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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' First-class theists.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' First-class theists.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Now they are atheists. They will become first-class theists. I think that there is . . . just like Jagāi and Mādhāi. Jagāi and Mādhāi became great devotees. Vālmī~~(?)~~. Vālmī was a dacoit. He became a . . . there are so many cases. Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is so superexcellent that we can turn the whole Russia to devotee. That is possible. They are searching after something solid and factual. They are harassed with this so-called Christian religion, Pope, and . . . that is a fact. They do not want anything humbug. But when they very critically read our literature, they will become devotee.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Now they are atheists. They will become first-class theists. I think that there is . . . just like Jagāi and Mādhāi. Jagāi and Mādhāi became great devotees. Vālmī. Vālmī was a dacoit. He became a . . . there are so many cases. Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu's movement is so superexcellent that we can turn the whole Russia to devotee. That is possible. They are searching after something solid and factual. They are harassed with this so-called Christian religion, Pope, and . . . that is a fact. They do not want anything humbug. But when they very critically read our literature, they will become devotee.

	'''Guru dāsa:''' And they will read it more critically than people who have so much sense gratification.		'''Guru dāsa:''' And they will read it more critically than people who have so much sense gratification.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' And respectable gentlemen will understand what is this temple. It is not this ordinary.		'''Prabhupāda:''' And respectable gentlemen will understand what is this temple. It is not this ordinary.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' In Hyderabad they can do the same. (aside:) So you are going to get copies made and make a block?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' In Hyderabad they can do the same. (aside) So you are going to get copies made and make a block?

	'''Gargamuni:''' Oh, yeah, I am going to send a man down today.		'''Gargamuni:''' Oh, yeah, I am going to send a man down today.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But what about in Bengali? There must be . . .		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' But what about in Bengali? There must be . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, that is rubbish. They do not know what is ''Bhāgavatam''. How they will translate? Professional translation is not . . . ''~~Bhāgavata~~-pado giya bhāgavata sthāne''. "Whose life is ''Bhāgavatam'', go there and read ''Bhāgavatam''." That is the recommendation. That is the order of Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī. Ordinary men, what they will understand, ''Bhāgavatam''? ''Bhāgavatam ''is not for ordinary men. ''Paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ satāṁ vāstavam vastu vedyam atra ''([[SB 1.1.2\|SB 1.1.2]]). In the beginning it is said unless one is ''paramahaṁsa'', he cannot understand. ''Paramo nirmatsarāṇām''.		'''Prabhupāda:''' No, no, that is rubbish. They do not know what is ''Bhāgavatam''. How they will translate? Professional translation is not . . . ''bhāgavata-pado giya bhāgavata sthāne''. "Whose life is ''Bhāgavatam'', go there and read ''Bhāgavatam''." That is the recommendation. That is the order of Svarūpa Dāmodara Gosvāmī. Ordinary men, what they will understand, ''Bhāgavatam''? ''Bhāgavatam ''is not for ordinary men. ''Paramo nirmatsarāṇāṁ satāṁ vāstavam vastu vedyam atra ''([[SB 1.1.2\|SB 1.1.2]]). In the beginning it is said unless one is ''paramahaṁsa'', he cannot understand. ''Paramo nirmatsarāṇām''.

	'''Guru dāsa:''' Yes. Tapomaya has taken the boat out.		'''Guru dāsa:''' Yes. Tapomaya has taken the boat out.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Then what is the use of his preaching? They will continue sinful activities, and Jesus Christ will take contract for saving them. How nonsense idea this is! Bhavānanda, do you think it is good idea?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Then what is the use of his preaching? They will continue sinful activities, and Jesus Christ will take contract for saving them. How nonsense idea this is! Bhavānanda, do you think it is good idea?

