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	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Usse labh hoga . . . hai to dijiye usme thoda pani milakar to kya labh.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There will be benefit from that . . . if it is there, then mix a little water and give, then what is the benefit?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Usse labh hoga . . . hai to dijiye usme thoda pani milakar to kya labh.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There will be benefit from that . . . if it is there, then mix a little water and give, then what is the benefit?)</span>

	'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">. . . phark hota hai jaise maine chutpan me Bhagavad-Gita humne padah . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . there is a difference in my childhood. I read ''Bhagavad-gītā'' . . .)</span>		'''Indian lady:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">. . . phark hota hai jaise maine chutpan me Bhagavad-Gita humne padah . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . there is a difference in my childhood. I read ''Bhagavad-gītā'' . . .)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Chutpan me Bhagavad_Gita padhne ka yogyata nahi hai. ab chutpan me aap Gita kahin dekh liya to samajh liye bake bhagvan kehte hain 'imam rajarsayo viduh' ye rajarsah vidya hai moorkh ke liye nahin. chutpan me to moorkh rehta hai usko sab kuch samjha dijiye nahi samhega.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In childhood there was no qualification to read ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Now in my childhood you saw ''Gītā'' somewhere, did you understand? God says: ''Imam rajarsayo viduh.'' This is the top most knowledge, not for foolish people. In my childhood we were fools. If you explain everything to him, he will not understand.)</span> So many . . . (indistinct) . . . that's all right, But if you want to preach ''Bhagavad-gītā'', you have to do like that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Chutpan me Bhagavad_Gita padhne ka yogyata nahi hai. ab chutpan me aap Gita kahin dekh liya to samajh liye bake bhagvan kehte hain 'imam rajarsayo viduh' ye rajarsah vidya hai moorkh ke liye nahin. chutpan me to moorkh rehta hai usko sab kuch samjha dijiye nahi samhega.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(In childhood there was no qualification to read ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Now in my childhood you saw ''Gītā'' somewhere, did you understand? God says: ''Imam rajarsayo viduh.'' This is the top most knowledge, not for foolish people. In my childhood we were fools. If you explain everything to him, he will not understand.)</span> So many . . . (indistinct) . . . that's all right, But if you want to preach ''Bhagavad-gītā'', you have to do like that.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Usko sikhana chahiye Bhagavat Dharma. Ye Bhagavat-Dharma kya hai , usko maloom hai kya hai. Bhagavat Dharma wohi to bhagvan seekha raha hai. 'sarva ' dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja; ye bhagavat dharm hai. aur nahi to bhagvan ka bolne ka kya zaroorat hai 'sarva dharman parityajya' aur koi dharm hai hi nahi, bhagvat dharm hi dharm hai. pehle aap samajhiye phir sabhi ko samajhaye.)</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He must be taught the science of God, what is this science of God? Does he know it? That is what God is teaching ''sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja.'' This is science of God, otherwise what is the use of God saying this ''sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja''? There is no other science, science of God is the only science. First you understand, then explain to others.)</span> (angry) I don't say Caitanya, I say Kṛṣṇa. Why you misunderstand? Don't talk like that. I don't say that. Why you have misunderstood? Don't disturb in that . . . I don't say Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Why you are bringing Caitanya? You are saying. I say what Kṛṣṇa says, you do that.		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Usko sikhana chahiye Bhagavat Dharma. Ye Bhagavat-Dharma kya hai , usko maloom hai kya hai. Bhagavat Dharma wohi to bhagvan seekha raha hai. 'sarva ' dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja; ye bhagavat dharm hai. aur nahi to bhagvan ka bolne ka kya zaroorat hai 'sarva dharman parityajya' aur koi dharm hai hi nahi, bhagvat dharm hi dharm hai. pehle aap samajhiye phir sabhi ko samajhaye.)</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He must be taught the science of God, what is this science of God? Does he know it? That is what God is teaching ''sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja.'' This is science of God, otherwise what is the use of God saying this ''sarva dharman parityajya mam ekam sharanam vraja''? There is no other science, science of God is the only science. First you understand, then explain to others.)</span> (angry) I don't say Caitanya, I say Kṛṣṇa. Why you misunderstand? Don't talk like that. I don't say that. Why you have misunderstood? Don't disturb in that . . . I don't say Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Why you are bringing Caitanya? You are saying. I say what Kṛṣṇa says, you do that.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' If you say my idea, then I become one of you. (laughter) So I don't want that. I say I am foolish man. I have no idea. Whatever Kṛṣṇa says, that is idea. Just like a child, he speaks the words of the father. If the father . . . the child asks, "Father, what is this?" The father says: "This is a stick." So if the child says, "That is a stick," so that is correct. He may be a child; because he repeats the words of the father . . . <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Galat to ho hi nahi sakta hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He cannot be wrong.)