.

Prabhupāda: And so many.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They don't have a śikhā, that's all.

Prabhupāda: Oh? It is practice only.

Akṣayānanda: No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started. Now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.

Jagadīśa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇakānti.

Hari-śauri: This pop music? This tape that you just got of that Western style music.

Jagadīśa: Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "not in the temples," Rāmeśvara said...

Prabhupāda: No, no. Not in the temple. I... I want... If the wordings are all right, so there is no... If there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: This one tape that Alex has made, he gave me a copy in Bombay to listen. I just played it...

Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.

Hari-śauri: We're talking about these songs that they are writing.

Jagadīśa: Philosophy songs.

Prabhupāda: And therefore we have to see the words.

Hari-śauri: Like this "caterpillar had a change of heart."

Jagadīśa: If the words are all right, then they can be played in the temple?

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.

Akṣayānanda: Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people. I said, "Why don't you put music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your..."

Hari-śauri: No, Prabhupāda's approved this method for attracting karmīs.

Akṣayānanda: Yes, not for devotees.

Hari-śauri: But the thing is once you become a devotee, we don't need...

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Akṣayānanda: That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.

Hari-śauri: The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?

Prabhupāda: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that... I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. And all the brahmacārīs were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop...

Akṣayānanda: Because that style of music it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.

Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Just your these records and paramparā records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.

Hari-śauri: This style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play bhajanas or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's indirect. It's not directly Kṛṣṇa.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: But you can't hear the words.

Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.

Hari-śauri: They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It provokes some speculation.

Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: So, Prabhupāda, the New York temple has just produced a ballet on Rāmāyaṇa, and one boy, Vijayadeva, just came back and he brought a slideshow on that ballet.

Prabhupāda: Ballet?

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They did a ballet, the New York theater, Sudāmā Swami and his group. But that ballet is accompanied by a classical Western record in background. It's a twenty med... They have just played the whole record as background music. And I know, we showed it in Bombay and none of the devotees liked it. They told me to stop that show because they said it's all māyā. Everyone saw it, Girirāja and...

Prabhupāda: So they should be restricted.

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean, their playing... Serious devotees don't like it, like Girirāja walked out of the show and he told me to stop it.

Prabhupāda: So why it was played, this?

Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They just brought it from New York, so we didn't know what it contained. But they are doing this in other centers. (end)

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	Prabhupāda: At least once in a month you must be shaven-headed.		'''Prabhupāda:''' At least once in a month you must be shaven-headed.

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually, we usually shave more.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually, we usually shave more.

	Prabhupāda: Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.
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	'''Hari-śauri:''' We can get very good wigs.		'''Hari-śauri:''' We can get very good wigs.

	Prabhupāda: No, no, there is no need. It is simply . . . that is also mental concoction. Nowadays, if you go with coat-pant, shaven headed, nobody will criticize you. It has become a practi . . . Russians, they used . . . that Krushchev I have seen. Bald head.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, there is no need. It is simply . . . that is also mental concoction. Nowadays, if you go with coat-pant, shaven headed, nobody will criticize you. It has become a practi . . . Russians, they used . . . that Krushchev I have seen. Bald head.

	'''Hari-śauri:''' Yes, bald head.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Yes, bald head.

	Prabhupāda: And so many.		'''Prabhupāda:''' And so many.

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They don't have a ''śikhā'', that's all.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They don't have a ''śikhā'', that's all.

	Prabhupāda: Oh? It is practice only.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh? It is practice only.

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.
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	'''Jagadīśa:''' Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples, and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "Not in the temples"; Rāmeśvara said . . .		'''Jagadīśa:''' Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples, and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "Not in the temples"; Rāmeśvara said . . .

	Prabhupāda: No, no. Not in the temple. I . . . I want . . . if the wordings are all right, so there is no . . . if there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no. Not in the temple. I . . . I want . . . if the wordings are all right, so there is no . . . if there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' This one tape that Alex has made, he gave me a copy in Bombay to listen. I just played it . . .		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' This one tape that Alex has made, he gave me a copy in Bombay to listen. I just played it . . .

	Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.

	'''Hari-śauri:''' But we're talking about these songs that they are writing.		'''Hari-śauri:''' But we're talking about these songs that they are writing.
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	'''Hari-śauri:''' Like this, er . . .		'''Hari-śauri:''' Like this, er . . .

	Prabhupāda: Therefore we have to see the words.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Therefore we have to see the words.

	'''Hari-śauri:''' Like the "Caterpillar had a change of heart."		'''Hari-śauri:''' Like the "Caterpillar had a change of heart."
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	'''Hari-śauri:''' But the thing is, once you become a devotee, we don't need . . .		'''Hari-śauri:''' But the thing is, once you become a devotee, we don't need . . .

