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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Fortunately we have no scarcity of money.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Fortunately we have no scarcity of money.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. Why? Kṛṣṇa has no scarcity of money. ''Aiśvaryasya samagrasya'' (''Viṣṇu Purāṇa'' 6.5.47). Why there is question of scarcity? Make scheme. You are all intelligent. So with how much foreign exchange you'll begin in Bangladesh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. Why? Kṛṣṇa has no scarcity of money. ''Aiśvaryasya samagrasya'' (Viṣṇu Purāṇa 6.5.47). Why there is question of scarcity? Make scheme. You are all intelligent. So with how much foreign exchange you'll begin in Bangladesh?

	'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Well, at the moment, Pañca-ratna Prabhu has gone to Bangladesh, and he's investigating in great detail the cost of printing. So when he gives his report, then we'll have a clear idea.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Well, at the moment, Pañca-ratna Prabhu has gone to Bangladesh, and he's investigating in great detail the cost of printing. So when he gives his report, then we'll have a clear idea.

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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He says that they can do it.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He says that they can do it.

	Gurukṛpa: They haven't done it yet.		'''Gurukṛpa:''' They haven't done it yet.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' "Among animals that evolved on this planet, man is the only animal that has progressed in all his activities. This he achieved through his knowledge in science. While all organisms continue to live even today as their forebears did millions of years ago, man alone has progressed . . ."		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' "Among animals that evolved on this planet, man is the only animal that has progressed in all his activities. This he achieved through his knowledge in science. While all organisms continue to live even today as their forebears did millions of years ago, man alone has progressed . . ."
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Come out very nice.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Come out very nice.

	Gurukṛpa: Yes. This is very nice. Big, too. Thick.		'''Gurukṛpa:''' Yes. This is very nice. Big, too. Thick.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He says: "We are always praying to Kṛṣṇa that He will give us the spiritual strength to help you in your mission of spreading Lord Caitanya's mercy. Now we are also constantly praying, 'Dear Lord Kṛṣṇa, if You desire, please cure Śrīla Prabhupāda.' Śrīla Prabhupāda, we are most grateful for Tamāla Kṛṣṇa's recent letter, in which he reports how much you enjoyed ''Back to Godhead'' issue number 7." This is number 8. "This is our only purpose in life, to give you some little amount of pleasure by our service. The devotees are also enjoying the magazine very much, especially your talks with Hayagrīva Prabhu on the bogus philosophers, and the 'Śrīla Prabhupāda Speaks Out' feature." The devotees like that too much, "Prabhupāda Speaks Out." "Please accept this Vyāsa-pūjā issue, ''Back to Godhead'' 12.8. We are offering to you this drop of gratitude for the ocean of love you are giving us. Please help us continue to work together in pushing on your great movement to benedict the world with Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Your insignificant servants . . ."		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He says: "We are always praying to Kṛṣṇa that He will give us the spiritual strength to help you in your mission of spreading Lord Caitanya's mercy. Now we are also constantly praying, 'Dear Lord Kṛṣṇa, if You desire, please cure Śrīla Prabhupāda.' Śrīla Prabhupāda, we are most grateful for Tamāla Kṛṣṇa's recent letter, in which he reports how much you enjoyed ''Back to Godhead'' issue number 7." This is number 8. "This is our only purpose in life, to give you some little amount of pleasure by our service. The devotees are also enjoying the magazine very much, especially your talks with Hayagrīva Prabhu on the bogus philosophers, and the 'Śrīla Prabhupāda Speaks Out' feature." The devotees like that too much, "Prabhupāda Speaks Out." "Please accept this Vyāsa-pūjā issue, ''Back to Godhead'' 12.8. We are offering to you this drop of gratitude for the ocean of love you are giving us. Please help us continue to work together in pushing on your great movement to benedict the world with Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Your insignificant servants . . ."

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	Prabhupāda: So Haṁsadūta will become famous now.		Prabhupāda: So Haṁsadūta will become famous now.

