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His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

TEXT 246

'kīrti-gaṇa-madhye jīvera kon baḍa kīrti?'

'kṛṣṇa-bhakta baliyā yāṅhāra haya khyāti'

SYNONYMS

kīrti-gaṇa-madhye—among glorious activities; jīvera—of the living entity; kon—which; baḍa—greatest; kīrti—glory; kṛṣṇa-bhakta—a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa; baliyā—as; yāṅhāra—of whom; haya—there is; khyāti—the reputation.

TRANSLATION

Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu then asked Rāmānanda Rāya, "Out of all glorious activities, which is the most glorious?" Rāmānanda Rāya replied, "That person who is reputed to be a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa enjoys the utmost fame and glory."

PURPORT

The greatest reputation a living being can have is to be a devotee of Kṛṣṇa and to act in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In the material world everyone is trying to be famous by accumulating a large bank balance or material opulence. There is a steady competition among karmīs attempting to advance in a wealthy society. The whole world is turning in accordance with that competitive mood. But this kind of name and fame is temporary, for it lasts only as long as the temporary material body exists. One may become famous as a brahma-jñānī, an impersonalist scholar, or one may become a materially opulent person. In either case, such reputations are inferior to the reputation of Kṛṣṇa's devotee. In the Garuḍa Purāṇa it is said:

kalau bhāgavataṁ nāma

durlabhaṁ naiva labhyate

brahma-rudra-padotkṛṣṭaṁ

guruṇā kathitaṁ mama

"In this Age of Kali, the fame of one who is known as a great devotee is very rare. However, such a position is superior to that of the great demigods like Brahmā and Mahādeva. This is the opinion of all spiritual masters."

In the Itihāsa-samuccaya, Nārada tells Puṇḍarīka: janmāntara-sahasreṣu

yasya syād buddhir īdṛśī

dāso 'haṁ vāsudevasya

sarvāḹ lokān samuddharet

"After many, many births, when a person realizes that he is the eternal servant of Vāsudeva, he can deliver all the worlds."

In the Ādi Purāṇa, in a conversation between Kṛṣṇa and Arjuna, it is said, bhaktānām anugacchanti muktayaḥ śrutibhiḥ saha: "The most exalted position of liberation is given by Vedic knowledge. Everyone follows in the footsteps of the devotee."

Similarly, in the Bṛhan-nāradīya Purāṇa, it is further stated, adyāpi ca muni-śreṣṭhā brahmādyā api devatāḥ: "Until now, even the great demigods like Brahmā and Lord Śiva did not know the influence of a devotee."

The Garuḍa Purāṇa similarly states:

brāhmaṇānāṁ sahasrebhyaḥ

satra-yājī viśiṣyate

satra-yāji-sahasrebhyaḥ

sarva-vedānta-pāragaḥ

sarva-vedānta-vit-koṭyā

viṣṇu-bhakto viśiṣyate

vaiṣṇavānāṁ sahasrebhya

ekānty eko viśiṣyate

"It is said that out of thousands of brāhmaṇas, one is qualified to perform sacrifices, and out of many thousands of such qualified brāhmaṇas expert in sacrificial offerings, one learned brāhmaṇa may have passed beyond all Vedic knowledge. He is considered the best among all these brāhmaṇas. And yet, out of thousands of such brāhmaṇas who have surpassed Vedic knowledge, one person may be a viṣṇu-bhakta, and he is most famous. Out of many thousands of such Vaiṣṇavas, one who is completely fixed in the service of Lord Kṛṣṇa is most famous. Indeed, a person who is completely devoted to the service of the Lord certainly returns home, back to Godhead."

There is also the following statement in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (3.13.4):

śrutasya puṁsāṁ sucira-śramasya

nanv añjasā sūribhir īḍito 'rthaḥ

tat-tad-guṇānuśravaṇaṁ mukunda-

pādāravindaṁ hṛdayeṣu yeṣām

"After much hard labor, a person highly learned in Vedic literature certainly becomes very famous. However, one who is always hearing and chanting the glories of the lotus feet of Mukunda within his heart is certainly superior."

In the Nārāyaṇa-vyūha-stava it is said:

nāhaṁ brahmāpi bhūyāsaṁ

tvad-bhakti-rahito hare

tvayi bhaktas tu kīṭo 'pi

bhūyāsaṁ janma-janmasu

"I do not aspire to take birth as a Brahmā if that Brahmā is not a devotee of the Lord. I shall be satisfied simply to take birth as an insect if I am given a chance to remain in the house of a devotee,"

There are many similar verses in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, especially 3.25.38, 4.24.29, 4.31.22, 7.9.24, and 10.14.30.

It was Lord Śiva who said: "I do not know the truth about Kṛṣṇa, but a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa knows all the truth. Out of all the devotees of Lord Kṛṣṇa, Prahlāda is the greatest."

