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	'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Phir kiski iccha karen?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Then whom to desire for?)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Phir kiski iccha karen?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Then whom to desire for?)</span>

	'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Jo natural hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That which is natural.)</span> Bhagavān is the Supreme. We are part and parcel. So I have already given you the example, these fingers, part and parcel of the body. The only desire should be how to serve the body. That is . . . (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">abhi kitna kaam karte hain, tel le aao, . . . pakad liya. Ye nahi bolta hum khayenge, khud liya, we eat. Humara stage jo hai aur khoob pakad-pakad ke bhagvan ko khilao. Abhi . . . ye iccha jab palat jayega hum nahi khayenge, bhagvan . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . now how much he works, go and get oil, . . . caught it. He does not say I will eat it, takes it himself—we eat. Our stage is we forcibly make God eat. Now when this desire changes, then we will not eat, God . . .)</span> that desire is the . . . Then where is that picture? The ''gopīs'' are pushing Rādhārāṇī to Kṛṣṇa? <span style="color:#ff9933">Ye picture hai padhiye usme kya likha hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Read what is written there in the picture.)</span>		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Jo natural hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That which is natural.)</span> Bhagavān is the Supreme. We are part and parcel. So I have already given you the example, these fingers, part and parcel of the body. The only desire should be how to serve the body. That is . . . (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">abhi kitna kaam karte hain, tel le aao, . . . pakad liya. Ye nahi bolta hum khayenge, khud liya, we eat. Humara stage jo hai aur khoob pakad-pakad ke bhagvan ko khilao. Abhi . . . ye iccha jab palat jayega hum nahi khayenge, bhagvan . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . now how much he works, go and get oil, . . . caught it. He does not say I will eat it, takes it himself—we eat. Our stage is we forcibly make God eat. Now when this desire changes, then we will not eat, God . . .)</span> that desire is the . . . Then where is that picture? The gopīs are pushing Rādhārāṇī to Kṛṣṇa? <span style="color:#ff9933">Ye picture hai padhiye usme kya likha hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Read what is written there in the picture.)</span>

	'''Indian man (1):''' Kṛṣṇa likes Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.		'''Indian man (1):''' Kṛṣṇa likes Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.

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	'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo vedantist thoda hi tha. Ramchandra bole pahad se dawai le aao, wo ud karke kahan dawai hai pura pahad hi utha le aaya, lijiye Mahraj pahad, aap dawai dhoond lijiye. Seva vritti, usi me bajrangji . . . bhakti, gyan-vairagya anavritti gyan viairagya se, balki gyan-vairagya bhakti ka . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He was not a vedantist. Lord Ramchandra told him to get medicine from a mountain. Hanuman flew to search for medicine in the mountain, he brought the entire mountain and told his Lord to search for the medicine. Serving attitude, only in that he . . . devotion, knowledge and renunciation—knowledge comes from renunciation. In fact knowledge and renunciation is part of devotion . . .)</span>		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo vedantist thoda hi tha. Ramchandra bole pahad se dawai le aao, wo ud karke kahan dawai hai pura pahad hi utha le aaya, lijiye Mahraj pahad, aap dawai dhoond lijiye. Seva vritti, usi me bajrangji . . . bhakti, gyan-vairagya anavritti gyan viairagya se, balki gyan-vairagya bhakti ka . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He was not a vedantist. Lord Ramchandra told him to get medicine from a mountain. Hanuman flew to search for medicine in the mountain, he brought the entire mountain and told his Lord to search for the medicine. Serving attitude, only in that he . . . devotion, knowledge and renunciation—knowledge comes from renunciation. In fact knowledge and renunciation is part of devotion . . .)</span>

	Without ''bhakti'', ''jñāna'' is never sufficient, but bhakti does not depend . . . ''~~Ahaituky~~ apratihatā''. It cannot be checked. <span style="color:#ff9933">Gyan jab Bhagavan unko svayam de raha hai . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(When God Himself is giving him knowledge . . .)</span> "tesa anukampartham aham agyanayan tamang na sayati." <span style="color:#ff9933">Jiska agyan chala gaya, usko alagse gyan sikhneke kya jarurat?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(One who is already out of ignorance, why does he need to take knowledge again?)</span> Bhagavān is within. ''Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati'' ([[BG 18.61 (1972)\|BG 18.61]]).		Without ''bhakti'', ''jñāna'' is never sufficient, but bhakti does not depend . . . ''ahaituky apratihatā''. It cannot be checked. <span style="color:#ff9933">Gyan jab Bhagavan unko svayam de raha hai . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(When God Himself is giving him knowledge . . .)</span> "tesa anukampartham aham agyanayan tamang na sayati." <span style="color:#ff9933">Jiska agyan chala gaya, usko alagse gyan sikhneke kya jarurat?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(One who is already out of ignorance, why does he need to take knowledge again?)</span> Bhagavān is within. ''Īśvaraḥ sarva-bhūtānāṁ hṛd-deśe 'rjuna tiṣṭhati'' ([[BG 18.61 (1972)\|BG 18.61]]).