	Devotee: What's that?		'''Devotee:''' What's that?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Haṁsadūta will become famous now. All the people there will support Haṁsadūta. Naturally they won't support such a rascal. (pause) (indistinct whispering in background)		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Haṁsadūta will become famous now. All the people there will support Haṁsadūta. Naturally they won't support such a rascal. (pause) (indistinct whispering in background)

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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says, "Sri Lanka is definitely a first-class field for preaching, and we are being accepted by Sindhis, Gujaratis, Tamils and Sinhalese, Christians and Buddhists alike. All kinds of people are becoming attracted to the movement. It is very encouraging. Only the government policies are a nuisance. We now have twenty-five Life Members." Why can't he just go out and get a visa and go back in? Just like we go out and come right back, why can't he come to . . . get a visa and then go right back in?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He says, "Sri Lanka is definitely a first-class field for preaching, and we are being accepted by Sindhis, Gujaratis, Tamils and Sinhalese, Christians and Buddhists alike. All kinds of people are becoming attracted to the movement. It is very encouraging. Only the government policies are a nuisance. We now have twenty-five Life Members." Why can't he just go out and get a visa and go back in? Just like we go out and come right back, why can't he come to . . . get a visa and then go right back in?

	Gargamuni: He can do it in two days.		'''Gargamuni:''' He can do it in two days.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If he can do that, is that best?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If he can do that, is that best?

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. If required, we shall send.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. If required, we shall send.

	Prabhaviṣṇu: Yes, they want that. They want that. When they see foreigner, they just think how they can make some profit from them.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Yes, they want that. They want that. When they see foreigner, they just think how they can make some profit from them.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Foreign exchange.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Foreign exchange.

	Prabhaviṣṇu: Yes. Our lawyer told us that you can do anything in Bangladesh if you have money. You can accomplish anything.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Yes. Our lawyer told us that you can do anything in Bangladesh if you have money. You can accomplish anything.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' We don't have any shortage of money.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' We don't have any shortage of money.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' No. Why? Kṛṣṇa has no scarcity of money. ''Aiśvaryasya samagrasya'' (''Viṣṇu Purāṇa'' 6.5.47). Why there is question of scarcity? Make scheme. You are all intelligent. So with how much foreign exchange you'll begin in Bangladesh?		'''Prabhupāda:''' No. Why? Kṛṣṇa has no scarcity of money. ''Aiśvaryasya samagrasya'' (''Viṣṇu Purāṇa'' 6.5.47). Why there is question of scarcity? Make scheme. You are all intelligent. So with how much foreign exchange you'll begin in Bangladesh?

	Prabhaviṣṇu: Well, at the moment, Pañca-ratna Prabhu has gone to Bangladesh, and he's investigating in great detail the cost of printing. So when he gives his report, then we'll have a clear idea.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Well, at the moment, Pañca-ratna Prabhu has gone to Bangladesh, and he's investigating in great detail the cost of printing. So when he gives his report, then we'll have a clear idea.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' What my idea was, Śrīla Prabhupāda, was this—if he can print in Bangladesh, not only he can print for his own needs in Bangladesh, he can print for West Bengal. And Jayapatākā, instead of . . . we can pay him in foreign exchange from America, and Jayapatākā can pay the money for the books to the construction fund, which would have been coming from America anyway. In that way it will be very nice accounting.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' What my idea was, Śrīla Prabhupāda, was this—if he can print in Bangladesh, not only he can print for his own needs in Bangladesh, he can print for West Bengal. And Jayapatākā, instead of . . . we can pay him in foreign exchange from America, and Jayapatākā can pay the money for the books to the construction fund, which would have been coming from America anyway. In that way it will be very nice accounting.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' In Nepal is there a Lloyd's Bank?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' In Nepal is there a Lloyd's Bank?

	Prabhaviṣṇu: I don't know.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' I don't know.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Even if there's not Lloyd's Bank . . .		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Even if there's not Lloyd's Bank . . .
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Lloyd's Bank is English bank. Lloyd's Bank, Grindlays Bank.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Lloyd's Bank is English bank. Lloyd's Bank, Grindlays Bank.

	Prabhaviṣṇu: There is Grindlays Bank in Nepal.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' There is Grindlays Bank in Nepal.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah. Then it's all right.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Ah. Then it's all right.

