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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yes. But that bus is no big . . . there's no benefit particularly of that Airbus. I mean, there's no real benefit. It's not any better than a 707 or 727. It's bigger inside, but the seats are not bigger. It doesn't really affect you. The seats are just as close together as on any other plane.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yes. But that bus is no big . . . there's no benefit particularly of that Airbus. I mean, there's no real benefit. It's not any better than a 707 or 727. It's bigger inside, but the seats are not bigger. It doesn't really affect you. The seats are just as close together as on any other plane.

	'''Bhakti-caru:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda? Miśri-jala. <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ar ektu nin Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please drink a little more Śrīla Prabhupāda.)</span>		'''Bhakti-caru:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda? Miśri-jala. <span style="color:#ec710e">Ar ektu nin Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please drink a little more Śrīla Prabhupāda.)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Prabhupāda is saying something, Bhakti-caru.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Prabhupāda is saying something, Bhakti-caru.

	'''Bhakti-caru:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Ha Śrīla Prabhupāda?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda?)</span>		'''Bhakti-caru:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Ha Śrīla Prabhupāda?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda?)</span>

	'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>		'''Prabhupāda:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>

	'''Bhakti-caru:''' <span style="color:#~~ff9933~~">Accha. Ha. Ha kheyechen Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Okay. Yes. Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda, you drank half a glass.)</span>		'''Bhakti-caru:''' <span style="color:#ec710e">Accha. Ha. Ha kheyechen Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Okay. Yes. Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda, you drank half a glass.)</span>

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Train or plane. But first of all we should agree on the idea, though. I mean, I think the point of that there's no real advantage to waiting here . . . our feeling is that there's more advantage to being in Māyāpur at this time. We can certainly go by plane. I think we can arrange some small wheelchair that will go up to the seat. It's possible to arrange.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Train or plane. But first of all we should agree on the idea, though. I mean, I think the point of that there's no real advantage to waiting here . . . our feeling is that there's more advantage to being in Māyāpur at this time. We can certainly go by plane. I think we can arrange some small wheelchair that will go up to the seat. It's possible to arrange.

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	'''Prabhupāda:''' The man must be sincere and experienced.		'''Prabhupāda:''' The man must be sincere and experienced.

	'''Bhavānanda:''' ''Jaya'' Śrīla Prabhupāda. (whispering:) Tell Prabhupāda about that ''kavirāja''.		'''Bhavānanda:''' ''Jaya'' Śrīla Prabhupāda. (whispering) Tell Prabhupāda about that ''kavirāja''.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Then, after that, he'll come directly to Māyāpur. The whole thing—how long will it take? About two days to get there? A day or two . . . maybe within a week's time he'll be in Māyāpur, Śrīla Prabhupāda, if they make it quickly.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Then, after that, he'll come directly to Māyāpur. The whole thing—how long will it take? About two days to get there? A day or two . . . maybe within a week's time he'll be in Māyāpur, Śrīla Prabhupāda, if they make it quickly.

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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' What, Śrīla Prabhupāda?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' What, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

	Hari-śauri: By plane or train?		'''Hari-śauri:''' By plane or train?

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' By plane or train? Well, I think that . . . I think train is better.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' By plane or train? Well, I think that . . . I think train is better.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Airbus.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Airbus.

	Hari-śauri: I think the Airbus has been taken out of commission.		'''Hari-śauri:''' I think the Airbus has been taken out of commission.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Well, even if it hasn't, it's a useless plane, because the seats on the Airbus are as small as any seats anywhere else. There's no advantage to them.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Well, even if it hasn't, it's a useless plane, because the seats on the Airbus are as small as any seats anywhere else. There's no advantage to them.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Why it stopped?		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Why it stopped?

	Hari-śauri: Because they couldn't get enough passengers to make it economical.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Because they couldn't get enough passengers to make it economical.

	Prabhupāda: Eh?		Prabhupāda: Eh?

