760407 - Morning Walk part Hindi - Vrndavana

Morning Walks by Date, 1976

His Divine Grace
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

760407MW-VRNDAVAN - April 07, 1976 - 14.06 Minutes

(walk in Ranga Gardens)

Prabhupāda: . . . Asan hota hai? (Does Yoga happen?)

Indian (1): Han asan hota hai. (Yes yoga is being done.)

Prabhupāda: . . . Aur upar mein? (And on top?)

Indian (1): Upar mein rahane ka hai. Pehle ye kiraye pe rahate they . . . (The top is for residence. Earlier he used to stay for rent . . .)

Indian (2): Woh jo Mahārāj ji jo the, Mahārāj, wo rahte they pehle. (That Mahārāja who was there, he used to stay here previously.)

Prabhupada: Kaun maharaj? (Which Mahārāja?)

Indian (2): Ye kya naam tha unka? Jagad-guru jinne ashram bana liya. (What was his name? Jagad-guru or something. He has made his asrama now.)

Prabhupada: Jagad-guru.

Indian (1): Ye inne ashram jo bana liya tha na. (The one who made his asrama now.)

Indian (2): Śrī sampradāya ke Mahārāja ji . (He was from Śrī sampradāya, Mahārāja ji.)

Prabhupada: Okay.

Indian (1): Ji Haan. Woh kiraye pe rahte they, ab khali hai. Paani ka taklif hai nahi kiraya ka toh uth jaye. (Yes. He used to stay on rent. There is a problem of water supply, otherwise it will go on rent.)

Prabhupada: Kitna kiraya hai? (What is the rent?)

Indian (1): 30 rupai! Bhaiya maharaj ji. (Thirty rupees a month Mahārāja.)

Indian (2): 30 rupai. (Thirty rupees a month.) (laughs)

Prabhupada: Hun! Paani ka taklif hai? (Oh! There is problem of water supply?)

Indian (2): Paani door se lana pade, kuaan toh hai . . . paani nek dur se lana pade Mahārāja ji . . . kuan darbaje ke pas hai. (Water has to be brought from far, wells are there . . . but it has to be brought from some distance, Mahārāja ji. The well is near the gate. (of the temple).

Prabhupada: Toh hum log le sakte hain? (So, we can take it?) (on rent).

Indian (2): Jaroor Mahārāja . . . kyon nai? (Surely Mahārāja . . . why not?)

Prabhupada: Toh bandovast kar dijiye naa. (So kindly make arrangements for that.)

Indian (1): Accha. (Okay.)

Indian (2): Ho jayega. (It will be done.)

(break) . . . dozen carts.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It looks like it came from here. (break)

Prabhupāda: . . . cannot say Hare Kṛṣṇa. There is such competition.

Indian (1): Mahārāja ji keh rahe hain ki woh jo piche ka jo hai usko kiraye pe hame dilwa dijiye aur isko bagiche ko hum thik kar denge. (Mahārāja is saying that the room at the back be made available to rent for them. And we will make this garden alright.)

Indian (3): Manager se baat karte hain. (I will talk to the Manager.)

Prabhupada: Haan. (Okay.)

Indian (1): Bagiche ko thik karne ke lai Babulal se kahaiye. (Tell Babulal to make the garden alright.) . . . (indistinct)

Indian (3): Toh kiraye ko kaise kya? (So how about rent, what?)

Indian (1): Khali woh portion kiraye ko . . . (Only that portion for rent . . .)

Indian (3): Kaunsa? (Which one?)

Indian (1): Woh piche wala rehne ka, jisme woh rahte hain Raghunath Ācarya. (That backside residence, where Raghunath Ācarya stays.)

Indian (3): Raghunath Ācarya rehte hain. Accha. Toh aap kahe ke liye le rahe hain usko? (Raghunath Acharya lives there. Okay. So why are you taking it on rent?)

Prabhupada: Hamara pas aadmi bahut hai, udhar sankulan nahi hota hai. (We have so many people. There is so much congestion there.)

Indian (3): Accha. (Okay.)

Prabhupada: Kabhi-kabhi woh samajh lijiye Fogla Ashram mein, idhar-udhar sab rahtein hain. (Sometimes they stay here and there, Fogla asrama, here and there.)

Indian (3): Isliye? (That's why?)

Prabhupada: Haan. Isliye . . . (Yes, that's why . . .) I like this garden, very nice.

Indian (3): Han garden ka to hai. (Yeah that garden is nice.)

Indian men: . . . (indistinct) . . .Usme toh hamare aadmi rahenge. (In there, our people will also stay.)

Prabhupada: Nahi main khud bhi reh sakta hun. (No, I can also stay.)

Indian (3): Okay. Aaj manager se baat kar lenge hum. (Okay. We will talk to the manager today.)

Prabhupada: Kar lijiye. (Do that.). It is maintained very nicely. We can get flowers. Woh flower udhar Bhagvan Krishna-Balrama idhar Raṅganātha ji sabko lag sakte hain. (These flowers, there for Kṛṣṇa Balarama and here for Raṅganātha ji — they can be used for all of them.)