	And He assures . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">ki bhakt ko hum special favour denge " tesa eva anukampartham . . ." usko agyan kahan hai. Ye galat baat hai ki bhakt log agyani hain. Bhakt log ka hi asal gyan hai. Gyan siddhi hone ke paschat bhakti. "brahma bhuta prasannatma na sochati na kanksati."</span> <span style="color:#128807">(The Lord assures us that he will give a special favor to the devotees. "''Tesa eva anukampartham'' . . ." He is not in ignorance. This is a misconception that devotees are ignorant. Devotees' knowledge is real knowledge. After acquiring knowledge, then devotion. "''Brahma bhuta prasannatma na socati na kanksati''.")</span> The so-called ''jñānī'', he wants to become liberated and become one with the Supreme—''kāṅkṣati''. When actually one is self-realized, ''na kāṅkṣati. Yogī kāṅkṣati''. <span style="color:#ff9933">Siddhi kya magic dikhane se, kanksati, balki real bhakti jo hai na kanksati. To kaun hai? "mad bhakte labhate param sama sarvesu bhutesu" . . . ye sab stage paar karke na kanksati. Karmi log bolta hai ye cheez hamare pas nahi hai, ye cheeez hamara tha kho baitha. Gyani log na kanksati. humko mukti chahiye, unko siddhi chahiye. To ye brahma bhuta stage nahi hai, wo ek stage hai, ek aavaran hai gyan-vairagya. Theek hai ki nahi, jab brahma bhuta ho jayega to usko akanshka kya.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can we achieve something by magic? ''Kanksati'', but actual devotion is not aspiring for oneself. So who is it? "''Mad bhakte labhate param sama sarvesu bhutesu''." After going through these stages then one becomes desireless. The materialists say that I don't have this, I had this but I lost it. But the one who is in knowledge is desireless. I want liberation, but they want ''siddhis''. So this is not the ''brahma bhuta'' stage—that is one stage, one covering. Knowledge and renunciation. Am I right? When he is fully realized, then where are the desires?)</span>		And He assures . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">ki bhakt ko hum special favour denge " tesa eva anukampartham . . ." usko agyan kahan hai. Ye galat baat hai ki bhakt log agyani hain. Bhakt log ka hi asal gyan hai. Gyan siddhi hone ke paschat bhakti. "brahma bhuta prasannatma na sochati na kanksati."</span> <span style="color:#128807">(The Lord assures us that he will give a special favor to the devotees. "''Tesa eva anukampartham'' . . ." He is not in ignorance. This is a misconception that devotees are ignorant. Devotees' knowledge is real knowledge. After acquiring knowledge, then devotion. "''Brahma bhuta prasannatma na socati na kanksati''.")</span> The so-called ''jñānī'', he wants to become liberated and become one with the Supreme—''kāṅkṣati''. When actually one is self-realized, ''na kāṅkṣati. Yogī kāṅkṣati''. <span style="color:#ff9933">Siddhi kya magic dikhane se, kanksati, balki real bhakti jo hai na kanksati. To kaun hai? "mad bhakte labhate param sama sarvesu bhutesu" . . . ye sab stage paar karke na kanksati. Karmi log bolta hai ye cheez hamare pas nahi hai, ye cheeez hamara tha kho baitha. Gyani log na kanksati. humko mukti chahiye, unko siddhi chahiye. To ye brahma bhuta stage nahi hai, wo ek stage hai, ek aavaran hai gyan-vairagya. Theek hai ki nahi, jab brahma bhuta ho jayega to usko akanshka kya.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Can we achieve something by magic? ''Kanksati'', but actual devotion is not aspiring for oneself. So who is it? "''Mad bhakte labhate param sama sarvesu bhutesu''." After going through these stages then one becomes desireless. The materialists say that I don't have this, I had this but I lost it. But the one who is in knowledge is desireless. I want liberation, but they want ''siddhis''. So this is not the ''brahma bhuta'' stage—that is one stage, one covering. Knowledge and renunciation. Am I right? When he is fully realized, then where are the desires?)</span>
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	'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Phir kiski iccha karen?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Then whom to desire for?)</span>		'''Guest:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Phir kiski iccha karen?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Then whom to desire for?)</span>