	Hari-śauri: The Airbus was stopped because they couldn't get enough passengers to make it economical. So they took them out of service.		'''Hari-śauri:''' The Airbus was stopped because they couldn't get enough passengers to make it economical. So they took them out of service.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I mean there are other points also. Whether they'll have a wheelchair that can be wheeled through an aisle in an airplane? See, on the train we can carry you quite easily. Plane traveling just becomes a very . . . it's a sophisticated situation. And I don't want to take you in a stretcher in a plane. I don't like that idea. I don't think it's nice in any way, you know. It's all right if we take you in a wheelchair, and then you can sit down and lay down in the seat. That's no problem. But how to get through the aisle? You remember when we went to London you had to walk. They say they have . . . foreign airlines say . . . I remember they used to say they had some wheelchairs.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' I mean there are other points also. Whether they'll have a wheelchair that can be wheeled through an aisle in an airplane? See, on the train we can carry you quite easily. Plane traveling just becomes a very . . . it's a sophisticated situation. And I don't want to take you in a stretcher in a plane. I don't like that idea. I don't think it's nice in any way, you know. It's all right if we take you in a wheelchair, and then you can sit down and lay down in the seat. That's no problem. But how to get through the aisle? You remember when we went to London you had to walk. They say they have . . . foreign airlines say . . . I remember they used to say they had some wheelchairs.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yeah, they do. They take the seats out and put your stretcher on. But we don't want that. There's no question of that.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yeah, they do. They take the seats out and put your stretcher on. But we don't want that. There's no question of that.

	Hari-śauri: It's horrible.		'''Hari-śauri:''' It's horrible.

	Prabhupāda: It goes direct?		Prabhupāda: It goes direct?
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Oh, yeah. And they walk right by you, and their feet are right next to your head.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Oh, yeah. And they walk right by you, and their feet are right next to your head.

	Hari-śauri: It's not very nice at all.		'''Hari-śauri:''' It's not very nice at all.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' It's most dishonorable and disrespectful. You feel . . . you feel every bit of being a patient.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' It's most dishonorable and disrespectful. You feel . . . you feel every bit of being a patient.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' No, Prabhupāda doesn't want. (talking in background amongst devotees) I already suggested that in London to Prabhupāda, and he wouldn't do it. I mean, it's very difficult to arrange these things in India, private plane, you know, without a lot of advance, like twenty thousand, thirty thousand rupees.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' No, Prabhupāda doesn't want. (talking in background amongst devotees) I already suggested that in London to Prabhupāda, and he wouldn't do it. I mean, it's very difficult to arrange these things in India, private plane, you know, without a lot of advance, like twenty thousand, thirty thousand rupees.

	Hari-śauri: Private plane? Yes, and then it would have to be a propeller plane, too. They're hellish. Phew! We traveled on those to Chandigarh.		'''Hari-śauri:''' Private plane? Yes, and then it would have to be a propeller plane, too. They're hellish. Phew! We traveled on those to Chandigarh.

	Prabhupāda: Hmm?		Prabhupāda: Hmm?
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' All GBC left? Some of them are here. Haṁsadūta is here, Hari-śauri, Svarūpa Dāmodara.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' All GBC left? Some of them are here. Haṁsadūta is here, Hari-śauri, Svarūpa Dāmodara.

	Hari-śauri: Pañca-draviḍa?		'''Hari-śauri:''' Pañca-draviḍa?

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Pañca-draviḍa Swami.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Pañca-draviḍa Swami.