	Bhavānanda: Not a good idea, Śrīla Prabhupāda.		'''Bhavānanda:''' Not a good idea, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Nonsense rascals. These people should be immediately hanged.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Nonsense rascals. These people should be immediately hanged.
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	'''Guru dāsa:''' Yes. I went to the visa department. I just thought I should go. And I spoke to one man there. And I said: "Why is that we always have to spend five or six ''lakhs ''going and coming for no use? We are doing such good work. We could put that five or six ''lakhs ''into India." He said: "What can I do? I am under the law also." I said: "The law is needing some change." He said: "Your organization already changes the law." (laughing) He said: "You never follow the rules." So I said: "That is indicative that the law is not good." So then he said: "Let us see after the election." Anyway, I spoke to him that this is useless, that we spend five or six ''lakhs ''every year going and coming for no need.		'''Guru dāsa:''' Yes. I went to the visa department. I just thought I should go. And I spoke to one man there. And I said: "Why is that we always have to spend five or six ''lakhs ''going and coming for no use? We are doing such good work. We could put that five or six ''lakhs ''into India." He said: "What can I do? I am under the law also." I said: "The law is needing some change." He said: "Your organization already changes the law." (laughing) He said: "You never follow the rules." So I said: "That is indicative that the law is not good." So then he said: "Let us see after the election." Anyway, I spoke to him that this is useless, that we spend five or six ''lakhs ''every year going and coming for no need.

	Bhavānanda: We don't stay out. They tell us to leave—we leave; one week later we're back.		'''Bhavānanda:''' We don't stay out. They tell us to leave—we leave; one week later we're back.

	'''Guru dāsa:''' Yes.		'''Guru dāsa:''' Yes.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He is famous as an ''avatāra ''there. (laughter) They say that there is three ''avatāras ''of the age. One newspaper reporter reported that there are three ''avatāras ''of this age. First one is . . .		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He is famous as an ''avatāra ''there. (laughter) They say that there is three ''avatāras ''of the age. One newspaper reporter reported that there are three ''avatāras ''of this age. First one is . . .

	Bhavānanda: Mao Tse Tung of China,		'''Bhavānanda:''' Mao Tse Tung of China,

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Mao Tse Tung of China. And who was the second?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Mao Tse Tung of China. And who was the second?

	Bhavānanda: Satya Sai Baba from the South.		'''Bhavānanda:''' Satya Sai Baba from the South.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' And Bhavānanda Goswami of Māyāpur. (laughter)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' And Bhavānanda Goswami of Māyāpur. (laughter)

	Bhavānanda: (laughing) I was an ''avatāra''.		'''Bhavānanda:''' (laughing) I was an ''avatāra''.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' And I have seen practically, even if they don't regard him as an ''avatāra'', I was amazed, Prabhupāda, that people come and they ask, "Where's Bhavānanda Goswami?" And they look everywhere for him, and then they all bow down. He is famous. Simply because he performed strict ''cātur-māsya'', so many people took notice.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' And I have seen practically, even if they don't regard him as an ''avatāra'', I was amazed, Prabhupāda, that people come and they ask, "Where's Bhavānanda Goswami?" And they look everywhere for him, and then they all bow down. He is famous. Simply because he performed strict ''cātur-māsya'', so many people took notice.
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	'''Guru dāsa:''' He has descended to give you massage. (laughter)		'''Guru dāsa:''' He has descended to give you massage. (laughter)

	Bhavānanda: (massaging Śrīla Prabhupāda) Now I think this side is no longer sore. This side.		'''Bhavānanda:''' (massaging Śrīla Prabhupāda) Now I think this side is no longer sore. This side.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Striking on the bone, so for an old man striking on the bone is very harmful.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. Striking on the bone, so for an old man striking on the bone is very harmful.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' So Bhavānanda can go. For my bodily comforts, preaching should not suffer. This can be done somebody else. Preaching is our first program.		'''Prabhupāda:''' So Bhavānanda can go. For my bodily comforts, preaching should not suffer. This can be done somebody else. Preaching is our first program.