	Prabhaviṣṇu: Actually, I think that in the case of Nepal, it's possible to change Nepal money back into Indian currency without much trouble.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Actually, I think that in the case of Nepal, it's possible to change Nepal money back into Indian currency without much trouble.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' So that's good. Then we can send as much money as you want. If that's a fact, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that they can change Nepalese money into Indian rupees without any loss, then we can send him whatever money he requires, because regularly we have to send so many thousands of dollars every month for construction to India. So if he can change money into rupees, then we can give him any amount of money—if necessary. (break)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' So that's good. Then we can send as much money as you want. If that's a fact, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that they can change Nepalese money into Indian rupees without any loss, then we can send him whatever money he requires, because regularly we have to send so many thousands of dollars every month for construction to India. So if he can change money into rupees, then we can give him any amount of money—if necessary. (break)

	Prabhaviṣṇu: Śrīla Prabhupāda, in Bangladesh the people would welcome us with ''kīrtana'' everywhere we went. They came into the streets and held ''kīrtana'', and then they offered garlands to the devotees.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda, in Bangladesh the people would welcome us with ''kīrtana'' everywhere we went. They came into the streets and held ''kīrtana'', and then they offered garlands to the devotees.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' And offer them ''prasādam'' without discrimination. Some Muslim also will be friend.		'''Prabhupāda:''' And offer them ''prasādam'' without discrimination. Some Muslim also will be friend.

	Prabhaviṣṇu: Actually, many of the upper-class Muslims who are more intellectually advanced, they were quite appreciative of our philosophy.		'''Prabhaviṣṇu:''' Actually, many of the upper-class Muslims who are more intellectually advanced, they were quite appreciative of our philosophy.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. We say: "Why you say Hindu? We are not Hindu, Muhammadan. We are for humanity." (break) . . . continue with this ''kavirāja'' or we shall change? If we have to change, whether that astrologer has got any information? (break) New York Ratha-yātrā, there was no coverage in the press?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes. We say: "Why you say Hindu? We are not Hindu, Muhammadan. We are for humanity." (break) . . . continue with this ''kavirāja'' or we shall change? If we have to change, whether that astrologer has got any information? (break) New York Ratha-yātrā, there was no coverage in the press?

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. (devotees offer obeisances) (break) . . . bad education. They have learned to. No education. (aside) Get this down here. I am seriously thinking how to do. Organized, a society for sinful activities, Western. Now you are advanced, sincerely carry on. At least in America.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Oh, yes. (devotees offer obeisances) (break) . . . bad education. They have learned to. No education. (aside) Get this down here. I am seriously thinking how to do. Organized, a society for sinful activities, Western. Now you are advanced, sincerely carry on. At least in America.

	Gurukṛpā: This restaurant is very good propaganda. They get a higher taste. I've seen on the airplane when I went last time. I had some cookies from the restaurant, so I gave them to the pilot, the stewardess, and said to give them to everyone. And they came and said, "Oh, we have been to your restaurant. We appreciate very much. It is very nice."		'''Gurukṛpā:''' This restaurant is very good propaganda. They get a higher taste. I've seen on the airplane when I went last time. I had some cookies from the restaurant, so I gave them to the pilot, the stewardess, and said to give them to everyone. And they came and said, "Oh, we have been to your restaurant. We appreciate very much. It is very nice."

	'''Prabhupāda:''' In this way we have to change their mentality.		'''Prabhupāda:''' In this way we have to change their mentality.

	Gurukṛpā: If they . . . we make aware of the actual suffering they are causing on the animals.		'''Gurukṛpā:''' If they . . . we make aware of the actual suffering they are causing on the animals.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Gurukṛpā:. If they are aware . . . they are not really aware of the actual suffering that they're causing the animals.		'''Gurukṛpā:'''. If they are aware . . . they are not really aware of the actual suffering that they're causing the animals.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They think the animals don't have any feelings or soul.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' They think the animals don't have any feelings or soul.
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	'''Prabhupāda:''' This is their life, "I believe." Whatever he believes, that's all right. This is going on.		'''Prabhupāda:''' This is their life, "I believe." Whatever he believes, that's all right. This is going on.

	Gurukṛpā: The difficulty is they have no intelligence to understand what they are doing. But if . . . by mass ''prasādam'' distribution they will get intelligence to see the serious sins they are doing.		'''Gurukṛpā:''' The difficulty is they have no intelligence to understand what they are doing. But if . . . by mass ''prasādam'' distribution they will get intelligence to see the serious sins they are doing.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Whole thing is "I believe," "Unless I believe . . ." Anyone can believe something. Is that knowledge?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Whole thing is "I believe," "Unless I believe . . ." Anyone can believe something. Is that knowledge?
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Would you like the fan on, Śrīla Prabhupāda?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Would you like the fan on, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