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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean there are other points also. Whether they'll have a wheelchair that can be wheeled through an aisle in an airplane? See, on the train we can carry you quite easily. Plane traveling just becomes a very . . . it's a sophisticated situation. And I don't want to take you in a stretcher in a plane. I don't like that idea. I don't think it's nice in any way, you know. It's all right if we take you in a wheelchair, and then you can sit down and lay down in the seat. That's no problem. But how to get through the aisle? You remember when we went to London you had to walk. They say they have . . . foreign airlines say . . . I remember they used to say they had some wheelchairs.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I mean there are other points also. Whether they'll have a wheelchair that can be wheeled through an aisle in an airplane? See, on the train we can carry you quite easily. Plane traveling just becomes a very . . . it's a sophisticated situation. And I don't want to take you in a stretcher in a plane. I don't like that idea. I don't think it's nice in any way, you know. It's all right if we take you in a wheelchair, and then you can sit down and lay down in the seat. That's no problem. But how to get through the aisle? You remember when we went to London you had to walk. They say they have . . . foreign airlines say . . . I remember they used to say they had some wheelchairs.

	Upendra: It's not exactly a wheelchair. It's a little tiny seat that they strap down.		'''Upendra:''' It's not exactly a wheelchair. It's a little tiny seat that they strap down.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. Who knows that they'll have it? What's the guarantee? He can't walk. You want to go by plane? Because it's two hours? That's a big advantage. (Prabhupāda coughing) Do you want a little ''miśri-jala'', Śrīla Prabhupāda?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah. Who knows that they'll have it? What's the guarantee? He can't walk. You want to go by plane? Because it's two hours? That's a big advantage. (Prabhupāda coughing) Do you want a little ''miśri-jala'', Śrīla Prabhupāda?
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	Prabhupāda: Light?		Prabhupāda: Light?

	Upendra: Light. (break)		'''Upendra:''' Light. (break)

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ". . . miserable condition. Without your mercy there is no possibility of escaping the degrading influence of this Kali-yuga. Most merciful lord and master of the devotees, we have no shelter other than your lotus feet. By Kṛṣṇa's grace the most wonderful Janmāṣṭamī celebration was held at the Cato Ridge Farm ''āśrama'' in South Africa. The celebration included the opening of a new temple and ''prasādam'' facility." He sent a lot of pictures, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Amazing pictures.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ". . . miserable condition. Without your mercy there is no possibility of escaping the degrading influence of this Kali-yuga. Most merciful lord and master of the devotees, we have no shelter other than your lotus feet. By Kṛṣṇa's grace the most wonderful Janmāṣṭamī celebration was held at the Cato Ridge Farm ''āśrama'' in South Africa. The celebration included the opening of a new temple and ''prasādam'' facility." He sent a lot of pictures, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Amazing pictures.

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	Prabhupāda: (laughs) Just see. Kṛṣṇa arranges. Just see.		Prabhupāda: (laughs) Just see. Kṛṣṇa arranges. Just see.

	Trivikrama: Kṛṣṇa's so kind.		'''Trivikrama:''' Kṛṣṇa's so kind.

	Prabhupāda: Very good. No, I saw somebody, Rāmānuja, he is preparing for me. (very emotional voice) This is all Kṛṣṇa's plan. It is being prepared in Delhi, and He is giving information and doing. So very good news.		Prabhupāda: Very good. No, I saw somebody, Rāmānuja, he is preparing for me. (very emotional voice) This is all Kṛṣṇa's plan. It is being prepared in Delhi, and He is giving information and doing. So very good news.
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	Prabhupāda: No, Kṛṣṇa, God, He gave me information.		Prabhupāda: No, Kṛṣṇa, God, He gave me information.

	Trivikrama: Just like Sañjaya.		'''Trivikrama:''' Just like Sañjaya.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: These activities are all as wonderful, Śrīla Prabhupāda, as the books you have written. We are seeing that you are one of those personalities, as great as the personalities that you've written about.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: These activities are all as wonderful, Śrīla Prabhupāda, as the books you have written. We are seeing that you are one of those personalities, as great as the personalities that you've written about.

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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' That can be done. We can try to get the front row.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' That can be done. We can try to get the front row.