	'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Jo natural hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That which is natural.)</span> Bhagavān is the Supreme. We are part and parcel. So I have already given you the example, these fingers, part and parcel of the body. The only desire should be how to serve the body. That is . . . (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">abhi kitna kaam karte hain, tel le aao, . . . pakad liya. Ye nahi bolta hum khayenge, khud liya, we eat. Humara stage jo hai aur khoob pakad-pakad ke bhagvan ko khilao. Abhi . . . ye iccha jab palat jayega hum nahi khayenge, bhagvan . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . now how much he works, go and get oil, . . . caught it. He does not say I will eat it, takes it himself—we eat. Our stage is we forcibly make God eat. Now when this desire changes, then we will not eat, God . . .)</span> that desire is the . . . ~~Then~~ where is that picture? The gopīs are pushing Rādhārāṇī to Kṛṣṇa? <span style="color:#ff9933">Ye picture hai padhiye usme kya likha hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Read what is written there in the picture.)</span>		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Jo natural hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(That which is natural.)</span> Bhagavān is the Supreme. We are part and parcel. So I have already given you the example, these fingers, part and parcel of the body. The only desire should be how to serve the body. That is . . . (indistinct) . . . <span style="color:#ff9933">abhi kitna kaam karte hain, tel le aao, . . . pakad liya. Ye nahi bolta hum khayenge, khud liya, we eat. Humara stage jo hai aur khoob pakad-pakad ke bhagvan ko khilao. Abhi . . . ye iccha jab palat jayega hum nahi khayenge, bhagvan . . .</span> <span style="color:#128807">(. . . now how much he works, go and get oil, . . . caught it. He does not say I will eat it, takes it himself—we eat. Our stage is we forcibly make God eat. Now when this desire changes, then we will not eat, God . . .)</span> that desire is the . . . then where is that picture? The gopīs are pushing Rādhārāṇī to Kṛṣṇa? <span style="color:#ff9933">Ye picture hai padhiye usme kya likha hai.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Read what is written there in the picture.)</span>

	'''Indian man (1):''' Kṛṣṇa likes Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.		'''Indian man (1):''' Kṛṣṇa likes Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa.
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	'''Indian man:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo to mandir me cadava aa jata hai to usse kaam chala lo.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He maintains himself with the money which has been offered in the donation box.)</span>		'''Indian man:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Wo to mandir me cadava aa jata hai to usse kaam chala lo.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He maintains himself with the money which has been offered in the donation box.)</span>

	'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Usko kaam chalane ka . . . practical dekh lijiye. hamara sara duniya me 120 mandir hai. to kam-se-kam roz 10000 aadmi ko prasad milta hai, humko kuch . . . ~~Thank~~ you very much. Aap koi bhi mandir me jaiye, sab vilayat me jo mandir hai, vilayati jo sab jaate hain, sab bolte hain aisa puja-paath, aisa sundar mandir hum kahin nahi dekhe hain.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He has to maintain . . . see it practically. We have 120 temples throughout the world. So on a daily basis 10,000 people get ''prasadam'', we don't get anything . . . you go to the temple sometimes, the temples which are there in foreign countries—the foreigners visit the temples, everyone says that such worship and such beautiful temples we have not seen anywhere else. )</span>		'''Prabhupada:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Usko kaam chalane ka . . . practical dekh lijiye. hamara sara duniya me 120 mandir hai. to kam-se-kam roz 10000 aadmi ko prasad milta hai, humko kuch . . . thank you very much. Aap koi bhi mandir me jaiye, sab vilayat me jo mandir hai, vilayati jo sab jaate hain, sab bolte hain aisa puja-paath, aisa sundar mandir hum kahin nahi dekhe hain.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(He has to maintain . . . see it practically. We have 120 temples throughout the world. So on a daily basis 10,000 people get ''prasadam'', we don't get anything . . . you go to the temple sometimes, the temples which are there in foreign countries—the foreigners visit the temples, everyone says that such worship and such beautiful temples we have not seen anywhere else. )</span>


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	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Usme bahut se legal terms hain, wo to aap hi log se ho sakta hai translation. kaun mila, koi lawyer.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There are a lot of legal terms in that, only you people can do the translation. Who did you get as a lawyer?)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Usme bahut se legal terms hain, wo to aap hi log se ho sakta hai translation. kaun mila, koi lawyer.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(There are a lot of legal terms in that, only you people can do the translation. Who did you get as a lawyer?)</span>

	'''Indian man (1):''' We should appreciate the impartial judgement. He says that he passed his M.A . . . Hh passed his M.A.		'''Indian man (1):''' We should appreciate the impartial judgement. He says that he passed his M.A . . . he passed his M.A.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' (<span style="color:#ff9933">Ek roz me hi judgement de diya.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(They gave the judgment in only one day.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' (<span style="color:#ff9933">Ek roz me hi judgement de diya.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(They gave the judgment in only one day.)</span>

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