</span> <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">. . . ye raja ka hukm hai to raja must be correct then his hukm will be correct.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . this is the king's order, so he must be correct, then his order will be correct. If a ''raja'' is a rascal, then what is the use?)</span> <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Nahi raja to public hai aajkal to democracy hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If the king is a rascal then what is the use? No, the king is part of the public because nowadays it is democracy.)</span> If the people are fools and rascals, then the ''raja'' will be fool and rascal. ''Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra kharaiḥ saṁstutaḥ puruṣaḥ paśuḥ'' ([[SB 2.3.19\|SB 2.3.19]]). <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Bhagvat bolta hai ye jo democracy hai ye sab . . . mane kutta aur . . . mane suar . . . mane camel aur . . . mane ass. . . . agaar kutta . . . kya fayda hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(The ''Bhagavata'' says this democracy is . . . means the dog and . . . means the pig . . . means the camel . . . means the ass . . . if the dog . . . then what is the use?)</span> If you accept Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme, then where is the question of interpretation? . . . (indistinct Hindi) . . . but who accepted? This is a fact. You try to understand that before me for two hundred years so many ''svāmīs'', ''yogīs'' were there—not a single man became Kṛṣṇa conscious . . . (indistinct Hindi) . . . he is not teacher, he is cheater. Why should you change Kṛṣṇa's words? That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu: ''yāre dekha'', ''tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa'' ([[CC Madhya 7.128\|CC Madhya 7.128]]). Don't manufacture. What Kṛṣṇa has said, you say. Just as a child he can say, "This is a stick." "How you have learned?" "Father said." That's all. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Isme mushkil kya hai, itna study karne ka zaroorat kya hai . Jo Krishna bola hai usko bol do bus.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(What is the difficulty in this? What is the need to study so much? Whatever Kṛṣṇa says, just say that. That's all.)</span> I started this business with forty rupees. (laughter) <span style="color:#128807">(Aaplog to bade-bade businessman hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(You are all big businessmen.)</span> Yes. When I went to New York they allowed me only forty rupees. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Wo forty rupees bhi kharch nahi hua, jab laut ke aya . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That forty rupees also I did not spend, when I came back . . .)</span> (end)		'''Prabhupāda:''' If you say my idea, then I become one of you. (laughter) So I don't want that. I say I am foolish man. I have no idea. Whatever Kṛṣṇa says, that is idea. Just like a child, he speaks the words of the father. If the father . . . the child asks, "Father, what is this?" The father says: "This is a stick." So if the child says, "That is a stick," so that is correct. He may be a child; because he repeats the words of the father . . . <span style="color:#ec710e">Galat to ho hi nahi sakta hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He cannot be wrong.)</span> <span style="color:#ec710e">. . . ye raja ka hukm hai to raja must be correct then his hukm will be correct.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . this is the king's order, so he must be correct, then his order will be correct. If a ''raja'' is a rascal, then what is the use?)</span> <span style="color:#ec710e">Nahi raja to public hai aajkal to democracy hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(If the king is a rascal then what is the use? No, the king is part of the public because nowadays it is democracy.)</span> If the people are fools and rascals, then the ''raja'' will be fool and rascal. ''Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra kharaiḥ saṁstutaḥ puruṣaḥ paśuḥ'' ([[SB 2.3.19\|SB 2.3.19]]). <span style="color:#ec710e">Bhagvat bolta hai ye jo democracy hai ye sab . . . mane kutta aur . . . mane suar . . . mane camel aur . . . mane ass. . . . agaar kutta . . . kya fayda hai?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(The ''Bhagavata'' says this democracy is . . . means the dog and . . . means the pig . . . means the camel . . . means the ass . . . if the dog . . . then what is the use?)</span> If you accept Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme, then where is the question of interpretation? . . . (indistinct Hindi) . . . but who accepted? This is a fact. You try to understand that before me for two hundred years so many ''svāmīs'', ''yogīs'' were there—not a single man became Kṛṣṇa conscious . . . (indistinct Hindi) . . . he is not teacher, he is cheater. Why should you change Kṛṣṇa's words? That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu: ''yāre dekha'', ''tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa'' ([[CC Madhya 7.128\|CC Madhya 7.128]]). Don't manufacture. What Kṛṣṇa has said, you say. Just as a child he can say, "This is a stick." "How you have learned?" "Father said." That's all. <span style="color:#ec710e">Isme mushkil kya hai, itna study karne ka zaroorat kya hai . Jo Krishna bola hai usko bol do bus.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(What is the difficulty in this? What is the need to study so much? Whatever Kṛṣṇa says, just say that. That's all.)</span> I started this business with forty rupees. (laughter) <span style="color:#128807">(Aaplog to bade-bade businessman hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(You are all big businessmen.)</span> Yes. When I went to New York they allowed me only forty rupees. <span style="color:#ec710e">Wo forty rupees bhi kharch nahi hua, jab laut ke aya . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That forty rupees also I did not spend, when I came back . . .)</span> (end)