	Haṁsadūta: Whatever they do when they have to transport someone in emergency . . . they must have an arrangement.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Whatever they do when they have to transport someone in emergency . . . they must have an arrangement.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yeah, they do. They take the seats out and put your stretcher on. But we don't want that. There's no question of that.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Yeah, they do. They take the seats out and put your stretcher on. But we don't want that. There's no question of that.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' There's no doubt about that. It's so much easier and so much quicker.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' There's no doubt about that. It's so much easier and so much quicker.

	Haṁsadūta: You should ask Prabhupāda about the stretcher. It may be necessary.		'''Haṁsadūta:''' You should ask Prabhupāda about the stretcher. It may be necessary.

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He knows that it can be done. I've seen people laying out in stretchers. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. People come by, and you're laying right on the ground.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' He knows that it can be done. I've seen people laying out in stretchers. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. People come by, and you're laying right on the ground.

	Haṁsadūta: Oh, on the ground?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Oh, on the ground?

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Oh, yeah. And they walk right by you, and their feet are right next to your head.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' Oh, yeah. And they walk right by you, and their feet are right next to your head.
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	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' It's most dishonorable and disrespectful. You feel . . . you feel every bit of being a patient.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' It's most dishonorable and disrespectful. You feel . . . you feel every bit of being a patient.

	Haṁsadūta: Don't they have private planes?		'''Haṁsadūta:''' Don't they have private planes?

	'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' No, Prabhupāda doesn't want. (talking in background amongst devotees) I already suggested that in London to Prabhupāda, and he wouldn't do it. I mean, it's very difficult to arrange these things in India, private plane, you know, without a lot of advance, like twenty thousand, thirty thousand rupees.		'''Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:''' No, Prabhupāda doesn't want. (talking in background amongst devotees) I already suggested that in London to Prabhupāda, and he wouldn't do it. I mean, it's very difficult to arrange these things in India, private plane, you know, without a lot of advance, like twenty thousand, thirty thousand rupees.

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	Our opinion was that so far as your health or strength goes, it's not going to increase significantly in one or two weeks. Even when you take this ''makara-dhvaja'', it will take time to gradually get back your strength. So waiting is not so much for the purpose of gaining back strength. And the weather is . . . the climate is working against us, because it's getting colder if we wait. One of the main reasons to go that Your Divine Grace had was to get into a nice climate, fresh air, open-air atmosphere. So our feeling is that as far as a kavirāja goes, now we must find a Rāmānuja kavirāja. Now, if we cannot find one in Calcutta, then our feeling is let us find one somewhere else and bring him to Māyāpur. In other words, it doesn't have to be that he's living in Calcutta. Kavirājas are all over India. There is one . . . who is that person, Bhavānanda?		Our opinion was that so far as your health or strength goes, it's not going to increase significantly in one or two weeks. Even when you take this ''makara-dhvaja'', it will take time to gradually get back your strength. So waiting is not so much for the purpose of gaining back strength. And the weather is . . . the climate is working against us, because it's getting colder if we wait. One of the main reasons to go that Your Divine Grace had was to get into a nice climate, fresh air, open-air atmosphere. So our feeling is that as far as a kavirāja goes, now we must find a Rāmānuja kavirāja. Now, if we cannot find one in Calcutta, then our feeling is let us find one somewhere else and bring him to Māyāpur. In other words, it doesn't have to be that he's living in Calcutta. Kavirājas are all over India. There is one . . . who is that person, Bhavānanda?

	Bhavānanda: The head ''pūjārī'' at Śrī Raṅgam temple in South India. He is coming in the family of Gopāla Bhaṭṭa Gosvāmī. He is very friendly with our Society, and Acyutānanda and Yaśodānandana Swamis, they stayed with him at his house . . .		'''Bhavānanda:''' The head ''pūjārī'' at Śrī Raṅgam temple in South India. He is coming in the family of Gopāla Bhaṭṭa Gosvāmī. He is very friendly with our Society, and Acyutānanda and Yaśodānandana Swamis, they stayed with him at his house . . .