	Bhavānanda: Śrīla Prabhupāda, we have decided last night that when Upendra comes . . . we sent them a telegram. I'll train him up for a few days and then . . .		'''Bhavānanda:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, we have decided last night that when Upendra comes . . . we sent them a telegram. I'll train him up for a few days and then . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all, that's all. That will be very nice. So call him. You are now popular in Bengal, ''avatāra''. (laughter)		'''Prabhupāda:''' That's all, that's all. That will be very nice. So call him. You are now popular in Bengal, ''avatāra''. (laughter)
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So ask Upendra to come. Let him be trained up.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. So ask Upendra to come. Let him be trained up.

	Bhavānanda: Kṣīra-corā-gopīnātha is going to put some of your lectures in English script Bengali so I can give lectures. Is that all right?		'''Bhavānanda:''' Kṣīra-corā-gopīnātha is going to put some of your lectures in English script Bengali so I can give lectures. Is that all right?

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. They will be very eager to hear from you Bengali. Yes. Now Kṛṣṇa is giving us so much opportunities. Utilize it. And be steady in your character, in your behavior, in our regulative principles. Then the spiritual strength will be there, and it will be . . . (indistinct) . . . there is no doubt. ''Kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe nāma-pracāra''. You must draw the spiritual ''śakti''. That is unlimited. ''Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam'', ''buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam ''([[BG 10.10 (1972)\|BG 10.10]]). Immediately, He can make everything possible.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. They will be very eager to hear from you Bengali. Yes. Now Kṛṣṇa is giving us so much opportunities. Utilize it. And be steady in your character, in your behavior, in our regulative principles. Then the spiritual strength will be there, and it will be . . . (indistinct) . . . there is no doubt. ''Kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe nāma-pracāra''. You must draw the spiritual ''śakti''. That is unlimited. ''Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam'', ''buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam ''([[BG 10.10 (1972)\|BG 10.10]]). Immediately, He can make everything possible.

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	Prabhupāda: Very good.		Prabhupāda: Very good.

	Girirāja: I spoke to Mr. Rajda on the telephone this morning. So he has already spoken to the prime minister about your meeting, and the prime minister gladly accepted.		'''Girirāja:''' I spoke to Mr. Rajda on the telephone this morning. So he has already spoken to the prime minister about your meeting, and the prime minister gladly accepted.

	Prabhupāda: Oh.		Prabhupāda: Oh.

	Girirāja: So he told him that you weren't able to come to Delhi now. So I told him that he should again speak to him that when he comes to Bombay, he can meet you here. So Mr. Rajda said that there is no difficulty in arranging that, and that he would speak to the prime minister today.		'''Girirāja:''' So he told him that you weren't able to come to Delhi now. So I told him that he should again speak to him that when he comes to Bombay, he can meet you here. So Mr. Rajda said that there is no difficulty in arranging that, and that he would speak to the prime minister today.

	Prabhupāda: He wants me to meet there in Delhi.		Prabhupāda: He wants me to meet there in Delhi.

	Girirāja: No. He is going to arrange for the prime minister to meet you here in Bombay.		'''Girirāja:''' No. He is going to arrange for the prime minister to meet you here in Bombay.

	'''Gargamuni:''' When he comes here.		'''Gargamuni:''' When he comes here.

	Girirāja: At Juhu.		'''Girirāja:''' At Juhu.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' At Juhu?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' At Juhu?
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	Prabhupāda: Immediately one copy send to Mr. Rajda.		Prabhupāda: Immediately one copy send to Mr. Rajda.

	Girirāja: Now Mr. Rajda is coming tomorrow for one day.		'''Girirāja:''' Now Mr. Rajda is coming tomorrow for one day.

	Prabhupāda: So let him meet me, appoint him, give him some time. Invite him for ''prasādam''. With his associates.		Prabhupāda: So let him meet me, appoint him, give him some time. Invite him for ''prasādam''. With his associates.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' With his associates.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' With his associates.

	Girirāja: He is coming in the morning and leaving in the evening.		'''Girirāja:''' He is coming in the morning and leaving in the evening.

	Prabhupāda: So daytime he can take . . .		Prabhupāda: So daytime he can take . . .
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Lunch ''prasādam''.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Lunch ''prasādam''.