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Then you first of all learn Sanskrit, then you . . . (indistinct) . . . if there is . . . (indistinct) . . . this practice should be stopped. If you want to preach ''Bhagavad-gītā'', and if you want to preach your own philosophy through ''Bhagavad-gītā'', don't do this preaching. You preach your philosophy, your . . . (indistinct) . . . you can preach any philosophy you like, but don't take ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and . . . (indistinct) . . . on it. That is my . . . (indistinct) . . . that is being done. That is being done. So therefore, instead of studying, collecting so many literatures, why not take ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is and preach? And as evidence to prove he is . . . (indistinct) . . . all over the world. Before me for 200 years there was preaching of ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Not a single person became . . . it is the history of . . . (indistinct) . . . now you see thousands. Why? Because there is no interpretation. There is no interpretation. Kṛṣṇa says, "I am the Supreme." ''Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat'' ([[BG 7.7 (1972)\|BG 7.7]]).		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Then you first of all learn Sanskrit, then you . . . (indistinct) . . . if there is . . . (indistinct) . . . this practice should be stopped. If you want to preach ''Bhagavad-gītā'', and if you want to preach your own philosophy through ''Bhagavad-gītā'', don't do this preaching. You preach your philosophy, your . . . (indistinct) . . . you can preach any philosophy you like, but don't take ''Bhagavad-gītā'' and . . . (indistinct) . . . on it. That is my . . . (indistinct) . . . that is being done. That is being done. So therefore, instead of studying, collecting so many literatures, why not take ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is and preach? And as evidence to prove he is . . . (indistinct) . . . all over the world. Before me for 200 years there was preaching of ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Not a single person became . . . it is the history of . . . (indistinct) . . . now you see thousands. Why? Because there is no interpretation. There is no interpretation. Kṛṣṇa says, "I am the Supreme." ''Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat'' ([[BG 7.7 (1972)\|BG 7.7]]).

	We are presenting, "Here is God." You are searching after God, Kṛṣṇa, and they are accepting. They do not . . . (indistinct) . . . what is Kṛṣṇa. What is this? How they are accepting? Because it is the real thing, there is no interpretation. They are not Hindus, they are not born in India. How they have come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness? They have given up bad habits, no illicit sex. Because you cannot understand Kṛṣṇa unless you are free from all sinful activities. Anyone who is sinful, he cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. ''Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ'' ([[BG 7.15 (1972)\|BG 7.15]]). We test him. We test like this, that Kṛṣṇa says this, that anyone who does not surrender to Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Lord, he is under the four groups: ''duṣkṛtina'', ''mūḍhāḥ'', ''narādhamāḥ'', ''māyayāpahṛta-jñānā''. That's it. We are fools and rascals, we have no such education. But we take Kṛṣṇa's word that "Here is a fool, here is a sinful man, here is a ''narādhamāḥ'', here is ''māyayāpahṛta''." So unless you stick to this point, that we shall preach ''Bhagavad-gītā'' . . . (indistinct) . . . then there is no meaning of it. You are misled, you will mislead others. But if you take ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is, as Kṛṣṇa said, then . . . Ii you are not prepared to do that, then however . . . (indistinct) . . . interpretation, thousands of literatures, the result is . . . (indistinct) . . . this is practical.		We are presenting, "Here is God." You are searching after God, Kṛṣṇa, and they are accepting. They do not . . . (indistinct) . . . what is Kṛṣṇa. What is this? How they are accepting? Because it is the real thing, there is no interpretation. They are not Hindus, they are not born in India. How they have come to Kṛṣṇa consciousness? They have given up bad habits, no illicit sex. Because you cannot understand Kṛṣṇa unless you are free from all sinful activities. Anyone who is sinful, he cannot understand Kṛṣṇa. ''Na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ prapadyante narādhamāḥ'' ([[BG 7.15 (1972)\|BG 7.15]]). We test him. We test like this, that Kṛṣṇa says this, that anyone who does not surrender to Kṛṣṇa as the Supreme Lord, he is under the four groups: ''duṣkṛtina'', ''mūḍhāḥ'', ''narādhamāḥ'', ''māyayāpahṛta-jñānā''. That's it. We are fools and rascals, we have no such education. But we take Kṛṣṇa's word that "Here is a fool, here is a sinful man, here is a ''narādhamāḥ'', here is ''māyayāpahṛta''." So unless you stick to this point, that we shall preach ''Bhagavad-gītā'' . . . (indistinct) . . . then there is no meaning of it. You are misled, you will mislead others. But if you take ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is, as Kṛṣṇa said, then . . . if you are not prepared to do that, then however . . . (indistinct) . . . interpretation, thousands of literatures, the result is . . . (indistinct) . . . this is practical.

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RasaRasika: Text replacement - "#ff9933" to "#ec710e"

RasaRasika at 03:11, 17 November 2023

RasaRasika: Text replacement - "''' Listen to a 'Nectar Drop' created from this Conversation''']]" to "''' Listen to a 'Nectar Drop' created from this lecture''']]"

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