	Prabhupāda: Hmm!		Prabhupāda: Hmm!

	Bhavānanda: . . . in Śrī Raṅganātha temple. For five days he was their host.		'''Bhavānanda:''' . . . in Śrī Raṅganātha temple. For five days he was their host.

	Prabhupāda: Where? Śrī Raṅgam.		Prabhupāda: Where? Śrī Raṅgam.
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but then again the plane flight, you know, whether you'll be able to be comfortable. Two hours of discomfort may be worse than seventeen hours of semi-comfort. That has to be considered. Train means you lay down, you know, and you'll have a big compartment. Plane . . . look how difficult it is for you to sit up for even a half hour. I have not hardly seen you sit up for a half hour. I mean these airlines, Indian Airlines planes, for all you know, the seat thing won't go up, the handle? Hmm?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, but then again the plane flight, you know, whether you'll be able to be comfortable. Two hours of discomfort may be worse than seventeen hours of semi-comfort. That has to be considered. Train means you lay down, you know, and you'll have a big compartment. Plane . . . look how difficult it is for you to sit up for even a half hour. I have not hardly seen you sit up for a half hour. I mean these airlines, Indian Airlines planes, for all you know, the seat thing won't go up, the handle? Hmm?

	Bhavānanda: No, they go up. They don't always, though.		'''Bhavānanda:''' No, they go up. They don't always, though.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: On which flights?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: On which flights?
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Train or plane. But first of all we should agree on the idea, though. I mean, I think the point of that there's no real advantage to waiting here . . . our feeling is that there's more advantage to being in Māyāpur at this time. We can certainly go by plane. I think we can arrange some small wheelchair that will go up to the seat. It's possible to arrange.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Train or plane. But first of all we should agree on the idea, though. I mean, I think the point of that there's no real advantage to waiting here . . . our feeling is that there's more advantage to being in Māyāpur at this time. We can certainly go by plane. I think we can arrange some small wheelchair that will go up to the seat. It's possible to arrange.

	Bhavānanda: Seat right at the door.		'''Bhavānanda:''' Seat right at the door.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What we'll do is we'll purchase two extra seats so that Prabhupāda can have three seats.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What we'll do is we'll purchase two extra seats so that Prabhupāda can have three seats.

	Bhavānanda: And right by the door so they can just bring it in the door and . . . take the seats right on the door.		'''Bhavānanda:''' And right by the door so they can just bring it in the door and . . . take the seats right on the door.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That can be done. We can try to get the front row.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That can be done. We can try to get the front row.
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This country you can't do these things like that. So . . .		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: This country you can't do these things like that. So . . .

	Bhavānanda: Then directly from Dum Dum to Māyāpur?		'''Bhavānanda:''' Then directly from Dum Dum to Māyāpur?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Then we go direct from Dum Dum to Māyāpur. We don't even have to go into Calcutta. Is that all right? So do you agree, Śrīla Prabhupāda, with the idea then, that the sooner we transfer there, the better, to Māyāpur? As far as the kavirāja goes, let us see if we get a local man from Calcutta, failing which, Smara-hari plus one other devotee will go to Śrī Raṅgam, and from a very reliable kavirāja, in their presence, they will have it made. Smara-hari, you see, is from Gurukṛpā and Yaśodānandana's party, so he has got experience sitting and watching people making the silver onto the throne. He knows how to sit and watch not to get cheated.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Then we go direct from Dum Dum to Māyāpur. We don't even have to go into Calcutta. Is that all right? So do you agree, Śrīla Prabhupāda, with the idea then, that the sooner we transfer there, the better, to Māyāpur? As far as the kavirāja goes, let us see if we get a local man from Calcutta, failing which, Smara-hari plus one other devotee will go to Śrī Raṅgam, and from a very reliable kavirāja, in their presence, they will have it made. Smara-hari, you see, is from Gurukṛpā and Yaśodānandana's party, so he has got experience sitting and watching people making the silver onto the throne. He knows how to sit and watch not to get cheated.
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	Prabhupāda: The man must be sincere and experienced.		Prabhupāda: The man must be sincere and experienced.

