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	'''Guest (1):''' ''Bhagavad-gītā'' gives the way to go back to Godhead. Otherwise one has to suffer continuously.		'''Guest (1):''' ''Bhagavad-gītā'' gives the way to go back to Godhead. Otherwise one has to suffer continuously.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, this material world, birth after birth. One birth, suffering, then again die, again another birth, again suffering. But the people are kept in ignorance. They do not know how the soul is transmigrating. (aside) <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Aiye. Betiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Come and sit.)</span> From . . . ask them to sit down properly. Why don't you . . . is there any seat, proper? So you . . . <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ye to sub halka hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(This is all right.)</span> What was the topic? What was going on, the topic?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes, this material world, birth after birth. One birth, suffering, then again die, again another birth, again suffering. But the people are kept in ignorance. They do not know how the soul is transmigrating. (aside) <span style="color:#ec710e">Aiye. Betiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Come and sit.)</span> From . . . ask them to sit down properly. Why don't you . . . is there any seat, proper? So you . . . <span style="color:#ec710e">Ye to sub halka hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(This is all right.)</span> What was the topic? What was going on, the topic?

	'''Ānandamaya:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, this morning we went to this engagement. There was the inauguration of the Vivekananda Society Home, so we went there on ''saṅkīrtana'' because we were invited by them. And one ''svāmī'' spoke, and he said service to mankind was also service to God. And at the end he also said that Vivekananda used to say that for the housewife, that the cooking pot was becoming God, had become God, had become a God.		'''Ānandamaya:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, this morning we went to this engagement. There was the inauguration of the Vivekananda Society Home, so we went there on ''saṅkīrtana'' because we were invited by them. And one ''svāmī'' spoke, and he said service to mankind was also service to God. And at the end he also said that Vivekananda used to say that for the housewife, that the cooking pot was becoming God, had become God, had become a God.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Purva janma para janma.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Reincarnation, rebirth.)</span> That we say. Consider. But these varieties are there, so how you can check it? Cause may be different. I have seen while I was in Allahabad one big barrister's sons. One became barrister; another became ''ekala''. You know ''ekala''? ''Ekala'' driver. So the father did not like that, "One of my sons should become ''ekala'', and other son should be like me, barrister," but I have seen. And there are many instances. Father does not want that, "My son should be vagabond, useless," but sometimes they become by their own activities. That independence everyone has got. So that is not father's creation. Your point was "Why God has created like that?" That is foolishness. God says that, "You surrender." But you do not surrender. That is your foolishness.		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Purva janma para janma.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Reincarnation, rebirth.)</span> That we say. Consider. But these varieties are there, so how you can check it? Cause may be different. I have seen while I was in Allahabad one big barrister's sons. One became barrister; another became ''ekala''. You know ''ekala''? ''Ekala'' driver. So the father did not like that, "One of my sons should become ''ekala'', and other son should be like me, barrister," but I have seen. And there are many instances. Father does not want that, "My son should be vagabond, useless," but sometimes they become by their own activities. That independence everyone has got. So that is not father's creation. Your point was "Why God has created like that?" That is foolishness. God says that, "You surrender." But you do not surrender. That is your foolishness.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh? Naturally. Suppose if there is some infectious disease, the doctor says: "Don't go there." And if you go there, you'll be infected. You'll suffer. How the doctor can protect you? Doctor's duty is to warn you not to go to that area, "It is now infected with smallpox." But in spite of doctor's instruction, if you go there and if you infect that disease and suffer, then it is your fault. When a man is hanged by the judgment of the court, do you think that the high-court judge is inimical to that person? He's giving judgment to other persons that, "This one must make one ''lakh'' of rupees from that person." And next judgment, "This man must be hanged." Does it mean the high-court judge is partial? He's simply giving judgment on the merit of the particular case. So there is no argument that, "Why God has created so many varieties?" God has not created; you have created. "Man is the architect of his own fortune." Fortune and misfortune you have created. So we have to suffer or so-called enjoy. There is no enjoyment here. It is simply suffering. But because you are under ''māyā'', you are thinking suffering as enjoying. Just like a hog is eating stool. Other man is becoming: "Very abominable! Oh, what nasty thing he is . . ." But he is enjoying. He is thinking, "I am enjoying the best food." I have seen in aeroplane. One Indian gentleman, he was eating the intestine of the hog. So it was horrible for me, but he was eating very nice.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Eh? Naturally. Suppose if there is some infectious disease, the doctor says: "Don't go there." And if you go there, you'll be infected. You'll suffer. How the doctor can protect you? Doctor's duty is to warn you not to go to that area, "It is now infected with smallpox." But in spite of doctor's instruction, if you go there and if you infect that disease and suffer, then it is your fault. When a man is hanged by the judgment of the court, do you think that the high-court judge is inimical to that person? He's giving judgment to other persons that, "This one must make one ''lakh'' of rupees from that person." And next judgment, "This man must be hanged." Does it mean the high-court judge is partial? He's simply giving judgment on the merit of the particular case. So there is no argument that, "Why God has created so many varieties?" God has not created; you have created. "Man is the architect of his own fortune." Fortune and misfortune you have created. So we have to suffer or so-called enjoy. There is no enjoyment here. It is simply suffering. But because you are under ''māyā'', you are thinking suffering as enjoying. Just like a hog is eating stool. Other man is becoming: "Very abominable! Oh, what nasty thing he is . . ." But he is enjoying. He is thinking, "I am enjoying the best food." I have seen in aeroplane. One Indian gentleman, he was eating the intestine of the hog. So it was horrible for me, but he was eating very nice.