Above Prahlāda, the Pāṇḍavas are supposedly more advanced. Above the Pāṇḍavas are the members of the Yadu dynasty, who are even more advanced. In the Yadu dynasty, Uddhava is the furthest advanced, and above Uddhava are the damsels of Vraja-dhāma, the gopīs themselves.

In the Bṛhad-vāmana Purāṇa, Lord Brahmā tells Bhṛgu: ṣaṣṭi-varṣa-sahasrāṇi

mayā taptaṁ tapaḥ purā

nanda-gopa-vraja-strīṇāṁ pāda-reṇūpalabdhaye

"I underwent meditation and austerities for sixty thousand years just to understand the dust of the lotus feet of the gopīs. Still, I could not understand it. To say nothing of me, even Lord Śiva, Lord Śeṣa and the goddess of fortune Lakṣmī could not understand it."

In the Ādi Purāṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself says:

na tathā me priyatamo

brahmā rudraś ca pārthiva

na ca lakṣmīr na cātmā ca

yathā gopī-jano mama

"Lord Brahmā, Lord Śiva, the goddess of fortune and even My own self are not as dear to Me as the gopīs." Of all the gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the topmost. Rūpa Gosvāmī and Sanātana Gosvāmī are the most exalted servitors of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī and Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Those who adhere to their service are known as rūpānuga devotees. Caitanya-candrāmṛta (26) gives the following statement about Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī:

āstāṁ vairāgya-koṭir bhavatu śama-dama-kṣānti-maitry-ādi-koṭis

tattvānudhyāna-koṭir bhavatu bhavatu vā vaiṣṇavī bhakti-koṭiḥ

koṭy-aṁśo 'py asya na syāt tad api guṇa-gaṇo yaḥ svataḥ-siddha āste

śrīmac-caitanyacandra-priya-caraṇa-nakha-jyotir āmoda-bhājām

The qualities of one engaged in the service of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu-such as reputation, austerities, penances and knowledge-are not to be compared to the good qualities of others. Such is the perfection of a devotee always engaged in the service of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