	Gurukṛpā: You mentioned in one of your books that everyone in this material world is considered mad, and a madman speaks all sorts of things. Whatever they speak is to be considered nonsense, because they're all mad.		'''Gurukṛpā:''' You mentioned in one of your books that everyone in this material world is considered mad, and a madman speaks all sorts of things. Whatever they speak is to be considered nonsense, because they're all mad.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Some nice mail today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break) (end)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Some nice mail today, Śrīla Prabhupāda. (break) (end)

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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Oh, yes. I would imagine that there was a good many thousand Indians at the festival. There must have been. We have quite a good relationship with the Indian community in New York. Ādi-keśa Mahārāja and others have developed it through the years now, in the last two years. (break)		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Oh, yes. I would imagine that there was a good many thousand Indians at the festival. There must have been. We have quite a good relationship with the Indian community in New York. Ādi-keśa Mahārāja and others have developed it through the years now, in the last two years. (break)

	Abhirāma: I just now returned from Delhi, Śrīla Prabhupāda.		'''Abhirāma:''' I just now returned from Delhi, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.		'''Prabhupāda:''' Yes.

	Abhirāma: So I went to see the astrologer with Yaśodānandana Swami, and he did more calculations on your chart . . . (indistinct)		'''Abhirāma:''' So I went to see the astrologer with Yaśodānandana Swami, and he did more calculations on your chart . . . (indistinct)

	'''Prabhupāda:''' You can get on light.		'''Prabhupāda:''' You can get on light.

	Abhirāma: So basically he explained when the difficult times will come, according to the planets. But then he made it very clear that beyond the planetary influence, it would be very difficult for calculations for a person in your position. For an ordinary man he can say very clearly. And he can say for you which planets will disturb, but he cannot say for sure how much they will affect, because being a saintly person, there is naturally some resistance to these influences. So he made that very clear, that you should not think that these are final. So he said, according to your birth, the longevity shows very clearly. And then he gave a date. The longevity is eighty-one years, five months and twenty-nine days, which means February 28, 1978, six months from today . . . from now. This is according to birth and stars arrangement. But on this point he made it very clear that this was from your birth, this was set, but it can change. Due to pious activities, due to the hand of Kṛṣṇa, this can change. So . . . and then he described that during the next six months, the first week of September, Saturn will pass over Ketu, and it will agitate the influence of Ketu even more. So the first week of September the resistance will go down, will become weaker. Then he mentioned that there may be some trouble from . . . maybe financial or maybe from juniors, from subordinates. Then if this period, if you can pass, through 1978, then there is four or five more years clear ahead, if you can pass through '78. This was what he said, that after '78 there would be four or five years which would be more or less clear of difficulties.		'''Abhirāma:''' So basically he explained when the difficult times will come, according to the planets. But then he made it very clear that beyond the planetary influence, it would be very difficult for calculations for a person in your position. For an ordinary man he can say very clearly. And he can say for you which planets will disturb, but he cannot say for sure how much they will affect, because being a saintly person, there is naturally some resistance to these influences. So he made that very clear, that you should not think that these are final. So he said, according to your birth, the longevity shows very clearly. And then he gave a date. The longevity is eighty-one years, five months and twenty-nine days, which means February 28, 1978, six months from today . . . from now. This is according to birth and stars arrangement. But on this point he made it very clear that this was from your birth, this was set, but it can change. Due to pious activities, due to the hand of Kṛṣṇa, this can change. So . . . and then he described that during the next six months, the first week of September, Saturn will pass over Ketu, and it will agitate the influence of Ketu even more. So the first week of September the resistance will go down, will become weaker. Then he mentioned that there may be some trouble from . . . maybe financial or maybe from juniors, from subordinates. Then if this period, if you can pass, through 1978, then there is four or five more years clear ahead, if you can pass through '78. This was what he said, that after '78 there would be four or five years which would be more or less clear of difficulties.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Hmm?