Indian: oh yes! Very beautiful flowers . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupada: Water supply is there? Kuan hai kya? Kuan hai idhar?) (Is there a well? Is there a well here?)

Indian man: Kuan hai. Motor lag rahi hai. Do kuan hain. (A well is there. We are placing a motor. There are two wells.) Udhar kheti hota hai. Ek kaccha bagicha hai or ek pakka hai, ye pakka basta hai, woh kucche ke naam se prasiddh hai useme kheti hoti hai. (Farming is done there. There is one raw garden and another is solid one. Here is a raw garden and there it is famous as "kaccha" garden, farming is done here.)

Indian: Do bagiche hai ek ye ek iske paas hai. (Two gardens are there, one is this and the other is near this.) . . . (indistinct) . . .

Prabhupāda: Paani toh idhar meetha hi hoga. (So the water must be sweet here.)

Indian: Han bahut badhiya, meetha . . . (Yes very nice, sweet.)

Indian: Meetha, bahut badiya toh nahi hai, pahle bahut badiya tha lekin ab kuch khali ho gaya hai. (It is not very sweet, earlier it was very good but now it has become a little empty.)

Indian man: 400 aadmi hai? Accha! (400 men? Okay!)

Prabhupada: Isiliye sankulan nahi hota hai. (That's why it is not enough.)

Indian man: Haan woh share toh karna hi padega na. (Yes, we will have to share it.)

Prabhupada: Aur zameen hum log le rahe hain makaan banana ke liye, to abhi hai nahi. Abhi bada gunjaish nahi hai. (Hmm. We are buying land to make homes but it is not there now. There is no scope now.)

Indian man: Accha. (Okay.)

Prabhupada: These people, they like Vṛndāvana.

Indian man: In logon ko Vṛndāvana bhaut pasand hai. (These people like Vṛndāvana a lot.)

Indian man: Accha. (Okay.)

Prabhupada: Bada pasand hai, toh isliye hum chahte hain ki sab . . .(Yes, they like it so much, that's why I want everybody. . .)

Indian man: Vṛndāvana toh dham hi aisa hai kisko pasand na ho. (Vṛndāvana is such a holy place, who will not like it?)

Prabhupada: Yes.

Indian man: Ye toh cheej hi aisi hai na. (It is such a place.)

Prabhuapda: Ramya kacid upasana. Vṛndāvana dhama.

Indian man: Toh aap to 11 taarik ko padhaar rahe hain na America. (You are starting for America on the 11th right.)

Prabhupada: Haan. (Yes.)

Indian man: Toh 4 din mein to nischai hona bada muskil hoga. (It will be difficult to finalize in 4 days.)

Prabhupada: Nahi. . . agar aap log nischay kar do toh humara aadmi toh rahega woh sab karega. (No . . . if you confirm our men will be staying here, they will do everything.)

Indian man: Apko telephone number kya hai? (What is our telephone number?)

Prabhupada: What is our telephone number?

Akṣayānanda: 179.

Indian man: 179.

Devotees: 8.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Vṛndāvana 178.

Indian man: 178. Kyunki aisa hai manager trustee ko likhaye, trust ke andar hai na. (Because it's like the manager will write to the trustees, it is under a trust.)

Prabhupada: Haan. Ek trustee toh humse bhaut pehchan hai. Woh Mr. S.K. Somani. (Yes. One trustee is well known to us, Mr. S.K. Somani.)

Indian man: Somani sahab jo Gajadhar ji they unka toh dehant toh ho hi gaya tha. (Mr.Somani, Gajadharji has left his body.)

Prabhupada: Haan. (Yes.)

Indian man: Woh toh hai nahi ab. Nahi unke bhai hai, toh bhai jo hai so Vansidhar ji hai aur ek unke Vasudev ji hai jo unke chacha ke ladka hai bhai. (He is not there now. No, his brother is there, Vansidhara ji is there and his uncle's son, Vasudev ji.)

Prabhupada: They are not trustees.

Indian man: Gajadhar sahu unka toh dehant ho gaya. (Gajadhar sahu, he left his body.)

Prabhupada: Unse hamara khoob parichay tha. (I knew him well.)

Indian man: Gajadhar ji toh bada hi acha aadmi tha, unne toh Rangji mandir ko bada bhaari . . . (Gajadhar ji was a very nice man, he supported Rangji temple heavily . . .) . . . (. . . indistinct . . .)

Prabhupāda: So they are not trustee . . . are agreeable. Whatever you think, as you like, we can agree . . . (break)

Indian man: Main baat kar lunga unse. (I will talk to them.) (break)

Indian man: Je hai donation bhakta log matlab lete hain. (This is a donation, meaning devotees will collect.)

Prabhupada: Monthly kuch donation hai. (Some monthly donation is there.)

Indian man: Monthly donation hai. Waise kuch building hai jo rented hai udhar, bahar. (Monthly donation is there. There are some buildings here that are rented , outside.)