	Girirāja: Well, see he's coming because he is a leader in the municipal corporation, and tomorrow they are electing the new mayor. So I was thinking that probably on the way to the airport in the evening we could invite him to stop here.		'''Girirāja:''' Well, see he's coming because he is a leader in the municipal corporation, and tomorrow they are electing the new mayor. So I was thinking that probably on the way to the airport in the evening we could invite him to stop here.

	Prabhupāda: Yes.		Prabhupāda: Yes.

	Girirāja: Otherwise, he is coming back on the 8th to spend about a week here.		'''Girirāja:''' Otherwise, he is coming back on the 8th to spend about a week here.

	Prabhupāda: Oh.		Prabhupāda: Oh.

	Girirāja: But he is very enthusiastic.		'''Girirāja:''' But he is very enthusiastic.

	Prabhupāda: Very good. He is a good boy.		Prabhupāda: Very good. He is a good boy.

	Girirāja: He said: "I am all out for this movement. I am all out for Swami Prabhupāda."		'''Girirāja:''' He said: "I am all out for this movement. I am all out for Swami Prabhupāda."

	Prabhupāda: Send him this remark from the chief minister. He'll so much appreciate.		Prabhupāda: Send him this remark from the chief minister. He'll so much appreciate.

	Girirāja: Yes.		'''Girirāja:''' Yes.

	Prabhupāda: Everyone is appreciating this movement. Gradually, they will appreciate.		Prabhupāda: Everyone is appreciating this movement. Gradually, they will appreciate.
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	'''Gargamuni:''' Say "It's due to your letters that . . ."		'''Gargamuni:''' Say "It's due to your letters that . . ."

	Girirāja: I am making a block that will reproduce exactly the article as it appeared in the paper that had the . . .		'''Girirāja:''' I am making a block that will reproduce exactly the article as it appeared in the paper that had the . . .

	'''Gargamuni:''' Send it as a thank-you note to the people who sent the letters.		'''Gargamuni:''' Send it as a thank-you note to the people who sent the letters.

	Girirāja: Yes, I am going to. I am going to send it to all the members.		'''Girirāja:''' Yes, I am going to. I am going to send it to all the members.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' What about to other people around India who we don't have their names? We could have Ādi-keśa do that. He should actually do it.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' What about to other people around India who we don't have their names? We could have Ādi-keśa do that. He should actually do it.

	Girirāja: Yeah. Because Prabhupāda said that it should be sent to all the parents of devotees. We could send one original to Rāmeśvara and Ādi-keśava . . .		'''Girirāja:''' Yeah. Because Prabhupāda said that it should be sent to all the parents of devotees. We could send one original to Rāmeśvara and Ādi-keśava . . .

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, Ādi-keśa Mahārāja has at least a couple of hundred letters from people in groups in India, from Vṛndāvana, all over the country. I think I could send him a copy of this article and he could send a thank-you letter along with this article to each of them, thanking them for their help. They appreciate it, coming from America, that the president of the New York center himself wrote them.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, Ādi-keśa Mahārāja has at least a couple of hundred letters from people in groups in India, from Vṛndāvana, all over the country. I think I could send him a copy of this article and he could send a thank-you letter along with this article to each of them, thanking them for their help. They appreciate it, coming from America, that the president of the New York center himself wrote them.
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	'''Gargamuni:''' They can make it in a marble. A block marble. Hang it up.		'''Gargamuni:''' They can make it in a marble. A block marble. Hang it up.

	Girirāja: Yes.		'''Girirāja:''' Yes.