	Abhirāma: He said that if you can pass through 1978, then after that there will be four or five years of clear, without much difficulty. He said that you could go on easily for four or five years after that, if you can pass through 1978. And he said according to birth arrangement, the fatal date is February 28, 1978, in six months. At that time there's what's called a completion of a Ketu mahā-daśā, which began at your birth. But he stressed several times that we should not take these calculations to be final, on account of your position. He said these are for ordinary men. He said it is always the case that a man of spiritual advancement will have the ability to overcome his fate. He quoted the case of his father, who was in the Śrī Sampradāya, and he was apparently very pious and he lived so many years beyond his fatal date. And even so many astrologers had given the calculation, but still, he went on because of . . . he said that he would fast on ''ekādaśī'' and so many days and so much ''japa'', like that. So he said for a man of your position he could not even say for sure. He said that definitely the hand of Kṛṣṇa would be involved. So like this, he seemed to have a very sober idea. And he was hopeful that the blue sapphire would have some beneficial effect, at least to relieve you to some degree, and that he thought that by now you should have noticed a little bit at least. (break) . . . besides the gem, there is a good Āyurvedic physician. He can also relieve the effects. That they know the art if you can find the proper man. I inquired if there is a proper man in this district. He said he didn't know anyone in this area. He knows of a man in Delhi. I took his address, and I tried to contact him, but I have not yet contacted him. He was not available. However, we have contacted a man . . . we read the report to you the other night. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa read you when we were upstairs? He was suggesting the pearl and the oxidized gold and bark of Arjuna tree. That man is the chief physician of this big Āyurvedic hospital in Delhi. He's the chief resident physician there. He lives there at the hospital and he's in charge. He has expressed a serious interest in you, and he's a very, very pious man. He wants to come to visit Vṛndāvana. His wife is an Āyurvedic physician, he is the chief physician of the hospital, and there is another professor of Āyurveda. They all want to see if they can offer some suggestion. So on Sunday . . .		'''Abhirāma:''' He said that if you can pass through 1978, then after that there will be four or five years of clear, without much difficulty. He said that you could go on easily for four or five years after that, if you can pass through 1978. And he said according to birth arrangement, the fatal date is February 28, 1978, in six months. At that time there's what's called a completion of a Ketu mahā-daśā, which began at your birth. But he stressed several times that we should not take these calculations to be final, on account of your position. He said these are for ordinary men. He said it is always the case that a man of spiritual advancement will have the ability to overcome his fate. He quoted the case of his father, who was in the Śrī Sampradāya, and he was apparently very pious and he lived so many years beyond his fatal date. And even so many astrologers had given the calculation, but still, he went on because of . . . he said that he would fast on ''ekādaśī'' and so many days and so much ''japa'', like that. So he said for a man of your position he could not even say for sure. He said that definitely the hand of Kṛṣṇa would be involved. So like this, he seemed to have a very sober idea. And he was hopeful that the blue sapphire would have some beneficial effect, at least to relieve you to some degree, and that he thought that by now you should have noticed a little bit at least. (break) . . . besides the gem, there is a good Āyurvedic physician. He can also relieve the effects. That they know the art if you can find the proper man. I inquired if there is a proper man in this district. He said he didn't know anyone in this area. He knows of a man in Delhi. I took his address, and I tried to contact him, but I have not yet contacted him. He was not available. However, we have contacted a man . . . we read the report to you the other night. Tamāla Kṛṣṇa read you when we were upstairs? He was suggesting the pearl and the oxidized gold and bark of Arjuna tree. That man is the chief physician of this big Āyurvedic hospital in Delhi. He's the chief resident physician there. He lives there at the hospital and he's in charge. He has expressed a serious interest in you, and he's a very, very pious man. He wants to come to visit Vṛndāvana. His wife is an Āyurvedic physician, he is the chief physician of the hospital, and there is another professor of Āyurveda. They all want to see if they can offer some suggestion. So on Sunday . . .

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Why not bring them?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Why not bring them?

	Abhirāma: Yes. On Sunday we have arranged. They will come for a visit of Vṛndāvana, and they will come to see you, to see if they can relieve you some difficulty. As far as we could find in Delhi, these are the most reputed men, and they are actively practicing and teaching. They are recognized.		'''Abhirāma:''' Yes. On Sunday we have arranged. They will come for a visit of Vṛndāvana, and they will come to see you, to see if they can relieve you some difficulty. As far as we could find in Delhi, these are the most reputed men, and they are actively practicing and teaching. They are recognized.

	'''Prabhupāda:''' Make that arrangement. Yes. On Sunday?		'''Prabhupāda:''' Make that arrangement. Yes. On Sunday?

	Abhirāma: Yes, on Sunday, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Today is Thursday. So these were the major points, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that for six months there's trouble, especially in first week of September, and if you can pass through '78, then he sees four or five years ahead clear.		'''Abhirāma:''' Yes, on Sunday, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Today is Thursday. So these were the major points, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that for six months there's trouble, especially in first week of September, and if you can pass through '78, then he sees four or five years ahead clear.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' That means divine intervention, Śrīla Prabhupāda.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' That means divine intervention, Śrīla Prabhupāda.