Prabhupada: Aaj kal toh rent mein kuch milta hi nahi hai. (Nowadays you don't get anything on rent.)

Indian man: Ab ye hai purani hai . . . (Now this is an old one . . .)

Prabhupada: Purani hai. Mandir toh bhaut sundar hai. (Old one. The temple is very beautiful.)

Indian man: Aap navami ke din bata rahe ho matlab kya . . . yagya hoga us din. (You were telling us that on Navami day there will be some fire sacrifice.)

Prabhupada: Haan? (What?)

Indian man: Navami ke din kabhi dopahar mein . . . (On Navami day, sometime in the afternoon . . .)

Prabhupada: Navami toh kal hai. (Navami is tomorrow.)

Indian man: Parson hai matlab. (It's day after tomorrow.)

Prabhupada: Accha. (Okay.)

(break)

Indian man: To Chandi Path hoga na . . . toh abhi aap jaisa batyein apna . . .dopahar mein kabhi. . . (There will be Chandi Path [worship of Durgā Devi] . . . so if you can tell sometime in the afternoon . . .)

Tripurāri: (laughter) I can remember from Caitanya-caritāmṛta, one devotee of Lord Rāmacandra was always chanting the name of Rāma, but Lord Caitanya convinced him to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.

Prabhupāda: (laughs) There is competition like that. One will say: "Hare Rāma." Another will say: "No, Hare Kṛṣṇa."

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: He was very obstinate.

Hari-śauri: Or that man in Delhi.

Prabhupāda: Huh?

Hari-śauri: That man in Delhi thought we had something against Lord Rāmacandra.

Prabhupāda: (laughs) There are many versions like that. Somebody will say: "Your Rāmacandra may be very important person, but when Rādhārāṇī goes to Kṛṣṇa, Lord Rāmacandra becomes His (Her) guard with arrows." (laughter) When Rādhārāṇī goes to Kṛṣṇa, and Rāmacandra has to serve Rādhārāṇī with arrows and bows.

(pause)

Prabhupāda: This is gorur. Garuda.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: Hmm.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: What is that six-pointed star significance?

Prabhupāda: Cakra.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh.

Hari-śauri: What is the symbol on the right-hand side, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: I think śaṅkha.

Hari-śauri: Is that the conch, is it? (break)

Akṣayānanda: . . . thread from the Deity, the old sacred thread, and they tie it on their wrist. They tie it here.

Prabhupāda: Who?

Akṣayānanda: Some of the devotees have started to do that now.

Prabhupāda: Why?

Akṣayānanda: I don't know. It's just like wearing beads. The sacred thread from the Deity, after replacing, they take the old one and they wear it here.

Prabhupāda: Who has told them?

Akṣayānanda: I don't know.

Prabhupāda: Then why you . . .?

Akṣayānanda: Well, I told one boy to stop it, and because I couldn't quote any authority, he keeps wearing . . .

Prabhupāda: No, no, there is no author . . . where is his authority?

Akṣayānanda: Yes.

Prabhupāda: This nonsense should be stopped.

Akṣayānanda: Yes, I thought it was wrong. That's why I mentioned it. I wanted to make sure.

Prabhupāda: Stop this.

Akṣayānanda: Okay. Sure.

Hari-śauri: I think their idea is that because it's prasādam, it's from the Deity, that they're able to wear it like that.

Prabhupāda: That is another concoction. The sacred thread is not used like that, in our hand.

Akṣayānanda: I thought it was wrong. It seems like some kind of fashion or something, concocted fashion. (break)

Hari-śauri: . . . small black beads that the devotees are wearing from Rādhā-kuṇḍa. They have a string of beads made of clay from Rādhā-kuṇḍa. Are they . . .?

Prabhupāda: Rādhā-kuṇḍa clay is not bad.

Hari-śauri: So it's all right to wear them?

Prabhupāda: Not very constantly.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Sometimes I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that you're worried that one thing will lead to the next. Actually, all we have to do is follow your example.

Akṣayānanda: Yes, we don't have to add anything. What can we add?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: What is the use of it?

Akṣayānanda: What can we add?

Prabhupāda: There is a proverb in Bengali that the crows, they eat stool. But when the crow is very young, he eats more stool. (laughter) (break) . . . tendency always, how to become hippie as soon as there is little opportunity.

Akṣayānanda: Yes, it's something we have to guard against very carefully.

Prabhupāda: Don't allow them. Don't allow all these.

Akṣayānanda: Even in India people say like that, "Oh, you are hippies?"

Prabhupāda: As soon as you become hippie, immediately your all prestige will go.

Akṣayānanda: Finished, yes.

Prabhupāda: Very carefully.

Hari-śauri: The thing is, a lot of the devotees, they're not very much conscious that they're being watched by the . . . very carefully by the public. (break)

Prabhupāda: (bird is singing nearby) Bird of paradise? No.

Hari-śauri: No, the bird of paradise is different.

Prabhupāda: Different. (end)