	So in this way the world is going on. "One man's food is another man's poison." So similarly, we are creating our next birth according to our desire. ''Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu'' ([[BG 13.22 (1972)\|BG 13.22]]). According to the infection of the different modes of material nature, we are creating good or bad body next life. The laws of nature is unknown to the foolish society. They are thinking, "This life is everything. Misled, they do not know the aim of life. That is going on. ''Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ'' ([[SB 7.5.31\|SB 7.5.31]]). One blind leader is leading other blind men. This is going on. And when we present the real solution, they say it is brainwash. Now, against our movement there is propaganda in USA, charging that "He has brainwashed them." (aside) You can come here. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Aage badhiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Move forward.)</span> "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." This is our position. When we speak all these things, they say it is brainwashing movement. Actually it is brainwashing movement because we are dissipating all kinds of misunderstanding, values of life. ''Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam''. It is not brainwashing; it is heart-washing. Our heart is stacked with so many dirty things, so we are trying to wash it. ''Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanaṁ bhava-mahā-dāvāgni-nirvāpaṇam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]). And that is our movement. We are trying to cleanse the heart so that he can understand himself. One can understand his real position and then do the needful, and life becomes successful.		So in this way the world is going on. "One man's food is another man's poison." So similarly, we are creating our next birth according to our desire. ''Kāraṇaṁ guṇa-saṅgo 'sya sad-asad-janma-yoniṣu'' ([[BG 13.22 (1972)\|BG 13.22]]). According to the infection of the different modes of material nature, we are creating good or bad body next life. The laws of nature is unknown to the foolish society. They are thinking, "This life is everything. Misled, they do not know the aim of life. That is going on. ''Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānāḥ'' ([[SB 7.5.31\|SB 7.5.31]]). One blind leader is leading other blind men. This is going on. And when we present the real solution, they say it is brainwash. Now, against our movement there is propaganda in USA, charging that "He has brainwashed them." (aside) You can come here. <span style="color:#ec710e">Aage badhiye.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Move forward.)</span> "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." This is our position. When we speak all these things, they say it is brainwashing movement. Actually it is brainwashing movement because we are dissipating all kinds of misunderstanding, values of life. ''Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanam''. It is not brainwashing; it is heart-washing. Our heart is stacked with so many dirty things, so we are trying to wash it. ''Ceto-darpaṇa-mārjanaṁ bhava-mahā-dāvāgni-nirvāpaṇam'' ([[CC Antya 20.12\|CC Antya 20.12]]). And that is our movement. We are trying to cleanse the heart so that he can understand himself. One can understand his real position and then do the needful, and life becomes successful.

	Guest (3) (Indian man): Where is soul?		Guest (3) (Indian man): Where is soul?

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' First of all try to understand. It is . . . the free will is there. If you don't surrender, then, Kṛṣṇa says, ''niyataṁ kuru karma tvaṁ karma jyāyo hy akarmaṇaḥ'': "Instead of sitting idly, better you do your prescribed duty." So prescribed duty is ''cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ'' ([[BG 4.13 (1972)\|BG 4.13]]). According to ''guṇa'' and ''karma'', there are four divisions. So if you are in the first-class division as ''brāhmaṇa'', you do the ''brāhmaṇa's'' work. If you are a ''kṣatriya'', you do the ''kṣatriya's'' . . . ''niyataṁ kuru karma''. What is you are destined, you do that nicely. Don't be idle. That is Kṛṣṇa's in . . . ~~But~~ if you are intelligent, then Kṛṣṇa says, ''sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam'' ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]). But you are foolish, then you be engaged in your prescribed duty. And if you are intelligent, then "You give up everything; simply surrender unto Me." That depends on you. If you are intelligent, you'll surrender; if you are not intelligent, be engaged in your ''karma''. Kṛṣṇa is giving all facilities. Now it is up to you to make your selection. But He says, ''niyataṁ kuru karma''. (aside) Find out this verse.		'''Prabhupāda:''' First of all try to understand. It is . . . the free will is there. If you don't surrender, then, Kṛṣṇa says, ''niyataṁ kuru karma tvaṁ karma jyāyo hy akarmaṇaḥ'': "Instead of sitting idly, better you do your prescribed duty." So prescribed duty is ''cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ'' ([[BG 4.13 (1972)\|BG 4.13]]). According to ''guṇa'' and ''karma'', there are four divisions. So if you are in the first-class division as ''brāhmaṇa'', you do the ''brāhmaṇa's'' work. If you are a ''kṣatriya'', you do the ''kṣatriya's'' . . . ''niyataṁ kuru karma''. What is you are destined, you do that nicely. Don't be idle. That is Kṛṣṇa's in . . . but if you are intelligent, then Kṛṣṇa says, ''sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekam'' ([[BG 18.66 (1972)\|BG 18.66]]). But you are foolish, then you be engaged in your prescribed duty. And if you are intelligent, then "You give up everything; simply surrender unto Me." That depends on you. If you are intelligent, you'll surrender; if you are not intelligent, be engaged in your ''karma''. Kṛṣṇa is giving all facilities. Now it is up to you to make your selection. But He says, ''niyataṁ kuru karma''. (aside) Find out this verse.

	:''niyataṁ kuru karma tvaṁ''		:''niyataṁ kuru karma tvaṁ''

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