	Prabhupāda: Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.
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	'''Hari-śauri:''' The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?		'''Hari-śauri:''' The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?

	Prabhupāda: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that . . . I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the ''brahmacārīs'' were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop . . .		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that . . . I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the ''brahmacārīs'' were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop . . .
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	'''Akṣayānanda:''' Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.

	Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Just your records and ''paramparā'' records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Just your records and ''paramparā'' records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.
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	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But you can't hear the words.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But you can't hear the words.

	Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, indirect.

	'''Hari-śauri:''' They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It's like it provokes some speculation.		'''Hari-śauri:''' They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It's like it provokes some speculation.

	Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' So, Prabhupāda, the New York temple has just produced a ballet on ''Rāmāyaṇa'', and one boy, Vijayadeva, just came back and he brought a slideshow on that ballet.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' So, Prabhupāda, the New York temple has just produced a ballet on ''Rāmāyaṇa'', and one boy, Vijayadeva, just came back and he brought a slideshow on that ballet.

	Prabhupāda: Ballet?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ballet?

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They did a ballet, the New York theater, Sudāmā Swami and his group. But that ballet is accompanied by a classical Western record in background. It's a twenty med . . . they have just played the whole record as background music. And I know, we showed it in Bombay, and none of the devotees liked it. They actually told me to stop that show because they said it's all ''māyā''. Everyone saw it, Girirāja and . . .		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They did a ballet, the New York theater, Sudāmā Swami and his group. But that ballet is accompanied by a classical Western record in background. It's a twenty med . . . they have just played the whole record as background music. And I know, we showed it in Bombay, and none of the devotees liked it. They actually told me to stop that show because they said it's all ''māyā''. Everyone saw it, Girirāja and . . .

	Prabhupāda: So they should be restricted.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So they should be restricted.

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I mean, they're playing . . . serious devotees don't like. Like Girirāja walked out of the show, and he told me to stop it.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I mean, they're playing . . . serious devotees don't like. Like Girirāja walked out of the show, and he told me to stop it.

	Prabhupāda: So why it was played, this?		'''Prabhupāda:''' So why it was played, this?

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They just brought it from New York, so we didn't know what it contained. But they are doing this in other centers. (end)		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They just brought it from New York, so we didn't know what it contained. But they are doing this in other centers. (end)

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	'''Akṣayānanda:''' We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.

	Hari-śauri: We can get very good wigs.		'''Hari-śauri:''' We can get very good wigs.

	Prabhupāda: No, no, there is no need. It is simply . . . that is also mental concoction. Nowadays, if you go with coat-pant, shaven headed, nobody will criticize you. It has become a practi . . . Russians, they used . . . that Krushchev I have seen. Bald head.		Prabhupāda: No, no, there is no need. It is simply . . . that is also mental concoction. Nowadays, if you go with coat-pant, shaven headed, nobody will criticize you. It has become a practi . . . Russians, they used . . . that Krushchev I have seen. Bald head.

	Hari-śauri: Yes, bald head.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Yes, bald head.

	Prabhupāda: And so many.		Prabhupāda: And so many.
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	'''Jagadīśa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇa-kānti.		'''Jagadīśa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇa-kānti.

	Hari-śauri: This pop music? This tape that you just got of that Western-style music.		'''Hari-śauri:''' This pop music? This tape that you just got of that Western-style music.

	'''Jagadīśa:''' Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples, and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "Not in the temples"; Rāmeśvara said . . .		'''Jagadīśa:''' Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples, and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "Not in the temples"; Rāmeśvara said . . .
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	Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.		Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.

	Hari-śauri: But we're talking about these songs that they are writing.		'''Hari-śauri:''' But we're talking about these songs that they are writing.

	'''Jagadīśa:''' Philosophy songs.		'''Jagadīśa:''' Philosophy songs.

	Hari-śauri: Like this, er . . .		'''Hari-śauri:''' Like this, er . . .

	Prabhupāda: Therefore we have to see the words.		Prabhupāda: Therefore we have to see the words.

	Hari-śauri: Like the "Caterpillar had a change of heart."		'''Hari-śauri:''' Like the "Caterpillar had a change of heart."

	'''Jagadīśa:''' If the words are all right, then they can be played?		'''Jagadīśa:''' If the words are all right, then they can be played?
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	'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people . . . I said: "Why don't you put to music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your . . ."		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people . . . I said: "Why don't you put to music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your . . ."

	Hari-śauri: No, Prabhupāda's approved this method for attracting ''karmīs''.		'''Hari-śauri:''' No, Prabhupāda's approved this method for attracting ''karmīs''.

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' Yes, not for devotees.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Yes, not for devotees.