	Bhavānanda: ''Jaya'' Śrīla Prabhupāda. (whispering:) Tell Prabhupāda about that ''kavirāja''.		'''Bhavānanda:''' ''Jaya'' Śrīla Prabhupāda. (whispering:) Tell Prabhupāda about that ''kavirāja''.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then, after that, he'll come directly to Māyāpur. The whole thing—how long will it take? About two days to get there? A day or two . . . maybe within a week's time he'll be in Māyāpur, Śrīla Prabhupāda, if they make it quickly.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then, after that, he'll come directly to Māyāpur. The whole thing—how long will it take? About two days to get there? A day or two . . . maybe within a week's time he'll be in Māyāpur, Śrīla Prabhupāda, if they make it quickly.
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (aside) Paper . . . my pad is in . . . that man said it would take time. A week. Of course, we don't know if that's a fact or not. But it'll take about a week's time if it only takes a day or two. If it takes a week, then it may take a total of two weeks' time until he reaches Māyāpur. When Gopāla and Śatadhanya were in Delhi, they went to see one man who was a very important Marwari kavirāja. They asked him about the ingredients of ''makara-dhvaja''.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: (aside) Paper . . . my pad is in . . . that man said it would take time. A week. Of course, we don't know if that's a fact or not. But it'll take about a week's time if it only takes a day or two. If it takes a week, then it may take a total of two weeks' time until he reaches Māyāpur. When Gopāla and Śatadhanya were in Delhi, they went to see one man who was a very important Marwari kavirāja. They asked him about the ingredients of ''makara-dhvaja''.

	Bhavānanda: They asked that question about what medicine the poor man would take.		'''Bhavānanda:''' They asked that question about what medicine the poor man would take.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What medicine the poor man would take. So he said: "Poor man or rich man, it doesn't matter. The price of it is about forty-eight rupees per tolā, because the gold that is given, it's given back at the end." It's just passed through, the gold. It's not utilized itself. So forty-eight rupees a tolā. This is what he said, very big Marwari kavirāja.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What medicine the poor man would take. So he said: "Poor man or rich man, it doesn't matter. The price of it is about forty-eight rupees per tolā, because the gold that is given, it's given back at the end." It's just passed through, the gold. It's not utilized itself. So forty-eight rupees a tolā. This is what he said, very big Marwari kavirāja.
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There aren't, except in our temples. He says: "By Kṛṣṇa's grace the most wonderful Janmāṣṭamī celebration was held at the big farm āśrama in South Africa. The celebration included the opening of a new temple and ''prasādam'' facility, two new Life Membership cottages and three overnight guest rooms, initiation of four new devotees and two ''brāhmaṇa'' initiations, a play, a massive ''prasādam'' distribution, ''go-pūjā'', a transcendental treasure hunt for the children, ecstatic chanting by all, and distribution of books, records and posters and tapes. We enclose pictures of the various events, as well as newspaper articles. The newspapers were all one-hundred-percent favorable, and one even had a four-page article on ISKCON. The Gujarati ladies from Durban and Pietermaritzburg all came early to help cook ''purīs'' and ''halavā''. They cooked about one quarter ton of ''halavā'' (Prabhupāda chuckles) and over eight thousand ''purīs'', all of which were distributed. At least fifteen thousand people attended the two-day festival, and all of the most important big Indian businessmen and millionaires attended. Two days before the event, a large marquee, able to hold twenty-five hundred people, was erected, and the initiations and the play were held inside. The play especially was most successful, as the top Indian stage and lighting men in South Africa were giving us technical assistance. It was so nice that even some of the ladies were in tears during the performance. The ''go-pūjā'' was also a massively popular event, as none of the local people had ever seen such a thing before. In fact, many people came up to the devotees and were saying things like 'I left India thirty years ago, and I never saw anything like this before.' So far, the Indian community . . ." (break)		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There aren't, except in our temples. He says: "By Kṛṣṇa's grace the most wonderful Janmāṣṭamī celebration was held at the big farm āśrama in South Africa. The celebration included the opening of a new temple and ''prasādam'' facility, two new Life Membership cottages and three overnight guest rooms, initiation of four new devotees and two ''brāhmaṇa'' initiations, a play, a massive ''prasādam'' distribution, ''go-pūjā'', a transcendental treasure hunt for the children, ecstatic chanting by all, and distribution of books, records and posters and tapes. We enclose pictures of the various events, as well as newspaper articles. The newspapers were all one-hundred-percent favorable, and one even had a four-page article on ISKCON. The Gujarati ladies from Durban and Pietermaritzburg all came early to help cook ''purīs'' and ''halavā''. They cooked about one quarter ton of ''halavā'' (Prabhupāda chuckles) and over eight thousand ''purīs'', all of which were distributed. At least fifteen thousand people attended the two-day festival, and all of the most important big Indian businessmen and millionaires attended. Two days before the event, a large marquee, able to hold twenty-five hundred people, was erected, and the initiations and the play were held inside. The play especially was most successful, as the top Indian stage and lighting men in South Africa were giving us technical assistance. It was so nice that even some of the ladies were in tears during the performance. The ''go-pūjā'' was also a massively popular event, as none of the local people had ever seen such a thing before. In fact, many people came up to the devotees and were saying things like 'I left India thirty years ago, and I never saw anything like this before.' So far, the Indian community . . ." (break)