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-:‘kṛṣṇa-bhakta baliyā yāṅhāra haya khyāti’
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-Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu then asked Rāmānanda Rāya, “Out of all glorious activities, which is the most glorious?”
+Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu then asked Rāmānanda Rāya, "Out of all glorious activities, which is the most glorious?" Rāmānanda Rāya replied, "That person who is reputed to be a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa enjoys the utmost fame and glory."
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-The greatest reputation a living being can have is to be a devotee of Kṛṣṇa and to act in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In the material world everyone is trying to be famous by accumulating a large bank balance or material opulence. There is a steady competition among karmīs attempting to advance in a wealthy society. The whole world is turning in accordance with that competitive mood. But this kind of name and fame is temporary, for it lasts only as long as the temporary material body exists. One may become famous as a brahma-jñānī, an impersonalist scholar, or one may become a materially opulent person. In either case, such reputations are inferior to the reputation of Kṛṣṇa’s devotee. In the Garuḍa Purāṇa it is said:
+The greatest reputation a living being can have is to be a devotee of Kṛṣṇa and to act in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In the material world everyone is trying to be famous by accumulating a large bank balance or material opulence. There is a steady competition among karmīs attempting to advance in a wealthy society. The whole world is turning in accordance with that competitive mood. But this kind of name and fame is temporary, for it lasts only as long as the temporary material body exists. One may become famous as a brahma-jñānī, an impersonalist scholar, or one may become a materially opulent person. In either case, such reputations are inferior to the reputation of Kṛṣṇa's devotee. In the Garuḍa Purāṇa it is said:
+:kalau bhāgavataṁ nāma
+:durlabhaṁ naiva labhyate
+brahma-rudra-padotkṛṣṭaṁ
+:guruṇā kathitaṁ mama
-:kalau bhāgavataṁ nāma durlabhaṁ naiva labhyate
+"In this Age of Kali, the fame of one who is known as a great devotee is very rare. However, such a position is superior to that of the great demigods like Brahmā and Mahādeva. This is the opinion of all spiritual masters."
-:brahma-rudra-padotkṛṣṭaṁ guruṇā kathitaṁ mama
-“In this Age of Kali, the fame of one who is known as a great devotee is very rare. However, such a position is superior to that of the great demigods like Brahmā and Mahādeva. This is the opinion of all spiritual masters.”
 In the Itihāsa-samuccaya, Nārada tells Puṇḍarīka:
+janmāntara-sahasreṣu
+:yasya syād buddhir īdṛśī
+:dāso 'haṁ vāsudevasya
+:sarvāḹ lokān samuddharet
+"After many, many births, when a person realizes that he is the eternal servant of Vāsudeva, he can deliver all the worlds."
+In the Ādi Purāṇa, in a conversation between Kṛṣṇa and Arjuna, it is said, bhaktānām anugacchanti muktayaḥ śrutibhiḥ saha: "The most exalted position of liberation is given by Vedic knowledge. Everyone follows in the footsteps of the devotee."
+Similarly, in the Bṛhan-nāradīya Purāṇa, it is further stated, adyāpi ca muni-śreṣṭhā brahmādyā api devatāḥ: "Until now, even the great demigods like Brahmā and Lord Śiva did not know the influence of a devotee."
+The Garuḍa Purāṇa similarly states:
-:janmāntara-sahasreṣu yasya syād buddhir īdṛśī
+:brāhmaṇānāṁ sahasrebhyaḥ
-:dāso ’haṁ vāsudevasya sarvāl lokān samuddharet
+:satra-yājī viśiṣyate
+:satra-yāji-sahasrebhyaḥ
+:sarva-vedānta-pāragaḥ
-“After many, many births, when a person realizes that he is the eternal servant of Vāsudeva, he can deliver all the worlds.”
+:sarva-vedānta-vit-koṭyā
-In the Adi Purāṇa, in a conversation between Kṛṣṇa and Arjuna, it is said, bhaktānām anugacchanti muktayaḥ śrutibhiḥ saha: “The most exalted position of liberation is given by Vedic knowledge. Everyone follows in the footsteps of the devotee.” Similarly, in the Bṛhan-nāradīya Purāṇa it is further stated, adyāpi ca muni-śreṣṭhā brahmādyā api devatāḥ: “Until now, even the great demigods like Brahmā and Lord Śiva did not know the influence of a devotee.” The Garuḍa Purāṇa similarly states:
+:viṣṇu-bhakto viśiṣyate
+:vaiṣṇavānāṁ sahasrebhya
+:ekānty eko viśiṣyate
-:brāhmaṇānāṁ sahasrebhyaḥ satra-yājī viśiṣyate
+"It is said that out of thousands of brāhmaṇas, one is qualified to perform sacrifices, and out of many thousands of such qualified brāhmaṇas expert in sacrificial offerings, one learned brāhmaṇa may have passed beyond all Vedic knowledge. He is considered the best among all these brāhmaṇas. And yet, out of thousands of such brāhmaṇas who have surpassed Vedic knowledge, one person may be a viṣṇu-bhakta, and he is most famous. Out of many thousands of such Vaiṣṇavas, one who is completely fixed in the service of Lord Kṛṣṇa is most famous. Indeed, a person who is completely devoted to the service of the Lord certainly returns home, back to Godhead."
-:satra-yājī-sahasrebhyaḥ sarva-vedānta-pāragaḥ
-:sarva-vedānta-vit-koṭyā viṣṇu-bhakto viśiṣyate
-:vaiṣṇavānāṁ sahasrebhya ekānty eko viśiṣyate
-“It is said that out of thousands of brāhmaṇas, one is qualified to perform sacrifices, and out of many thousands of such qualified brāhmaṇas expert in sacrificial offerings, one learned brāhmaṇa may have passed beyond all Vedic knowledge. He is considered the best among all these brāhmaṇas. And yet, out of thousands of such brāhmaṇas who have surpassed Vedic knowledge, one person may be a viṣṇu-bhakta, and he is most famous. Out of many thousands of such Vaiṣṇavas, one who is completely fixed in the service of Lord Kṛṣṇa is most famous. Indeed, a person who is completely devoted to the service of the Lord certainly returns home, back to Godhead.”