	Hari-śauri: But the thing is, once you become a devotee, we don't need . . .		'''Hari-śauri:''' But the thing is, once you become a devotee, we don't need . . .

	Prabhupāda: Yes.		Prabhupāda: Yes.
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	'''Akṣayānanda:''' That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.

	Hari-śauri: The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?		'''Hari-śauri:''' The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?

	Prabhupāda: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?		Prabhupāda: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?
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	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Just your records and ''paramparā'' records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Just your records and ''paramparā'' records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.

	Hari-śauri: Yeah, well this style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play ''bhajanas'' or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's like it's indirect. It's not directly Kṛṣṇa. It's indirect.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Yeah, well this style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play ''bhajanas'' or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's like it's indirect. It's not directly Kṛṣṇa. It's indirect.

	'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But you can't hear the words.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But you can't hear the words.
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	Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.		Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.

	Hari-śauri: They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It's like it provokes some speculation.		'''Hari-śauri:''' They give this thing, "The caterpillar changed his mind," like that. It's like it provokes some speculation.

	Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.		Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.

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	Prabhupāda: And so many.		Prabhupāda: And so many.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They don't have a ''śikhā'', that's all.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They don't have a ''śikhā'', that's all.

	Prabhupāda: Oh? It is practice only.		Prabhupāda: Oh? It is practice only.
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	'''Akṣayānanda:''' No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records . . . I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started, now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records . . . I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started, now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.

	'''Jagadīśa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇa-kānti.		'''Jagadīśa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇa-kānti.
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	Prabhupāda: No, no. Not in the temple. I . . . I want . . . if the wordings are all right, so there is no . . . if there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.		Prabhupāda: No, no. Not in the temple. I . . . I want . . . if the wordings are all right, so there is no . . . if there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: This one tape that Alex has made, he gave me a copy in Bombay to listen. I just played it . . .		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' This one tape that Alex has made, he gave me a copy in Bombay to listen. I just played it . . .

	Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.		Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa, this vibration, you can make in different tune. We are already doing that.
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	'''Jagadīśa:''' If the words are all right, then they can be played?		'''Jagadīśa:''' If the words are all right, then they can be played?

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people . . . I said: "Why don't you put to music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your . . ."		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people . . . I said: "Why don't you put to music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your . . ."
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	Prabhupāda: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?		Prabhupāda: Temple may not be played. What is use of playing in the temple?

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that . . . I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the ''brahmacārīs'' were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop . . .		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that . . . I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the ''brahmacārīs'' were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop . . .

	'''Akṣayānanda:''' Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.
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	Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.		Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Just your records and ''paramparā'' records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Just your records and ''paramparā'' records should be played, I think. There are so many tapes of your records.

	Hari-śauri: Yeah, well this style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play ''bhajanas'' or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's like it's indirect. It's not directly Kṛṣṇa. It's indirect.		Hari-śauri: Yeah, well this style that they are doing now, they explain that they wanted that because then that way, they'll be able get them played on the radio. Otherwise they won't play ''bhajanas'' or anything on the radio. But there's a distinction between that kind of music and pure Kṛṣṇa consciousness music. Even though the words indicate Kṛṣṇa consciousness, most of the songs are written in such a way that it's like it's indirect. It's not directly Kṛṣṇa. It's indirect.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: But you can't hear the words.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But you can't hear the words.

	Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.		Prabhupāda: Yes, indirect.
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	Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.		Prabhupāda: No, indirect for gross outsiders, not for us. Therefore they should not be played in the temple. Gross outsider only.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: So, Prabhupāda, the New York temple has just produced a ballet on ''Rāmāyaṇa'', and one boy, Vijayadeva, just came back and he brought a slideshow on that ballet.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' So, Prabhupāda, the New York temple has just produced a ballet on ''Rāmāyaṇa'', and one boy, Vijayadeva, just came back and he brought a slideshow on that ballet.

	Prabhupāda: Ballet?		Prabhupāda: Ballet?

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They did a ballet, the New York theater, Sudāmā Swami and his group. But that ballet is accompanied by a classical Western record in background. It's a twenty med . . . they have just played the whole record as background music. And I know, we showed it in Bombay, and none of the devotees liked it. They actually told me to stop that show because they said it's all ''māyā''. Everyone saw it, Girirāja and . . .		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They did a ballet, the New York theater, Sudāmā Swami and his group. But that ballet is accompanied by a classical Western record in background. It's a twenty med . . . they have just played the whole record as background music. And I know, we showed it in Bombay, and none of the devotees liked it. They actually told me to stop that show because they said it's all ''māyā''. Everyone saw it, Girirāja and . . .