	Prabhupāda: Similarly, the judgment of high court, that should be also printed.		Prabhupāda: Similarly, the judgment of high court, that should be also printed.
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	Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. They will be very eager to hear from you Bengali. Yes. Now Kṛṣṇa is giving us so much opportunities. Utilize it. And be steady in your character, in your behavior, in our regulative principles. Then the spiritual strength will be there, and it will be . . . (indistinct) . . . there is no doubt. ''Kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe nāma-pracāra''. You must draw the spiritual ''śakti''. That is unlimited. ''Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam'', ''buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam ''([[BG 10.10 (1972)\|BG 10.10]]). Immediately, He can make everything possible.		Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. They will be very eager to hear from you Bengali. Yes. Now Kṛṣṇa is giving us so much opportunities. Utilize it. And be steady in your character, in your behavior, in our regulative principles. Then the spiritual strength will be there, and it will be . . . (indistinct) . . . there is no doubt. ''Kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe nāma-pracāra''. You must draw the spiritual ''śakti''. That is unlimited. ''Teṣāṁ satata-yuktānāṁ bhajatāṁ prīti-pūrvakam'', ''buddhi-yogaṁ dadāmi tam ''([[BG 10.10 (1972)\|BG 10.10]]). Immediately, He can make everything possible.

	Girirāja: Mr. Rajda also mentioned that he wanted to visit the Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma temple.		'''Girirāja:''' Mr. Rajda also mentioned that he wanted to visit the Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma temple.

	Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Give him good reception.		Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Give him good reception.

	Girirāja: Actually, I was thinking, after he comes on the 8th, he is going back again on the 14th.		'''Girirāja:''' Actually, I was thinking, after he comes on the 8th, he is going back again on the 14th.

	Prabhupāda: Immediately inform Vṛndāvana, our Akṣayānanda, that this man should be very well received.		Prabhupāda: Immediately inform Vṛndāvana, our Akṣayānanda, that this man should be very well received.

	Girirāja: I was thinking that unless I go and bring him, he might be too busy with the political affairs.		'''Girirāja:''' I was thinking that unless I go and bring him, he might be too busy with the political affairs.

	Prabhupāda: So what you are to go? Where you want to go?		Prabhupāda: So what you are to go? Where you want to go?

	Girirāja: Well, what I was thinking, if you agree, is to go to Delhi for a few days, and he could introduce me to the pious members of Parliament, and then we could organize a whole group, and I could bring them there.		'''Girirāja:''' Well, what I was thinking, if you agree, is to go to Delhi for a few days, and he could introduce me to the pious members of Parliament, and then we could organize a whole group, and I could bring them there.

	Prabhupāda: Do the needful. Go. At least, in India, there must be this spiritual institution. The whole world may take advantage of it. What is this cats' and dogs' race civilization? Is that civilization? Here is civilization, ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Basic principles of civilization. So India should maintain this. People may . . . there are so many big universities. A student may go or may not go, but the university must be maintained. Because there is no student, therefore university closed—no. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness institution must be maintained for the benefit of the whole world. ''Mṛtyu-saṁsāra-vartmani ''([[BG 9.3 (1972)\|BG 9.3]]). They do not know how nature's law is working. (pause)		Prabhupāda: Do the needful. Go. At least, in India, there must be this spiritual institution. The whole world may take advantage of it. What is this cats' and dogs' race civilization? Is that civilization? Here is civilization, ''Bhagavad-gītā''. Basic principles of civilization. So India should maintain this. People may . . . there are so many big universities. A student may go or may not go, but the university must be maintained. Because there is no student, therefore university closed—no. This Kṛṣṇa consciousness institution must be maintained for the benefit of the whole world. ''Mṛtyu-saṁsāra-vartmani ''([[BG 9.3 (1972)\|BG 9.3]]). They do not know how nature's law is working. (pause)
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, do you think that you'll be lecturing this evening? I mean, are people going to be here or at the ''paṇḍāl''?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, do you think that you'll be lecturing this evening? I mean, are people going to be here or at the ''paṇḍāl''?

	Girirāja: I think most people will be at the ''paṇḍāl ''today. Maybe we could send out invitations and make publicity for next Sunday.		'''Girirāja:''' I think most people will be at the ''paṇḍāl ''today. Maybe we could send out invitations and make publicity for next Sunday.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' It should be a big thing, prominent. (end)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' It should be a big thing, prominent. (end)