+There is also the following statement in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam ([[SB 3.13.4|3.13.4]]):
-There is also the following statement in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam ([[SB 3.13.4]]):
 :śrutasya puṁsāṁ sucira-śramasya
-:nanv añjasā sūribhir īḍito ’rthaḥ
+:nanv añjasā sūribhir īḍito 'rthaḥ
 :tat-tad-guṇānuśravaṇaṁ mukunda-
 :pādāravindaṁ hṛdayeṣu yeṣām
-“After much hard labor, a person highly learned in Vedic literature certainly becomes very famous. However, one who is always hearing and chanting the glories of the lotus feet of Mukunda within his heart is certainly superior.”
+"After much hard labor, a person highly learned in Vedic literature certainly becomes very famous. However, one who is always hearing and chanting the glories of the lotus feet of Mukunda within his heart is certainly superior."
 In the Nārāyaṇa-vyūha-stava it is said:
+:nāhaṁ brahmāpi bhūyāsaṁ
+:tvad-bhakti-rahito hare
+:tvayi bhaktas tu kīṭo 'pi
+:bhūyāsaṁ janma-janmasu
+"I do not aspire to take birth as a Brahmā if that Brahmā is not a devotee of the Lord. I shall be satisfied simply to take birth as an insect if I am given a chance to remain in the house of a devotee,"
-:nāhaṁ brahmāpi bhūyāsaṁ tvad-bhakti-rahito hare
-:tvayi bhaktas tu kīṭo ’pi bhūyāsaṁ janma-janmasu
-“I do not aspire to take birth as a Brahmā if that Brahmā is not a devotee of the Lord. I shall be satisfied simply to take birth as an insect if I am given a chance to remain in the house of a devotee.”
+There are many similar verses in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, especially [[SB 3.25.38|3.25.38]], [[SB 4.24.29|4.24.29]], [[SB 4.31.22|4.31.22]], [[SB 7.9.24|7.9.24]], and [[SB 10.14.30|10.14.30]].
-There are many similar verses in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, especially 3.25.38, 4.24.29, 4.31.22, 7.9.24, and 10.14.30.
+It was Lord Śiva who said: "I do not know the truth about Kṛṣṇa, but a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa knows all the truth. Out of all the devotees of Lord Kṛṣṇa, Prahlāda is the greatest."
-It was Lord Śiva who said, “I do not know the truth about Kṛṣṇa, but a devotee of Lord Kṛṣṇa knows all the truth. Out of all the devotees of Lord Kṛṣṇa, Prahlāda is the greatest.”
 Above Prahlāda, the Pāṇḍavas are supposedly more advanced. Above the Pāṇḍavas are the members of the Yadu dynasty, who are even more advanced. In the Yadu dynasty, Uddhava is the furthest advanced, and above Uddhava are the damsels of Vraja-dhāma, the gopīs themselves.
 In the Bṛhad-vāmana Purāṇa, Lord Brahmā tells Bhṛgu:
+ṣaṣṭi-varṣa-sahasrāṇi
+:mayā taptaṁ tapaḥ purā
+nanda-gopa-vraja-strīṇāṁ
+pāda-reṇūpalabdhaye
+"I underwent meditation and austerities for sixty thousand years just to understand the dust of the lotus feet of the gopīs. Still, I could not understand it. To say nothing of me, even Lord Śiva, Lord Śeṣa and the goddess of fortune Lakṣmī could not understand it."
-:ṣaṣṭi-varṣa-sahasrāṇi mayā taptaṁ tapaḥ purā
-:nanda-gopa-vraja-strīṇāṁ pāda-reṇūpalabdhaye
-“I underwent meditation and austerities for sixty thousand years just to understand the dust of the lotus feet of the gopīs. Still, I could not understand it. To say nothing of me, even Lord Śiva, Lord Śeṣa and the goddess of fortune, Lakṣmī, could not understand it.”
+In the Ādi Purāṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself says:
-In the Adi Purāṇa the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself says:
-:na tathā me priyatamo brahmā rudraś ca pārthiva
+:na tathā me priyatamo
-:na ca lakṣmīr na cātmā ca yathā gopī-jano mama
+:brahmā rudraś ca pārthiva
+:na ca lakṣmīr na cātmā ca
+:yathā gopī-jano mama
-“Lord Brahmā, Lord Śiva, the goddess of fortune and even My own self are not as dear to Me as the gopīs.” Of all the gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the topmost. Rūpa Gosvāmī and Sanātana Gosvāmī are the most exalted servitors of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī and Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Those who adhere to their service are known as rūpānuga devotees. The Caitanya-candrāmṛta (26) gives the following statement about Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī:
+"Lord Brahmā, Lord Śiva, the goddess of fortune and even My own self are not as dear to Me as the gopīs." Of all the gopīs, Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī is the topmost. Rūpa Gosvāmī and Sanātana Gosvāmī are the most exalted servitors of Śrīmatī Rādhārāṇī and Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Those who adhere to their service are known as rūpānuga devotees. Caitanya-candrāmṛta (26) gives the following statement about Śrīla Rūpa Gosvāmī:
 :āstāṁ vairāgya-koṭir bhavatu śama-dama-kṣānti-maitry-ādi-koṭis
 :tattvānudhyāna-koṭir bhavatu bhavatu vā vaiṣṇavī bhakti-koṭiḥ
-:koṭy-aṁśo ’py asya na syāt tad api guṇa-gaṇo yaḥ svataḥ-siddha āste
+:koṭy-aṁśo 'py asya na syāt tad api guṇa-gaṇo yaḥ svataḥ-siddha āste
 :śrīmac-caitanyacandra-priya-caraṇa-nakha-jyotir āmoda-bhājām
-The qualities of one engaged in the service of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu—such as reputation, austerities, penances and knowledge—are not to be compared to the good qualities of others. Such is the perfection of a devotee always engaged in the service of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
+The qualities of one engaged in the service of Lord Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu-such as reputation, austerities, penances and knowledge-are not to be compared to the good qualities of others. Such is the perfection of a devotee always engaged in the service of Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu.
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