	Prabhupāda: So they should be restricted.		Prabhupāda: So they should be restricted.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean, they're playing . . . serious devotees don't like. Like Girirāja walked out of the show, and he told me to stop it.		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I mean, they're playing . . . serious devotees don't like. Like Girirāja walked out of the show, and he told me to stop it.

	Prabhupāda: So why it was played, this?		Prabhupāda: So why it was played, this?

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They just brought it from New York, so we didn't know what it contained. But they are doing this in other centers. (end)		'''Gopāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They just brought it from New York, so we didn't know what it contained. But they are doing this in other centers. (end)

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	Prabhupāda: At least once in a month you must be shaven-headed.		Prabhupāda: At least once in a month you must be shaven-headed.

	Akṣayānanda: Actually, we usually shave more.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually, we usually shave more.

	Prabhupāda: Hmm?		Prabhupāda: Hmm?

	Akṣayānanda: We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' We usually shave more than once a month. Two weeks. 'Cause after even two weeks it looks a little dirty.

	Hari-śauri: We can get very good wigs.		Hari-śauri: We can get very good wigs.
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	Prabhupāda: Oh? It is practice only.		Prabhupāda: Oh? It is practice only.

	Akṣayānanda: No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' No, it's nice. We shouldn't be afraid to do that. Then it will become more and more accepted.

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records . . . I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started, now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.		Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records . . . I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started, now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.
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	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.		Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.

	Akṣayānanda: Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people . . . I said: "Why don't you put to music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your . . ."		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Actually the words are just like modern pop songs. You can't tell really what it means. I suggested to those people . . . I said: "Why don't you put to music to Prabhupāda's books? Take the words straight from your . . ."

	Hari-śauri: No, Prabhupāda's approved this method for attracting ''karmīs''.		Hari-śauri: No, Prabhupāda's approved this method for attracting ''karmīs''.

	Akṣayānanda: Yes, not for devotees.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Yes, not for devotees.

	Hari-śauri: But the thing is, once you become a devotee, we don't need . . .		Hari-śauri: But the thing is, once you become a devotee, we don't need . . .
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	Prabhupāda: Yes.		Prabhupāda: Yes.

	Akṣayānanda: That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' That kind of music also reminds us of past bad activities, sinful activities.

	Hari-śauri: The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?		Hari-śauri: The question is whether should it be played in the temple or not?
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	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that . . . I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the ''brahmacārīs'' were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop . . .		Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I know from practical experience, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that . . . I just played this Alex's record. It's all current pop music with English philosophy wording. (indistinct comments between devotees) And all the ''brahmacārīs'' were so agitated, they came to my room to listen and they were, you know, really making fun of it like it was a pop . . .

	Akṣayānanda: Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.		'''Akṣayānanda:''' Because that style of music, it reminds us of the nightclubs or whatever it might be.

	Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.		Prabhupāda: Therefore I said it is better not to make these records.

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	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records . . . I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started, now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.		Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That's so timely. Once we start diverting, like on these records . . . I was thinking after you told me not to do it. We started, now there's so many. Everyone's into records. Everyone wants to diversify into so many other areas. There's no end to it.

	Jagadīśa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇa-kānti.		'''Jagadīśa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, when you were in Los Angeles you heard that new record by Kṛṣṇa-kānti.

	Hari-śauri: This pop music? This tape that you just got of that Western-style music.		Hari-śauri: This pop music? This tape that you just got of that Western-style music.

	Jagadīśa: Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples, and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "Not in the temples"; Rāmeśvara said . . .		'''Jagadīśa:''' Apparently in a new BBT newsletter which just came yesterday afternoon there's a statement by Rāmeśvara that you were asked whether this record should be played in the temples, and you said, "Why not in the temples?" Hari-śauri thought that you said "Not in the temples"; Rāmeśvara said . . .

	Prabhupāda: No, no. Not in the temple. I . . . I want . . . if the wordings are all right, so there is no . . . if there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.		Prabhupāda: No, no. Not in the temple. I . . . I want . . . if the wordings are all right, so there is no . . . if there is no mistake in the set-up of the wording, the change of musical tune, that is not harmful.
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	Hari-śauri: But we're talking about these songs that they are writing.		Hari-śauri: But we're talking about these songs that they are writing.

	Jagadīśa: Philosophy songs.		'''Jagadīśa:''' Philosophy songs.

	Hari-śauri: Like this, er . . .		Hari-śauri: Like this, er . . .
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	Hari-śauri: Like the "Caterpillar had a change of heart."		Hari-śauri: Like the "Caterpillar had a change of heart."

	Jagadīśa: If the words are all right, then they can be played?		'''Jagadīśa:''' If the words are all right, then they can be played?

	Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.		Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Because no one can hear the words. It's the pop music that people hear.