	Bhavānanda: And the other one is that Ādi-keśava Mahārāja, he has a friend in Delhi named Chandi Das He's a big yogī, I think?		'''Bhavānanda:''' And the other one is that Ādi-keśava Mahārāja, he has a friend in Delhi named Chandi Das He's a big yogī, I think?

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, he's from America.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Well, he's from America.

	Bhavānanda: He has quite a bit of money. And so Ādi-keśava called him up, and he had a kavirāja in the Rāmānuja-sampradāya. And Chandi Das went to see his ''kavirāja'', and his ''kavirāja'' had just gotten finished mixing ''makara-dhvaja'' medicine. He'd been preparing it for the past ten days. And Śatadhanya Mahārāja and Ādi-keśava were just now going over to see this ''kavirāja''. That Chandi Das has purchased seven ''tolās'' of the medicine for Your Divine Grace as a gift. They are going over to pick it up.		'''Bhavānanda:''' He has quite a bit of money. And so Ādi-keśava called him up, and he had a kavirāja in the Rāmānuja-sampradāya. And Chandi Das went to see his ''kavirāja'', and his ''kavirāja'' had just gotten finished mixing ''makara-dhvaja'' medicine. He'd been preparing it for the past ten days. And Śatadhanya Mahārāja and Ādi-keśava were just now going over to see this ''kavirāja''. That Chandi Das has purchased seven ''tolās'' of the medicine for Your Divine Grace as a gift. They are going over to pick it up.

	Prabhupāda: (laughs) Just see. Kṛṣṇa arranges. Just see.		Prabhupāda: (laughs) Just see. Kṛṣṇa arranges. Just see.
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	Prabhupāda: No. I have got it already.		Prabhupāda: No. I have got it already.

	Bhavānanda: And that ''kavirāja'' in Delhi said that no, the gold is absorbed in the medicine.		'''Bhavānanda:''' And that ''kavirāja'' in Delhi said that no, the gold is absorbed in the medicine.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ''Phew!'' This is a . . . these events are all like a dramatical play, Śrīla Prabhupāda, great drama. It's simply like reading the ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta''.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: ''Phew!'' This is a . . . these events are all like a dramatical play, Śrīla Prabhupāda, great drama. It's simply like reading the ''Caitanya-caritāmṛta''.
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have to take detail of the dosage and everything about it.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We have to take detail of the dosage and everything about it.

	Bhavānanda: Yes. They're going to get all of that tonight. (break)		'''Bhavānanda:''' Yes. They're going to get all of that tonight. (break)

	Prabhupāda: Then hold some festival in Delhi. Invite all the men who . . .		Prabhupāda: Then hold some festival in Delhi. Invite all the men who . . .

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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: On which flights?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: On which flights?

	Bhakti-caru: The 747.		'''Bhakti-caru:''' The 747.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. There are no 747s.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No. There are no 747s.

	Bhakti-caru: No, no, 727. I'm sorry, 707, not 727. Airbus has stopped now. Instead of that, they are starting 707.		'''Bhakti-caru:''' No, no, 727. I'm sorry, 707, not 727. Airbus has stopped now. Instead of that, they are starting 707.

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Why it stopped?		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Why it stopped?
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. But that bus is no big . . . there's no benefit particularly of that Airbus. I mean, there's no real benefit. It's not any better than a 707 or 727. It's bigger inside, but the seats are not bigger. It doesn't really affect you. The seats are just as close together as on any other plane.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. But that bus is no big . . . there's no benefit particularly of that Airbus. I mean, there's no real benefit. It's not any better than a 707 or 727. It's bigger inside, but the seats are not bigger. It doesn't really affect you. The seats are just as close together as on any other plane.

	Bhakti-caru: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Miśri-jala. <span style="color:#ff9933">Ar ektu nin Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please drink a little more Śrīla Prabhupāda.)</span>		'''Bhakti-caru:''' Śrīla Prabhupāda? Miśri-jala. <span style="color:#ff9933">Ar ektu nin Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Please drink a little more Śrīla Prabhupāda.)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>
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	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda is saying something, Bhakti-caru.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Prabhupāda is saying something, Bhakti-caru.

	Bhakti-caru: <span style="color:#ff9933">Ha Śrīla Prabhupāda?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda?)</span>		'''Bhakti-caru:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Ha Śrīla Prabhupāda?</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda?)</span>

	Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>		Prabhupāda: <span style="color:#ff9933">Adha glass to kheyechi.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(I have taken half a glass.)</span>

	Bhakti-caru: <span style="color:#ff9933">Accha. Ha. Ha kheyechen Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Okay. Yes. Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda, you drank half a glass.)</span>		'''Bhakti-caru:''' <span style="color:#ff9933">Accha. Ha. Ha kheyechen Śrīla Prabhupāda.</span> <span style="color:#128807">(Okay. Yes. Yes Śrīla Prabhupāda, you drank half a glass.)</span>

	Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Train or plane. But first of all we should agree on the idea, though. I mean, I think the point of that there's no real advantage to waiting here . . . our feeling is that there's more advantage to being in Māyāpur at this time. We can certainly go by plane. I think we can arrange some small wheelchair that will go up to the seat. It's possible to arrange.		Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Train or plane. But first of all we should agree on the idea, though. I mean, I think the point of that there's no real advantage to waiting here . . . our feeling is that there's more advantage to being in Māyāpur at this time. We can certainly go by plane. I think we can arrange some small wheelchair that will go up to the seat. It's possible to arrange.
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	Prabhupāda: When?		Prabhupāda: When?

	Bhakti-caru: When we first planned that we'll go by train, then she wanted to come in the same train actually. But now I think that many of our devotees will be going by train, so she can go with them on the train.		'''Bhakti-caru:''' When we first planned that we'll go by train, then she wanted to come in the same train actually. But now I think that many of our devotees will be going by train, so she can go with them on the train.

	Prabhupāda: That's all right. She will inform.		Prabhupāda: That's all right. She will inform.